Louis Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/article19914.ece A site in the city’s docklands in North Liverpool – owned by one of the country’s leading property groups Peel Holdings – has already been earmarked as a potential site. Such a scheme would minimise the cost to both clubs and have the backing of Liverpool City Council, who want both clubs to remain within city boundaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troy8 Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 despite the fact i dont live in england - big NO to this. it keeps the spirit of rivalry alive if we play at different stadiums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillaGTiR Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 well money wise it would be better for both clubs to share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philinsuffolk Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 I think its fair to say that Inter and AC Milan retain a rivalry and they share. I am not saying I am all for it, but I just don't think the idea can be dismissed too easily. I know its about having a home, a place that is ours, etc but the money involved is serious amounts. If we are not going to have the Tesco money then where is the money going to come from? If we are scrambling around to spend £30m on transfer fees, then try the £300m plus it would need to go it alone in the city. I say do a feasibility study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Liverpool City Council went to NWDA to request funds to commission one a while ago, I don't know what happened exactly but I was told that the funds would only become available if both clubs agreed to the idea in principle. John Whittaker (Peel Holdings boss worth £900million+) is involved, Warren Bradley was on radio saying he's been discussing it with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 I say go for it, it seems to work in other Countries Plus we get a top notch stadium with maybe 60 to 70 thousand capacity for half the price. Business wise and being short of cash its a no brainer for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 I'm not against this idea at all. We could have a huge 70 seater stadium, the atmosphere, especially on derby matches would be immense. The price would be halved, we'd probably got some funding. We have to get rid of these exclusivity deal with Tesco asap cos that's holding us back aswell. With not too many options or money floating around, I'd say that a ground share could (possibly) be the best option. For me it's either that or redevelop GP, but then there's another headache to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 The Express today has the back page talking about liverpoops stadium plans being delayed because of the yanks problems (yes the credit crunch was memtioned ffs) I could see it happening if only the fans could be big enough to allow it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 I'm not against this idea at all. We could have a huge 70 seater stadium, the atmosphere, especially on derby matches would be immense. The price would be halved, we'd probably got some funding. We have to get rid of these exclusivity deal with Tesco asap cos that's holding us back aswell. With not too many options or money floating around, I'd say that a ground share could (possibly) be the best option. For me it's either that or redevelop GP, but then there's another headache to consider. Who says we have no ambition!? From what I've been told the funding would pretty much pay for the stadium because it would be a regeneration (I'm sick of that word too!) catalyst. A redeveloped Goodison Park is my preference but a ground share does make sense to me (more so than Kirkby). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Who says we have no ambition!? From what I've been told the funding would pretty much pay for the stadium because it would be a regeneration (I'm sick of that word too!) catalyst. A redeveloped Goodison Park is my preference but a ground share does make sense to me (more so than Kirkby). In this day and age of increased energy, land, building maintenance costs this is the only way forward. it makes KEIOC defunct, Kirkby residents elated and the Stanley Park trees growing. Possibble this story should be read inconjunction with http://www.toffeetalk.com/index.php?showto...mp;#entry134542, the Americans loans are up as the recession will bite in harder even after another six months they cannot build it and the rs will be up in arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 i'd prefer it to kirby as would many people i presume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 i'd prefer it to kirby as would many people i presume. What we want and what we can afford are two very different things,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,this has NWD money to it so it will be a huge saving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linglong Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 the sooner both clubs and thier fans realise they dont have the cash for a stadium each the better it'll be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlmc25 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 I say go for it, it seems to work in other Countries Plus we get a top notch stadium with maybe 60 to 70 thousand capacity for half the price. Business wise and being short of cash its a no brainer for me. I agree, the worry is will Liverpool and their fans see it as such a great deal? Personally, I think it's the ideal option and the Council should be pushing it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Berno Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Prefer this over Kirkby but redoveloping GP is the best option IMO. Altough if we ground share forgien people will know the stadium would belong to the most sussessful club (which would be liverpool admitedly) so in theory it would be known as liverpools stadium and it would make us look stupid I mean come on we couldn't fill a 70k seater stadium if our lives depended on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everton_Worshiper Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Only ways it would work would be if Council had ownership or if neither club has a majority share in ownership. Wouldn't say no to the idea, but would love to know how crests/names on the stadium would work and how the seating colours would be changed etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troy8 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Altough if we ground share forgien people will know the stadium would belong to the most sussessful club (which would be liverpool admitedly) so in theory it would be known as liverpools stadium and it would make us look stupid I mean come on we couldn't fill a 70k seater stadium if our lives depended on it. true true. ignorant world...... <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 The Americans are in big financial problems and today DIC has bought Citeh, shows you what a new ground can do. Liverpool fans have to realise that their suppose safe net of DIC taking them over cannot happen now and they are more in shit street than we ever knew how to be. A joint venture is the only reasonable way forward for all concerned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 The Americans are in big financial problems and today DIC has bought Citeh, shows you what a new ground can do. Liverpool fans have to realise that their suppose safe net of DIC taking them over cannot happen now and they are more in shit street than we ever knew how to be. A joint venture is the only reasonable way forward for all concerned it ain't the same people bought city that want us. There would be MASSIVE resistance to a groundshare from liverpool fans. If the supermegadrome arena is as dead as it looks, there will be a massive push from fans groups to re-developing anfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viennatoffee Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 No wtf, I´m always for different stadiums and will also be! A big nooo to this idea! Every team needs his own area of the city and there have to stand their own stadium! Our stadiums aren´t far away at the moment, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted September 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 If the choice is between: a world class 80,000 capacity stadium (white seats with blue and red lights like the Allianz Arena in Munich on the inside so the seats are different colours) or a high quality but not world class 50,000 stadium and for arguments sake the 80k is cheaper to the club due to EU funding and the fact we would paying half a contribution what would you settle for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viennatoffee Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 It´s just the fact playing in one stadium, this just sounds shit for me like we also see at Milan, I don´t really like this so I would prefer the 50,000! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlmc25 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Liverpool fans would see it as bailing out Everton, they're a bigger club with a better stadium and a more attractive proposition to investors. I just can't see any of them going for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting4ever Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 as things stand at the moment, i think they might. I mean, rivalries asside, they're inteligent people, and at this time, with both clubs with dificulties with getting new stadiums, and with the city so keen to help, and with the simple fact that you would be able to get a much more impressive stadium the 2 together then either one could on their own, i just think it IS possible. But people need to start talking about it. Financially, it's the way to go. lower costs, bigger stadium, more revenue, bigger crouds. and as we all know, more money = better players = more silverware = more money, so you need to get that cicle started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 i'm all for it, would be good for both clubs and great for the city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlmc25 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 as things stand at the moment, i think they might. I mean, rivalries asside, they're inteligent people, and at this time, with both clubs with dificulties with getting new stadiums, and with the city so keen to help, and with the simple fact that you would be able to get a much more impressive stadium the 2 together then either one could on their own, i just think it IS possible. But people need to start talking about it. Financially, it's the way to go. lower costs, bigger stadium, more revenue, bigger crouds. and as we all know, more money = better players = more silverware = more money, so you need to get that cicle started. Liverpool owners might go for it, but the fans wouldn't - they would run the owners out of town before sharing a stadium with us. The only way this could happen is if the Council somehow forced the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting4ever Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Liverpool owners might go for it, but the fans wouldn't - they would run the owners out of town before sharing a stadium with us. The only way this could happen is if the Council somehow forced the issue. if EFC fans can go for it, why can't LFC fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 it ain't the same people bought city that want us. There would be MASSIVE resistance to a groundshare from liverpool fans. If the supermegadrome arena is as dead as it looks, there will be a massive push from fans groups to re-developing anfield. Thanks my mistake, Mike pointed it before, its my medication I think the local resident would prevent any redevelopment, that is part the reason they wanted to move in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 if EFC fans can go for it, why can't LFC fans? first of all remember there are two different perspectives here, its not just simply a case of one set of fans being imore stubborn. I think Everton fans see it as a preferable alternative to either Kirkby or staying at Goodison (without redevelopment). Liverpool fans, at the moment, don't. Under the status quo, Everton seem unable to attract investment, and it's almost certainly due to the lack of facilities at Goodison and the pressing need to either move or develop would be a massive turn-off to anyone looking to invest. Liverpool, on the other hand have some very rich people interested in buying us, who have maintained their interest despite being treated badly. I think most liverpool fans are more disposed to staying put and weathering the storm for the moment as it looks like a lack of financial backing will probably force the americans to sell in the next 12 months. If we were in similar circumstances then theres no way Everton fans would want to move in with us than we would with them, I'm certain of it. Honest to god if the council want to help the clubs and the local area they should be bending over backwards to help us redevelop Anfield and Goodison. They are two of the most important and significant buildings in Liverpool, and we're looking at them possibly both being demolished within months of each other. Might as well knock the cathedrals down too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrbyJFC Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Dunno i could see a country best stadim 80k - 100k could be a good thing for liverpool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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