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And the correlation is between Rom. World class Rom, who is can handedly wins games. Where are Everton? He scored for Belgium did he....and I take it they won?

Didn't say I believe in him. Just that I don't give the players a free ticket like most the rest if our fans. Having played the game for 25+ years I understand that I manager can only be part of what happens on the pitch. I found that I myself had a massive influence on how we played and the results that we got. So did the rest of my team. We had superstars, but they would be on the bench if they thought they were too good for us. Our team was a team from day one, if you weren't prepared to be part of that team then you knew where the door was. We won,lost and fought together as a team.

Bloody hell at least someone sees it to.

All about context. You did actually say he was better than us. But I see now you meant better than our position, which is fine. I just want him to realise he is a massive part of a team sitting in the bottom half of the table. He is around about 9% of the reason for that for me. Same as all other players. The manager has a big part to play for me to. But not enough to excuse the team. He wants to play the game....then play it. Talk like your a Cl player ...then you need to play like it to. It's not like he has dragged us up the table is it...were twenty haha. Our whole team should put up and shut up. Start earning your wage. Oh and stay for another Season Rom.

How good is his brother by the way?

And bad example by the way...you chose two players in Tim and Stones that receive just as much criticism as Rom.

No one's blaming him for it all...were just not giving him a free ticket because he's too good for us either. I want him to stay. But Ffs a little respect never hurt anyone. Remember when we beat Man U, Aresnal and Barca for his signature... Ye me neither. Yet we owe him so much for choosing us over West Brom. Use us as a stepping stone by all means, but show some humility while your here.

Too good for us along with Lukaku and Barkley. We should sell them all and buy three mid table players.....it's not fair on them to have to play for us.

Agree, he will be a big talent. Couple of moments tonight but overall he has looked very good. 3 Everton players on the pitch for England now.

Two perfect balls. The second should have been am assist too. Looks easy when he plays like that.

That's all we needed. Such a confidence player our Stones, and that's gonna hurt him.

Fitting that Stones starts tonight...Cruyffs love child I'm sure.

Sorry just a bit wound up over the whole player versus club thing. I was responding to the Lukaku is better than Everton comment. I do believe that all players and club officials should stand together though, they should win, lose, draw together. A goal scored is important but so is not conceding. He didn't get us through the semi single handedly, it was a team effort. Same as his goals haven't been enough to get us into the champions league....is that his fault? No of course not it's the whole teams. Is a clean sheet down to Lukaku? Yes...it is. Again it's a team thing.

Because I am a fan and a player. I captained my side and took responsibility for my team. I came on as sub and still shared that responsibility....that's what the word Team stands for! Funnily enough, I now work as a production leader and take responsibility for my job. As a professional football player that gets paid a fortune for his job I would expect them to have some loyalty to that club. Guess we're just cut from a different cloth.

Can't wait to see him in the team again if I'm honest. So exciting to watch. He will mature and then he will be scary.

I'm just shocked there aren't loads like me. Absolutely shocked. This is an Everton Forum not a Lukaku forum...or it Should be. I want him to stay, I want him to shut up and stand with his teammates. I want him to take an equal part of responsibility for our position. I want to see him fight for us! But if he wants to go, then let him. We are much more important as a club to me. I am a football fan, an Everton fan, not a neutral. We will love on the same as we always do, same as we always have. Player better than a club? Sad to hear fans support that.

You joking? Don't agree with a lot of the Lukaku criticism but saying he is better than Everton is ridiculous. No player has even been or ever will be better than thier club. We have been around for longer than his grandparents and will be here long after his grandkids have gone. We have won more trophy than he will ever win. We have a history that is rich and great. We have more fans than Lukaku. We are Everton.

Hornes was stunning. He hit it earlier than anyone expected and it just seemed to fly in.

Why do that? Just why? You have me with goosebumps again. I'm thinking were gonna smash utd after watching those. Full of optimism now, you are gonna pay if I am brought back to earth again.

Tim made him leave.

Ye but he only left because of Martinez.

Ahh I remember the rumours but didn't realise we actually had offers.

Can you sell players if no one wants to buy them?

I would love to see a much changed team. Give them a real kick up the arse.

Lennon was one of the better performers against Arsenal. Dropping him would be a very negative statement to the team.