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FT - The ref blows for the draw - it is a fair result as Hull dominated the first period and Everton the second. thanks for your views. Stay with us for reaction. Images we should never have seen, Everton, well done great comeback, but on paper this is a really poor result. Mocking Liverpool for thier draw against Stoke, well. I think we need to look at ourselves before calling others. Saha. Excellent.

Vaughan is on. Six minutes to find six goals Myhill having a nightmare in the last few minutes.

Myhill spills a cross from Arteta from the left and Saha gets onto the ball and shoots from a tight angle on the right but it goes into the side netting. Agreed.

Yes. According to SS it's all Everton @dark - Shut up

From reading SS it seems like Everton are giving everything which is good to see. Can really feel the atmousphere from just reading. COYB! Bloody Hell he deserves it. Saha is god

Unfortunatly, the forum has no sarcastic smilies. Goal Analysis from SS.

COYB!! Oh and BTW, Moyes is God Saha is indeed looking lively, I feel that a point isn't good enough, even though I would welcome it and Timmy is our rock at the moment. Getting us back into the game against Stoke and now Hull. Without him who knows. 3 points? Tottenham & Everton stuck at the bottom. TY Tim

The Toffees are becoming dangerous! Too little too late?

62 Arteta sends a fantastic ball from the right through the Hull defence and Saha runs onto it and shoots but Myhill saves and Hull clear. Best Everton chance of the half. C'mon, lets have a good last 30 minutes for christ's sake. Leighton is fantastic at LB & LM. Bloody hell, Castillo and Baines both off at the same time? Seriously Moyes needs to get his act together, holding out and titting with his contract. Well after this performance he should sign it while he still can.

Wigan Athletic - 145 Games, 4 Goals Everton - 24 Games, 0 Goals. Yes. He's the guy we all expected him to be.

We have set the standard now Romey. Everton are now expected to get into Europe. If we don't then like you said it's going to be hard to keep the likes of Yakubu, Arteta, Fellini, Cahill when thier contract runs out. Mikel, stay at Everton, lose to Hull and finish 15th or head over the sunny Spain with Athletico Madrid and have the best footballing years of your life. Hmm, I wonder which one he'd choose. Moyes = McLaren ATM.

I would be happy with 15th + ATM. I mean for god's sake, from 100% succes in Europe. Beating AZ after 32 unbeaten games and then 2-0 to Hull! Well, whats gone wrong? What's changed? -Transfer Dilemma in the Summer. -Moyes titting about with his contract -Carsley & Johnson leave -Problems with the board and less funding due to stadium cock-up. -First game ends in defeat, with Howard conceading 3. These are some of the problems we had this summer. Surely they arn't the reason for the poor start to the season, can it?

Kiss goodbye to Europe indeed. Am I the only one that is actually fearing for the worst? If we play like this all season and only win against the lower teams (losing to one) then were looking at the Bottom 3. Christ, I can't wait for the derby next week.

Arteta take the corner and McShane misses the ball which goes through to Yakubu but Myhill dives in to take the ball off the striker's foot. It is very brave. THEN Myhill is up on his feet after receiving treatment. Goalkeeper injury please Edit: King scores for Hull from a corner. The Tigers take on the left and there is a mix up in the Everton defence. Neville heads back to Howard and he punches the ball into his own goal, with King on the line to help it in.

Streams FTL. I'm happy enough watching SkySports.com ATM, I'm unsure if I even want to watch Everton out there giving 10% against Hull. For me I would settle for a 2-1 win but before kick-off I was hoping for somewhere around 3-0, 4-0. Yakubu to score to make it level before Fellini putting us ahead with Saha coming off the bench late on to seal the game on his début. Then I suppose I would be happy. COYB

Fellini is no defender ATM, and that worries me at the price we paid for his quality. Didn't you know, Howard got sick of playing for us and moved to Hull. SkySports changed it It's almost laughable.

Little consolation is that Hull are on a slight good run beating Newcastle last week in the Premier League. It's always hard to play the lower teams. The part that worries me is that the two games we have won have been against Stoke City and West Bromwitch Albion. ''Hull win another corner from Yobo, this time on the left. Mearney takes and Turner out jumps Fellaini at the far post to head in. Great goal'' Dosen't sound too good does it? Poor defending leaking from the Standard Liege game, we need to act fast. If Saha is fit get him on alongside Yakubu and lets show this Championship side who's been in the top league for 100 years.

Yeah I heard about that Lostprophets DJ Thing. Sounds great but I doubt I'll get the time to go. So was/are you a fan of Lostprophets Everton Lad? My fave. band ATM went to see them down in Birmigham at the Carling Acadamy, great day! OT: Country roads, take me home To the place I belong West virginia, mountain momma Take me home, country roads <3

7-5 to USA now. Looking better for Europe, hope we can pull ahead. @Romey - Yeah sorry for that, when I realised and went to edit my keyboard woulden't work, so well, I coulden't

FIFA 09 News for those that play it. We're running up the field, heading into the offensive zone of Chelsea. There's not a defender within 15 yards of us. Ahead, an Arsenal striker is making a deep cut toward the Chelsea goalkeeper and, to his left, renowned striker Emmanuel Adebayor is positioning himself to try to make something happen. Suddenly, our teammate behind us sends the ball our way, which we deftly receive at full gallop. Two Blues defenders are closing in on our striker, but we manage to sneak in a perfectly timed through pass, which he fields, passes to Adebayor, who manages to get the goalkeeper out of position and... GOOOOAL! Now, technically, our crucial through pass doesn't count as an assist on the scorecard, but it surely felt good to us, especially as an introduction to the new 10-versus-10 online play that looks to be one of the brightest features in EA Sports' upcoming FIFA 09. During a recent trip up to EA Canada we got the first look at 10-versus-10 play, playing a match with 19 developers and producers behind FIFA 09, and we can safely report that the new mode puts an entirely new spin on the virtual sport. t’s never an easy task to improve upon an already strong series (especially one that is released annually), but FIFA 09 manages to do just that. FIFA 09 features the most realistic player physics to ever grace the series, while the ability to augment your team’s tactics provides greater customization. Player physics are a major focus in this year's game. FIFA 09 will, for the first time in the series, have players jostling for position and headers. During collisions and jostles, each player's size and physical attributes will dictate how the animation plays out. Generally, larger players will be able to hold off smaller defenders, while smaller players will be able to use their speed to avoid contact. The improvement in player physics translates to the goalkeepers as well. Long-standing issues with inaccurate goalkeeper reactions (goalies making incredibly hard stops at times while at other times allowing the easiest of goals) have been addressed in FIFA 09. Goalkeepers seem to have more realistic reaction times, and their animations play out more smoothly.

Lostprophets - Liberation Transmission -Everyday Combat -A New Transmission -Rooftops -Hypocrisy -Can't Stop Gotta Date With Hate -Can't Catch Tomorrow, Good Shoes Won't Save You This Time -Everybody's Screaming -Broken Hearts And Torn Up Letters (And The Story Of A Lonely Girl) -4:AM Forever -Heaven For The Weather, Hell For The Company -For All These Times Son, For All These Times -Always All Ways What an album.

Castillo 2-2 The ball is pumped into the box. Fortunatly for Standard Liege is is cleared and is bobbling to the feet of Sagundo Castillo. The new-boy rockets home and puts Everton back into buisness. What a goal. Surely we can build on this. I mean c'mon, we need something from somewhere. Just think if it hadn't of been for the Howard-Yobo error we would be leading now. ):

Yobo OG. 2-1

1-0 Standard Liege. Everton are losing after just 9 minutes. That's just typical Everton is it not?

Train set and match spied under the blind Shiny and contoured the railway winds And I've heard the sound from my cousin's bed The hiss of the train at the railway head Always the summers are slipping away A 60 ton angel falls to the earth A pile of old metal, a radiant blur Scars in the country, the summer and her Always the summers are slipping away Find me a way for making it stay When I hear the engine pass I'm kissing you wide The hissing subsides I'm in love When the evening reaches here You're tying me up I'm dying of love It's OK Trains - Porcupine Tree