Shukes

Silly silly boy.

That's better just hit the ball.

Unlucky Coleman. Good effort there. Better football.

I'm just mystified. Will be typical that we perform now and the manager will think that Kone made all the difference haha.

Had to redirect the pigeon for you. It went back and forth a few times looking really pretty without really getting anywhere. Phenomenal take off though.

True Paul. My Initial point was aimed at the factual stats that had been put up. I didn't follow the majority though trust me. I just thought more about it thats all. My initial comment was based on the woodwork stat, but I agree that's not down to luck, that's bad targeting. The more I think about it the more I worry that someone up there just doesn't like us. Some of the deflections that are heading for a throw in and hit an ass, then loop up and in. But then again this happens to every team. I stand by my point that for the majority of the season we have looked good and that we have lost or drawn when our chances and play deserved a win. But hey, this is football, you don't get what you feel you deserved all the time.

Still good to have two of our own on the short list. Well done boys.

No one's focusing on it Haf, just not if owing it either. It has made or broke careers. For the record I did put good/bad I also referred to our penalty against Man City. Chalk hit it on the head, luck can take charge if you let it. The trick is not to get into the situation where it can take charge.

Chalk...you are correct. That's our problem, we are letting g these things decide our matches instead of taking control ourselves.

Remember that luck doesn't exist. It's a term used for out of the ordinary circumstances. For example a shot going out for a corner that hits your player and goes in, a goal that should have been called offside, a penalty that was outside the box. These are all examples of bad/good luck. A shot that is on target that a defender deflects while trying to block isn't luck. There has been a degree of good/bad luck all season. Is it the managers fault...it could well be the law of attraction. While your lucks down, you get kicked. Doesn't matter what the reason is. Hitting the woodwork isn't unlucky, it was a miss! Is McCarthy unlucky for having such a torrid time worh injuries? Technically not. It must be down to the way he landed,twisted,got hit, diet etc etc. But I would still class him as unlucky, same with Besic.

Wouldn't like a stadium with a track. Atmosphere would be rubbish.

Shukes.... On his day Aiden can be a really excellent player. His speed of thought reminds me of a slug, he has a large box of tricks....just can't find the key, we will have to he careful of him as we may trip over him. Sadly his day has gone, he is even worse now.

.gonna try that tonight.

The last few weeks have been dire and I think that has skewed the opinion of a lot of fans. We need something to lift our spirits again...we are owed that.

I do yes. I don't think it's an excuse though. I blame the team and the manager. But I don't think we have been awful either. I think for most of the season we have been really good to watch. I think there have been so many matches that we genuinely deserved to win but didn't for whatever reason...be that bad management, lack of confidence or mistakes.

Haha I have two toddlers at home and admittedly my hair has thinned a bit and turned more grey.....but if I got paid 1m a year I think I could handle it better

Guys don't read into it too much. He is a manager and is programmed not to promote a blame culture, it's basics. To come out and put the blame on an individual in public would be morale destroying. Interviewers are clever and ask questions they know will manipulate our thought process. That's all that has happened here. Blame him for wrong tactics, bad substitutions, poor man management and his over zealous optimism, but the way he defends his team and players should be respected.

Point is Baines had already apologised for his meaning before the interview with Martinez. If he has told the manager that he has been misunderstood then who are we to tell Baines what he really meant. Really Interesting article that. Shows there is such a fine line in football between being successful and unsuccessful. Fact is we are the unluckiest team in the league.

Never did Rodwell any harm did it......Oh wait.

The point is that if you take one player out of the team, that player will be replaced.Rooney. Bent. You lose that one player and the team plays to different strengths. Maybe four players chip on with more goals. Maybe one player steps up. We just don't know. With our 18 goal striker we are 14th, 14th! Not his fault completely, but I blame the whole team. How many premier goals did he score when we finished 5th? So would we finish higher if he scores less? We just don't know.

You could be right, you could be wrong. Take Rom out of the team and for all we k ow we could be champions league. I have been an Everton fan long enough to realise that.....Lineker.

I didn't say that at all....not in the slightest. I also agree the missing piece could be the manager. And I am willing to bet you £1000 we won't get relegated this season or next.

It's hardly undisputable. We have made the semi finals in both cups. We are poor in the league, but we play much more attractive football and have a good squad together. We are just missing a couple of pieces that's all. With Moyes we weren't missing any pieces. We were always the underdog punching above our weight.

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MikeO is just trying to help, but he will struggle. I'm going to step in and accept the ticket to do my bit. About time I took responsibility for our team and supported them properly.....with your help I can ;-)