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Problem is, how long can we continue to sell off assets to pay off the interest we owe on the loans we took out to pay for the losses we made each year. Particularly when we still appear to be making a loss. Can we afford for Bill to be rejecting investors like Lerner simply because Randy is not as big a fan as Bill is?

Nothing to do with a future owner being a fan.

Our problem lies with GP not making enough money through coporate revenues (in my opinion). The current owners are trying to address this with the development behind Park End which I pressume is still going ahead eventually? Do we know Lerner was going to buy us a new stadium? Is that what Bill's holding out for - someone who will promise us that?

For what it's worth, my opinion is BK deserved his applause yesterday. He has done a lot for this club and deserves his place in our clubs history. Where would we be if he hadn't done the work he did to take the ownership away from Peter Johnson? That's why I clapped over the boo's - if there had been no boo's I doubt I would have done anything.

I want a new owner ASAP - a owner who can take us forward, help propel us to the next level... but so does Bill! It's a catch 22 situation, I think Bill wants to sell to the perfect owner because he's a fan and maybe he's being too cautious with regard to a Lerner type buyer, or Bill wants to sell to someone who will keep him as part of the team (which may not neccessarily be such a bad thing).

Regardless of who we get to sell us Kenwright will have the final say. He doesn't deserve some of the abuse he's getting, he and Moyes have helped raise the expectations of the fans in their time here. I think Bill has held on too long and missed some excellent opportunities (Kings Dock being the main one) but I still think he wants the best for the club in the long run and will do what he can while he is in charge.

 

rooney was an england regular and inflation has gone up massively since then.

henderson had been playing week in week out in the premier league for over a year.

they were both at a lower league club, so they had the same prem experience that ross has.

He'll be a regular in and around the team by the time any team can bid again.

People seem to hang on what this chap says...

http://www.thtandlcab-football.com/ThankGodItsOver.html

An interesting list of players - wonder if Holtby would be a Jan option?

 

 

Me too, and it saddened me tbh.

The booing or applauding?

 

Absolutely no chance! The booing was definitely from a very small minority and was drowned out instantly by the applause

That's the impression I got in Lower Gwladys.

could say barkley is injury prone too? not his leg break obviously, but his various injuries before that.

hes been known amongst everton fans for a couple of years now, so i wouldnt be surprised if he has been known by other clubs scouts and managers for longer than that.

if you want to compare the sale, arteta isnt the comparisson. walcott and oxlade-chamberlan are a bit closer for that.

 

personally, i dont think we can afford to sell him yet, if the long term plan is to ship him out, wait two years or so and let the hype build, a few more u21 caps, then sell.

but id be gutted by then.

Disagree, they were bought from a lower division. Maybe Henderson is a comparisson but the most obvious one must be Rooney.

 

Distin - Was he at fault for the second equaliser too? I couldn't really tell, but if he was that would spoil what had been a faultless performance from him. I usually worry whenever the ball goes near him tbh but I can't recall him making me nervous once. Where Jags lost out aerially, Distin was dominant. And his turn of pace to shut out Agbonlahor and Bent when you'd think they'd race away on goal was exceptional.

 

In my eyes no doubt, he switched off and got the wrong side of Agbangawhore.

Part of the blame for 1 point over 3 must be put on the ref though. Shocking decision at 1-0 when baines was tripped in the box directly in front of him. But we should know by now that we can't really on ref's... especially a ref with a teenage boys haircut!!!

the split isnt exactly overwhelming. Theres a tiny collection who want a change and have jumped on the latest band wagon without knowing what its all about. Ive no idea how this was supposed to be for the good of the club.

Basically it was a publicity stunt.

The only good was it helped improve the atmosphere at GP yesterday - but it should be like that every game not just because a couple of thousand (if that) 'real fans' went down the boozer earlier and got tanked up for a protest. Special mention must go to the Lower Gwladys standing/singing area - incredible!!!

Is it because that's what our business model is based on until we have owners where such decisions are not necessary?

Our business model is something like:

- invest primarily in our current assets e.g. securing our best players on long term deals/ developing youth - makes sense.

- do not spend beyond our means - could kill club (see Pompy/Leeds).

- sell players only at the right price or those who are seeking alternative employment - every player has his price even Ronaldo, Torres, Fabregas.

- buy players within budget who fit into the wage structure. If the finances aren't there use the much safer loan market.

We don't sell our best players cheaply. Arteta went for £10m because he wanted the opportunity to play C.L football - we gambled last summer giving him a £75k per week packet and he didn't justify that - maybe if he had we could have matched his ambitions and that contract would have been justified.

We didn't sell Jags because 1. a big enough offer didn't come in and 2. he didn't want to leave.

Our business model will be very similar with any owner but we will hopefully have more room for manouvere when acquiring assets.

Because thats what was reportedly offered, and he's been shite for three seasons now. The worse regular cb `at the club since Stubbs, and the fact he's English is the only reason he's still at the club. He doesn't provide help for his team mates, he is not an Everton style of player. Maybe if he was dropped it would help up his effort and performance, I don't know, but Moyed needs to sort it out.

Wow! What a tool! (not Jagielka or Stubbs by the way!)

Say a same for a lot of the villa players that we had been linked with in the past. Ireland, Delph and Hutton.

True.

coleman for me, to come back after five weeks and just fall back in like normal. he was great today, we could have great counter attacking with him and drenthe (i still hope donovan comes back too)

I really think he will for 3 months anyway.

Exactly the face I pulled after seeing that!

Very good performance today - but like we do against Villa every season at GP we didn't take our chances and were made to pay. We looked a lot, lot better than them today.

N'Zogbia - would have loved him during the summer but on todays performance and what I've seen of him this season... meh!

Scunthorpe 1-1 Sheff Utd

 

Scunthorpe had 10 men for most of the game and Shane was awarded MOM.

Excellent news - well done to the lad!

Felli looked so comfortable - class. Also Osman, Cahill, Baines and Coleman had excellent games.

The thought of Coleman/Drenthe as our wingers makes my balls tingle!

 

 

I dont know about the rest of the ground but in the Park End was when the camera went on BK a few of the Bufoon Union booed him so everybody else applauded him.

 

It seemed pretty clear thathe still has the backing of the vast majority of the match going Evertonians.

 

I was listening to Radio City on the way to the game and they interviewed one of the spokesmen for the BU and he didnt come accross too well to be honest. He wannted BK out but didnt seem to know what he wanted instead. Ian Snodin and Ian St John started to press him and all he could come up with was that he wanted an autonomous board put in place to sell the club. But then he agreed that BK would sell if an offer came in and he also agreed that just about everybody in the world already knows the club is for sale but there just isnt anybody out there who are likely to want to buty the club.

 

So whats the point of the protest?

Exactly! BK and BU seem to want the same thing for EFC(apart from the obvious not wanting each other!)

I have no evidence but whispers upstairs in the Winslow were that people were stood abusing BK (who was with his wife) as he arrived at the game today - what knobs if that is true. They talk about true fans... well a true fan doesn't drag the clubs name through shit like this - scum!

I for one clapped BK when he appeared on the screen - he's a true blue. I want him to sell the club, but so does he.

Obviously in Bill's eyes the right buyer hasn't come along... the Lerner rumours seem to stack up but another rumour round here (I'm local to Villa) is Ellis walked out on Lerner in their meeting as he's a complete tit and that deal almost failed because of this. But in the end someone convinced Ellis and he was past ready to sell anyway with his age, etc.

Villa losing O'Neill suggests Lerner may not be as good a chairman as many make out, O'Neill was to villa what Moyes is to us. Yeah they spent a bit of money but look at them now... they sold their best 2 players this summer and have done for they past few summers.

Chelsea and Man.City = false economy. Not many other takeovers have been very successful.

Yahtzee

Great game - not played it in years! Really want to play now but can't find any bastard dice!!!

Just for comedy value...

http://www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/everton-set-for-new-year-spending-spree-10567/

Last time there was a war chest at Goodison must have been WW2.

I don't understand why we keep loaning him?

Think his parents have moved back over and with him being young I think he wanted to be back in England. Being on-loan he's always got the option to go back there in the summer whilst in the meantime training with one of the best acadamies in the world with as good facilities as any. Win, win for Dier - no risk for EFC/Sporting.

Vic could be out for us - injured on int duty... meh!

Darren Bent should be injured for them with him not playing for England and pulling out of Tuesday... fingers crossed!!!

Klinsman must be one

Brehme scored in the final he played in and it was 1-0 don't think he's old enough to have been in any before Italia 90' - my first world cup memories!

Off topic but we need something to go with the pissing monkey! It's almost compatable with the pint - comes out black though!

this.

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Why would you hope a team like Barcelona win? Are you from Barcelona? For me, they're just another cash rich club who buy success. I'd rather they got beat 8-0 every match if I'm honest.

Yes cash rich, but you've got to admire how many players they've actually brought on themselves. Barca play football how it should be played - they should be watched and enjoyed.