Shukes

He put his boot on his chest as he stepped over and then clearly tried to take the weight off and his foot slides sideways due to this. Nothing in it as far as football is concerned, media is another matter though.

Barkley isn't playing hard ball... he hasn't been offered a contract yet.

It's not dead just yet is it. A strong finish and the right targets and we could keep this team together.

Well deserved and great for us.

I'm sure Rom publicly wished Seamus the best in his interviews while on international duty. Can't remember which one, but I'm sure he did.

Looks a balanced team. What has happened to Lookman?

Was praying he would be back for Utd. Will be interesting to see the line up without him.

Got a feeling Koeman will be a genius again tomorrow and Rom will get a brace.

I can see the contradictions with 90% of the posts on here, including my own. I'm just more bothered about my own opinions and what I think than anyone else's. You got to admit Pad that there are a few on here who very rarely say Anything was Roms fault. But still Haf is the main subject. I don't think Bailey, for example, is a Chelsea fan. I think he is one of the better posters on here and has an excellent knowledge of the game. But did anyone ask him how he made his judgement on Drogba? They both came back at each other with snippets and opinions of others. It's a good debate. Let's just sell him and all get back to being Everton fans again.

Pad I think Haf was countering the argument against him, so I didn't conveniently ignore it mate. My point is that it is a Lukaku thread which should be used to discuss Lukaku. It's getting more and more last thread to discuss Hafs views on Lukaku.... which I suppose could be argued is about Lukaku haha. My view on Lukaku is that he is possibly our best player and one we should fifth tooth and nail to keep. But against Liverpool he wasn't just poor, he didn't seem arsed. Barkley tried but failed, Robles tried but failed. Lukaku didn't try and still failed. People should get back to discussing Lukaku and not what Haf thinks of Lukaku. Is he really that important that we need to prove him wrong? Can't we just accept that Haf doesn't rate him ?

Gotta meet you one day Haf. Gotta meet the man behind the legend haha. You have a whole thread dedicated to trying to bring you down. Drogba is such a great example. Haf says he never saw him have a lazy game and he is criticised as he couldn't have watched him every game. But others say he was lazy.... and.... nothing haha! About time this thread was taken down, not locked, taken down. It's not about Lukaku anymore. I'm getting really jealous that Haf gets so much attention.... is he an ex Everton player or something? Bloody hell I sound like a Haf fanboy or something haha!

Man U 1-3 Everton Barkley.

And at the same time Liverpool have moved past the derby mentality. Their players don't look at us as anything other than another step.

Criticised him before Christmas as we looked very poor even after spending cash in the summer. We lost yesterday but have been on a great run. Chelsea also lost! Koeman will be judged on how he comes back from this result, not this solitary result. It hurts, but it's a blip in a very good run.

But he did run is ragged yesterday. He was two levels above any player we had.

Are we talking about Lukaku in this thread again? Curse you all!

Everton fans are doing it over Mane on FB and other social media. Disgraceful.

There were a few occasions yesterday when he turned out of a crowded box and came away with the ball. He did ok. He definitely shows signs of potential. Has pace. Can take a player on, as demonstrated yesterday. He can also finish. The manager can see all of this and with the effort he puts in, has decided he is a more justifiable player than Mirralas. That said, a derby is not the right place to breed potential and Mirralas would have brought experience.

Three points for Liverpool stadium!

Managers don't seem to rate Mirralas for some reason.

Maybe dived?

Minerals? This isn't a boxing match. Ross isn't that type of player at all... in any way....whatsoever. He was poor today. Tried hard but got everything wrong.

Voted against the grain and went for Baines. Mature performance without doing anything spectacular. Only player I can think of that played a football match instead of playing Liverpool. Anyone that's played football will know exactly what I mean.

Why are you debating his? Lukaku was shit. It wasn't that he didn't get service. You can still play well without service, it's what top forwards do. Rom was shit today, real shit. DCL had no service, but managed to cause trouble. When he plays well... give him credit. When he is shit..... let him know.

Agree. DCL looks the real deal, but is still learning. Today was set up for Mirralas.