Newty82

Absolutely over the moon with this.

I aint really commented recently cos Haf has said everything I wanted to!!!

But loving this today. Cant wait to watch our football next season. I doubt anyone will want to leave the club with this appointment and reckon the players will be excited by the prospect of playing good, expansive, attacking football. No more sitting back after 70mins...we will go straight for the throat of every team.

At only 39, we have not seen the best of Martinez. But we are about to.

 

It's because I'm Belgian. 4 of the top 6 goal scorers in the Prem this year were bought from shitty dutch and belgian leagues btw.

Oh my! You'll have to excuse my total ignorance there!

Championship still better...still Rhodes for me...or a lad called James Vaughan did well at Leicester??!!!

How come most are lookin at the shitty dutch belgian type leagues?

Our own Championship beats most of these foreign leagues.

Jordan Rhodes for me. To score 30 odd goals for that pile of crap...worth a shot.

What is says about Everton in the above link....

Unlike the clubs above, Everton come with several problems, a more sizeable debt and the need for a new stadium being the most pressing. In addition, chairman Bill Kenwright has generally been very reluctant to depart, and would probably need a good price to consider a sale. De Laurentiis is rich, but he's not Sheikh Mansour rich, and this looks a much better idea on paper than it would be in reality.That aside, a purchase would grant De Laurentiis an established Premier League club with plenty of talented players on the books and a productive youth setup, so if he's willing to push the boat out, it's not completely impossible.

Seems a shame that clubs like Leeds and Shef Wed are seen as a better oportunity than us...mainly, it seems, due to our extra baggage!!!

Good topic...but the subject is very wrong!!!

I get frustrated with Everton, for a few well discussed and well known subjects.

But because we havent yet appointed a new manager? And using stoke and hughes as an example? Pah!!!

Martinez's Premier League record:

 

Games 152

Wins 38

Draws 43

Losses 71

win % 25%

 

Whelan says he's not "equipped to manage" Wigan in the Championship.

 

Whelan confirms £2m is the compensation fee should anyone want to appoint him.

Bit of a misquote or mistype there...Martinez told Whelan he didnt feel he was equipped to get Wigan out of the championship. Whelan disagrees and feels Martinez is being too hard on hilmself and then quotes the injuries they have had. Whelan believes Martinez is the man and wants him to stay.

Dave Whelan on SSN now, defending Martinez with how crippled the team were with injuries...upto 8 at any time...he's saying no manager could have coped with that.

Wish there were more people like Whelan in football...in life in general actually!!!

We're not called "Bitter Blues" for nothing.

Ha...yeah! Could try a bit more to keep it behind closed doors!!!

If we get Martinez...I absolutely cannot wait to ram the negativity, or as some might say 'concern', down some wide arse throats.

I am however confident that like him or not, everyone will get behind him...until we lose a few games!!!!

I hope we get him. The defensive stuff wont be an issue...so long as he keeps the likes of stubbs and weir on board.

Sky Sports News just read out comments from fans about it...didnt hear one positive which is a shame...as I type they are on about the badge petition...getting fed up that we hit the news with negative issues.

Brrrrrrrrr.

Does look too big on that top....is that the NSNO on the collar???

Under rated

Juice stained knickers

Nah, sorry but I view it differently.

My view of a successful youth development is how many make it fully into our first team or get sold at a nice whopping figure.

I dont think any player is recruited on the first basis that we will give him a career at whatever level...the first basis is always going to be that they will make it for Everton.

Thats my view and what I would expect to see if I owned the club. Otherwise, your investing your money for other clubs benefits??? Like in private everyday business, a business trains its staff to be a success within that business.

I'd expext SSN to start talking more about this later today. Something is gonna happen over the next few days i think.

Still Martinez for me. But I see Periera is a popular choice. I'd be happy with him too.

Still dont get why some of you guys are unhappy with the linked names. Yes, some are bollocks, but theres some good names on there.

Said it before already, we aint gonna attract the 1st tier or 2nd tier type names...we aint won the league for 25odd years, no cup for almost 20years, aint in Europe and are skint, and unfortunately the only mainstream headline grabbing news the club has had the last couple of years has been based around (rightly) dusgruntled fans. Sorry, but its true.

I like the one above from TheKrow without the latin around the outside.

I have looked at the new badge more times now and still like it. I like how the tower actually resembles the tower in real life.

However, i do agree that it feels a bit bland and as if something isnt quite right.

I have always liked the now old badge but can see how it is a bit to 'busy' for todays digital world.

If people feel signing a petition to get their point across is required, then fair play. But unless a huge significant number sign it, a hell of a lot more than the current 14k...thinking of our worldwide fanbase...then it wont change. I think all merchandise will already be done with the new badge on. Like it or not, this stuff will sell.

I know the latin is part of the club, but it has been missing from our badge for most of our history, as have the wreathes. I think they are important to the club, but not the do all and end all of our badge. The latin will remain at the stadium etc and will always be part of us.

Less than this one. But for the influence that they seem to have over us you'd expect us to see more benefit.

Generally, do we know what kit deals are worth

for other clubs?

I would guess that no matter what the deal value, the kit company would influence things in some way. Would be interesting to see if any other clubs who are signed to nike have also changed their badge, either now or in the past. Then that would be a gauge of the influence???

I didn't say that's what you said, I said that's what it suggested. Take more notice eh? .

 

So I should not disagree or question with a poster because they may donate? Get real.

 

And we don't get big money from this Nike deal, unfortunately. We get £3m a year. That's it. We've gone with them more for what their name shows outsiders rather than financial gain.

Oh now c'mon...this is pathetically petty!!! Lets rise above it.

Genuine question...how much have previous kit deals been worth?

I can live with that badge. Kit looks ok. It could have been worse.

Lol not up for a fight at all, Newty. Just didnt like your original post which was dismissive - saying people who have signed that petition are probably the same people who will whinge no matter who the new manager is suggests you think people are moaning for the sake of moaning and that their opinion on this is baseless.

 

Edit - and personally, my unhappiness about the badge is entirely to do with the badge and nothing else. Yes, I'm not a fan of the club owners but they haven't come in to my thinking on this at all. I do t even think the club is the most to blame on this, I think Nike have steamrolled the club into it tbh.

I like the LOL!!!

I write that original post at 12.50am...after watching the Froch Kessler fight, long day...couldnt be arsed to add more depth to it. But also didnt think it would be read into so much. And actually, unlike what you quote above, i said nothing about others opinions being baseless. I have explained what was meant in my previous posts!!! Take more notice.

And.....!!! Be careful what you label people with, you've got me labeled totally wrong. As someone who will quite happily, and i have said this in the begging thread, contribute some coin to the forumon Tuesday, you as a moderator and rep of the forum might want to do your PR a bit better!!!

Im quite happy to leave it at that...

Back to the topic...The PR around the badge has been a nightmare. And if Nike are holding a strong influence, then thats a shame. At the same time, if we want the money to come in from these big firms then we have to give some leeway. I guess thats the dirty world of business.

No, the point is that no one is criticising you, or anyone else, for liking it. It's you that has the problem with people not liking it! You've completely dismissed that view in a condescending manner.

 

Edit - let me ask you something. When you're bothered about an issue surrounding the club but another person doesn't find it a concern and simply dismisses it, will you think that's fair?

I have a problem with people liking it do i??? You've got that totally 100% bollock knacker knicker twisted wrong. Absolutely utterly wrong.

'dismissed that view in a condescending manner'...Im gonna pick my words carefully here as I have a feeling your likely to twist my words a bit...maybe your up for a fight this morning, i dont know...but if i was to condescend towards you guys I would be behaving patronizingly or agreeing to do something as a favour. I dont think I have....or have i?!!!

And your question...if I was your manager or 'superior', and you raised a concern with me, and I dismissed it out of hand, without taking any notice etc...that would be unfair. But as this is a totally different situation, and I havent dismissed anything, nor am I in a position to dismiss anything as I am just another fan on another forum, then the question doesnt seem to relevant.

My very original comment was more about the fact that there will always be people unhappy in this situation, no matter what actions the club do or dont take, and at the moment, that unhappeniness runs deeper than the badge...it is, maybe quite rightly, an unhappiness from a number of other events...if that makes sense?!

 

 

That's right, belittle fellow blues for having concerns. Well played, sir.

Erm...no!!! Belittle?!! Bit over the top. Honestly, I apologise if this has hit yours and others sensitive side. But I cant help but feel that just because I dare to like it...based purely on the image not the politics (for reference, I disagree 100% with the bullshit approach the club have taken with this...yet again giving shit loads of ammo to the haters!), I'll get that sort of response.

Whatever the design was going to be, do you really think that everyone would like it? Nah. As mentioned earlier on, whack 6 designs up and let fans choose. All 6 will get votes. Guess what? Only one will be used...so the voters of the other 5 will be unhappy etc etc.

I dont disagree with those who dislike it, I just think that whatever decision gets made by the club in any aspect of the club will get rubbished here or there. Not sure if I have worded that right or got my point across correctly. Anyway...goin in the gym now....!!!

 

They paid a lot of money to a company for the design. They could have sent it to a local school, and got more original artwork.

Ok. Haven't really read into how it was designed. Was just commenting in the actual final picture. When peeps dont like a design the school kid thing always comes out. I remember the same with the olympic logo. I understand where your comin from though.

Dont see what all the fuss is about.

Its all part of an evolution...which we go through in every walk of life all the time.

It looks quite good. Fairly retro. Nice and simplistic.

SSN report 6000 fans have signed a petition against it and the omission of the Latin. Probs the same 6k who will whinge no matter who the new manager is.

Total bollock of a thread.

None of the backroom staff are in contention. They aint even been coaches for long!

They may have been spoken to, but probably more for an opinion.

Peace.

Not sure what the problem is to be honest.

If we aint got a manager in July, when all players are back, tours are beginning etc, then I will say we didnt have a plan, BK is a prick, Elstone bums BK while the tealady licks his balls

But just now, theres no need.

The season has just finished in this country, in some it still aint finished, and the players are off on international duty or holiday.

There is absolutely no reason to panic. Something will happen within the next week. And in reality, when we take our anti-BK, panic stricken heads off...thats ok, its not a problem.

We have no idea about anything...so lets just wait.

I'll whack some in on Tuesday, or there abouts.