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Don't see the point myself - would prefer Gueye get the game time.

Happy fooking Birthday you potty mouthed bastard!

(Please note everyone must swear in each post in the c*nting thread - it's what he'd want!!!)

Hope you had a good one mate, Lucozade and Hedex the order of the day??

Spot on, I've got a bastard behind the eye!

Thank you all!

Off to the game in a min (not match fit today!) COYB

Yeah he really seemed to be up for it...celebrated his goal big time and jumped in (maybe too much) when McAleny was fouled.

Never too much!!! I love him already and he's only played 20mins plus a reserve game - instant legend!

 

we've had loads of kids with potential, but if one kid makes it per season that is considered a great result.

i always think we expect too much from our young lads, maybe because we've had some real quality come through.

Agreed - luckily we seem to have a steady flow coming through. The Barkley whispers we shared in the past couple of years, the Rodwell whispers previous to that and the Rooney whispers even further back will fast become Lundstrom and Hope whispers... It beats Branch, Barlow and Chadwick any day but for every Rooney, Rodwell and Barkley there's at least 10 who don't make it at any decent level every season.

im pretty sure you probably do know Louis, you know most stuff but im not going to press you, i reckon its Danny Fox the more i think about it

 

Fox was labeled as a very promising left back from what i remember, then just vanished and ended up at Walsall? i think it was, who were in the second division and he was young at the time, i remember saying to a friend at the time i was surprised he did'nt go to a league one/championship club

Danny Fox and Anthony Gerarrd both went to Walsall - from there they both went on to better things. Expected more from of them but maybe they just weren't that good as neither have reached Prem level again (SPL doesn't count!)

I'm not saying I know who they are, just my own thoughts

 

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Andy Van Der Meyde. He's usually prime candidate, although I imagine he'd have been sacked instantly and the club would have just been looking for an excuse to get rid.

Right on cue! Posting as you mention him! - he did have problems with his daughter alongside other problems didn't he.

Peter Clarke?

Doubt it - he's forged a very good career in league football and as a captain - JPK seems a good shout. I reckon players like Nyarko, Fernandes, Kroldrup, VDM may be good shouts - all had an odd time at EFC.

 

I can't see Moyes paying money for him. He was good, but he wasn't all that, and as a striker I'd be surprised if he wants to end his days sprinting up and down the line like a young winger.

I think we'll definately be in for Donovan on-loan in Jan, also I genuinely think we'll be in for Rodellega if Wigan can't tie him down. He'll have 6months left come Jan and I think the prospect of staying in the Prem and NW would be a very good option - would imagine £4m tops.

If the Mail said Monday came the day before Tuesday I would check it on a calendar. A quote from the Mail says it all really.

 

(My ex's favourite paper, says enough for me.)

 

Lets see some more authenticated reports before we throw ourselves on our swords eh?

I'm sure the mail just read kipper - we've signed Moutinho about six times according to them... and I fell for it 5 times!

Where has this 31% figure come from?

 

There is a fair proportion of shares held outside of the board by share holders isn't there?

Made it up - that's what people do on here don't they!

31% are the minor shareholders - what doesn't show up as a named person when the percentages are broken down on official/unofficial sites.

 

Scholes and Giggs?

or Ferdinand and Heskey - or a combo of any of the 4!

Had a good trivia thrown at me the other day. 20 players have scored 100 premier league goals, 2 have done it without scoring a penalty, who are they?

Scholes and Giggs?

Briggs, can't remember his first name though.

Matthew Briggs - he looks decent too!

appraently you can buy the odd share that becomes available for £1200 - £1500, the price drops for bulk lots.

On that basis it would cost £16m to buy the remaining 31% of the club.

Here's the maths...

8754 = 25% so x4 35016 = 100%

Club shares value = £52,524,000 on the basis of each share worth £1500

so x0.31 £16,282,440 = 31%

Obviously it's not that simple!!!

Jags and Distin doesn't seem to work (in terms of clean sheets) although both being excellent defenders. I think Distin has looked the better of the 2 for a while now but I also remember more costly errors (goal conceeded) have come from Distin switching off rather than Jagielka's poor distribution/dilly-dallying. I actually feel safer with Jags although in saying that Heitinga and Distin did seem to compliment each other - an odd dillema.

Woods 19%, Earl 23%, Carter 2% add Kenwrights 25% makes 69% by my calculations!

Why can't someone buy the 31% unaccounted for and work from inside?

I need someone with business knowledge to explain this to me!

 

The same that Mr Kenwright should expect for his - zilch. If he loves the club - selling it to break even would make the shares go for an extremely generous figure - then he could stipulate many things in the contract (stadium development, expected transfer budget, period of ownership etc)

 

Pretty much like Sir Jack Hayward - what a man he is. True legend.

Hayward is a lot older than Kenwright and was when he let go of Wolves, plus he's a lot lot richer - totally different situations. You can't deny that Hayward is a legend though, been lucky enough to meet him a few times when I was a kid and last year at a Wolves youth players do.

Sorry but it very much is, BK never had the money to buy the club in the first place, he mortgaged his own house and borrowed left,right and centre to buy his shares due to him having no resources of his own, so there is argument as to whether he should have got involved in the first place, why did he get invovled knowing it needed money to run yet he did'nt have any

 

to me it stinks of the kid with his prize toy that he had to have but now wont let go of

Would you have prefered Johnson stay in control?

Imagine if you were blessed to have the money where you're in a position to take-over the club you love and save us from where we were under Johnson's regime! Sorry but you haven't got a valid argument there. Kenwright took over the club and did an excellent job. It's got to the stage though where football has changed and become more and more a money mans game. It is time for BK to move on and he knows that so we will see what happens... I could say "watch this space!"

thats where i differ. i dont think he is a £15m player now, but his potential worth to us makes it not enough. if you get what i mean.

i dont doubt he will be worth twice that in years to come.

Teams buy potential though so he's worth a lot more than £15m!

 

have a look for yourself http://www.evertonfc...ec?page=lounges

our lounges are great, the food is great, the service is exceptional, ive been lucky enough with work and with family/company friends to experience them.

but they dont sell. just look at the first 20 or so rows in the middle of the main stand on a match day, see how many empty seats there are.

you can use the lounges for parties and weddings, and they do well at christmas time for parties and summer for weddings, but inbetween there isnt much interest.

£45,000 a season, wow! - okay you're right in that they may not all sell but probably as they are over priced as we have so few! Most clubs have 50 odd. I stand by this is a stream where we are missing out and it would make a massive difference if we could exploit this avenue. Maybe the Park End corporate development would help. It's obviously something the club have identified too.

but they arent sold out mate. you can go down to goodison today and buy one for this season, they are not sold.

I would imagine they would though if they were top notch facilities.

I get what you mean and no I wouldn't sell either and nor would anyone to do with EFC in their right mind, so he's therefore worth a lot more than £15m especially in this current market.

we dont even sell out our current corp seats. if we cant sell 8 boxes, there is no point having 30. even our lounges havent been filled for years. take a look in the exec box at the wigan game.

we cant rely on corp sales to fix anything.

I'd imaging the boxes are bought by companies/sponsors for the season - so it makes no difference if people are in them, they're still paid for.

It's not just match day where coporate facilities make money. If you look into what happens at other clubs on non-match days you will see how important modern and plentiful coporate facilities are.

lets not kid ourselves that he is the only up and coming midfielder in england.

he will be under enough pressure as it is.

Would you sell him for £15m then?