Bluepips Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 (edited) Phil Neville should be announced the full time captain of the club for next season and many years 2 come aslo. He is a pure class player, with determination and has already fallin in love with the club tht so many already have. So wat u think of him being full time skippa nxt year? Edited May 28, 2006 by Bluepips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 bluepips? are you phil neville? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 I wouldnt say no to Nev being skipper, but i doubt it will happen next season with Weir still showing faith in Weir and Stubbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepips Posted May 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 bluepips? are you phil neville? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No i am not neville what made u say tht, do u not agree tht he should be skippa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 bluepips? are you phil neville? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 well he gets called Pip, so i just thought it might be you. i do apologise Mr.Neville. but i agree, Phil Neville should be the captain next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepips Posted May 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 well he gets called Pip, so i just thought it might be you. i do apologise Mr.Neville. but i agree, Phil Neville should be the captain next season <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh rite yea know i understand i wish i was as good as neville a.k.a pip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 i wouldnt have give it to him, hes not a good player, to say hes class is laughable i would av give it to hibbert (i do agree that neville is a good leader, i just dont think he should get the chance to get in the startin 11, hes a below average player IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 i wouldnt have give it to him, hes not a good player, to say hes class is laughable i would av give it to hibbert (i do agree that neville is a good leader, i just dont think he should get the chance to get in the startin 11, hes a below average player IMO <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I dont know if i would mwke him captain but hes not below average IMO Mite get shot for this but i think Beattie would make a good captain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 not a bad shout that goldy, i would like to see our finished team before i said who i would prefer (you never know we MITE get a great centre back with leadership skills....or we mite stick with weir <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 I know moneys tight but a midfield general should also be in our sights IMO and i always think a centre mid with some bite makes a good captain because they are in the thick of everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_webby Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Keeper: if martyn stayed and played (doubt it very much) but would give it to him Defender: stubbs if no other defender is brought in to play along side yobo Midfielder: neville or carsley Striker: BT possibles through the whole team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tara Mac Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Well pleased with this one. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 hes shit .... shudnt b newer near the england team.... i think hsi first 5 or 6 games he was ok.... but other than tht hes poor and doesnt know what to do... against spurs at right back he was shocking, hes crap at left back, and wel ldefensive mid he jsut doesnt have it, his positioning and knowledge of the play isnt good enough .... if u look at makelele hes so good because he filsl the gaps all the time, hes aware of everything, neville jus cant do that.... so no i dont think he should be captain, but i dont know who else to give it to .... i think beattie maybe, he seems liek the loudest player bar neville so mayb , if yobo wasnt so quiet id giv it to him and hope it made him stay lol ..... but yeh prolly beattie for me, even Johnson if he signs, he seems to have a voice... but i dnt wanna see neville i nthe starting line-up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 sorry mate, but neville's been one of, if not the, most consistent performers this season. he's not the best right back, but we miss his defensive capabilities when hes not in midfield. but comparing him to the best defensive midfielder in the world is not fair comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 I know moneys tight but a midfield general should also be in our sights IMO and i always think a centre mid with some bite makes a good captain because they are in the thick of everything. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Itsnt that what phil "PIP" nevile is supposed to be I think he will be made captain, and should be, hes the most experiance player we have and has the silverwear to back it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Yea i think he would she be captin but i doubt it will happen with weir and stubbs still in the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Yea i think he would she be captin but i doubt it will happen with weir and stubbs still in the team <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Has Neville had a sex change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluenose Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 neville should get it IMO. hes a valuble member of the team coz he will play anywhere and will give 100% effort. plus hes actually a leader on the pitch. most noticable in the bucharest game at Goodison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 isnt yobo the captain of nigeria? id have a neville as captain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUE-TAC Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Reckon a captain should play near the centre of the field-ctr mfdlder or CB but not Neville. Not his greatest fan but won't knock him cos he's come out with some great comments about EFC! This depends if he speaks the lingo but the player with the best brain IMO is Arteta and it could help keep him at the club cos there MUST be major interest in him. Or even Cahill-reckon he can get the lads fired up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 A skipper needs to have a strong presence and not be scared to shout at his team mates and point out mistakes and Arteta doesnt do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUE-TAC Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Agree but still don't reckon PN although I think Moyes will make him captain v.soon. He seems to be vocal anyway so it could be a waste. You need a few out there who can have a word. Maybe not Arteta but Cahill is a possibility imo...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
java2001e Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 yeah nevilles got the experience and the authority to handle the armband. i'd have no doubts about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve L Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Totally agree that Neville should be our skipper next season. No one has more experience than him and he constantly tries to drive on the rest of the team. I speak as someone who sees him every time he plays, home or away, and it's easy to see he is a clear leader. He doesn't have to be the worlds best player to be the skipper (Davie Weir for example), but he does have the respect of his peers and can be inspirational. So, Pip it should be. No question! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 sorry mate, but neville's been one of, if not the, most consistent performers this season. he's not the best right back, but we miss his defensive capabilities when hes not in midfield. but comparing him to the best defensive midfielder in the world is not fair comment. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> why not fair? jus outlining why he is indeed the best and why neville is far ffrom a good player and as for consistancy he had 5 or 6 good games thats it after that he was average just didnt seem to care as much for me.... i dont like him nor do i think hes a good player, he isnt good enough to play the defensive mid role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ola Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Totally agree that Neville should be our skipper next season.No one has more experience than him and he constantly tries to drive on the rest of the team. I speak as someone who sees him every time he plays, home or away, and it's easy to see he is a clear leader. He doesn't have to be the worlds best player to be the skipper (Davie Weir for example), but he does have the respect of his peers and can be inspirational. So, Pip it should be. No question! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetrip Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 I remember Neville shouting orders at everyone at his first game for us, he is definately the most natural leader we have and he's learned how to from one of the best captains of modern times, Roy Keane. He's not the best going forward but he breaks up play effectively, runs himself into the ground and makes sure people stay alert and in position. He would be the obvious choice next season and since Moyes is his biggest fan its almost a certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Think Phil is a shoe in, but if wier is still there, will he retain it Or will stubbs be given is back?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ola Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Think Phil is a shoe in, but if wier is still there, will he retain it Or will stubbs be given is back?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> not weir ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepips Posted June 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 not weir ffs <{POST_SNAPBACK}> he's shite int he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 I feel as if people are saying the player with the most ability should be skipper, Steptoe is our only choice if leadership and experience has anything to do with holding the armband. For me this is a no-brainer. ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluenose Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 neville acn play in many positions, is a natural leader and has lots of experience at premiership, european and england level. plus hes still 28 so id give him it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 (edited) he can indeedp lay in many positions but he isn't good in any of them, he's a godo bench player.... captain? please god no .... every1 talking about us moving forward, showing AMBITION, how is playing a decent player at best and a man u reject captain ambition? i thought we were meant to be a big club? Edited June 10, 2006 by CraccerC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 As Mac said you dont get the captains armband based on talent, you get it on leadership skills and commitment etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 but you get in the startign line-up on talent, and he shouldn't be good enough to be i nthe startign line-up, the sad thing is he will more than likely play because our midfield as stated before isn't as good as everyone thinks it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 As Mac said you dont get the captains armband based on talent, you get it on leadership skills and commitment etc <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nice one Mark. but you get in the startign line-up on talent, and he shouldn't be good enough to be i nthe startign line-up, the sad thing is he will more than likely play because our midfield as stated before isn't as good as everyone thinks it is <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Cracker, I can see where you are coming from mate, but a captain has an additional role to play, that is as the managers representative on the field of play. This is why so many Captains go on to management, they have the ability to perfom at a high level and supply leadership where and when it matters. For us Steptoe is the man. ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Put it this way do we have a better defensive midfielder? No. Carsley wont show the form he once did, Cahill isnt good enough defensively. So do you want to play the invisible man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 no but i mean we need to bring some1 in, i just dont think its goodenuff havin nevilel playin DM and be captain for us, wer talkin about phil nevilel here ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 His position is not the most important for us, id rather spend money in the MOST needed positions. Im not saying hes the best at what he does but its not essential to replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 His position is not the most important for us, id rather spend money in the MOST needed positions. Im not saying hes the best at what he does but its not essential to replace him. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> F*cking good call Mark, we have made positive moves in the transfer market so far, let's focus on what needs looking at. Tara says hello BTW Mark. ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 The hello is much appreciated and returned warmly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 well considering its the DM role which is essentially the heart of the team, the rock that the team revolves around, the person that needs the msot intelligence and awareness and off the ball movement, i think thats its more than an essaentail area.... if we get lescott or anotehr CB then DM is next for me, then the wings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 well considering its the DM role which is essentially the heart of the team, the rock that the team revolves around, the person that needs the msot intelligence and awareness and off the ball movement, i think thats its more than an essaentail area.... if we get lescott or anotehr CB then DM is next for me, then the wings <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I dont the mr moyes singed a defensive midfielder like neville with the intention of replacing him a year later, I think the central mid is our strongest area and as mr moyes has proved, he makes a couple of additions each year of players who have got potential and their carriers ahead of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 neville - shit DM not a great tackler, not great positionally cahill - not a great center mid he doesnt have the class, vision, presense basically the quality... hes ok further forward but still so i cant c how its strongest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 craccerc said.........."so i cant c how its r strongest" ................................. Davies, Osman, Cahill, Neville, Arteta............any club outside the top six would take any of these players, we are not bad in that department. Would like to see a good left footer come in........(Downing, Boa Morte, Jagielka) and i would be very happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 I wouldnt want Downing but the other two would be good signings if we could possibly get them (its very very doubtful) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 I would like Boa Morte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 The shite will come in for him and get him IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 teh Neville issue is one that wont go away, you hear it every week on the radio after the match people will either phone in and slag him or sing his praises (on the same day) i was gutted when i heard we signed him, i got laughed at by my manc friends, not because we signed him, but because i was gutted. the thing they always said and they still do is: he will never let you down, always 100%. which i now agree with totally, and they said he wont be the best player in your team, but you'll notice when he's not there. again i agree, when he's not in our midfied we dont have the organisation, people get caught out of position, and no one really breaks up the play. now im not sayin he's the best, but hes the best we have at organising and leading the team, even at havin a go at the ref (no one else does it!) but he is also the best we can afford in that position, he has the most experience and wether anyone likes it or not shit players dont get the chance to stay at united for 10 years for nothin! some people just cant get over the "fact" that hes a united "reject" others appreciate what he bring to our team i know what side of the fence im on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Im the side that appreciates what he does for the team week in week out, he f###ing gives us all for the team, and not many other players do that. You dont see Yobo, Osman or even Cahill doing that. They more often than not plod along when the going gets tough, but Phil's there giving his all no matter what. Anybody who can criticise him is just plain stupid. We dont have the money to go and buy a £10million quality DM, who more than likely would not show the commitment Phil does. So lay off him folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetrip Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 I'd take Phill Nevile over some jump-ship foreign international like valente or van der meyde any day. He cant change the game with a 50 yard cross-field pass or skin players but he knows his limits and plays to his strengths. Most of the stuff Neville does goes unnoticed - pressing every ball, breaking up play and winning posession, filling the holes, organising the players. Defending wasn't our main problem last year, scoring was. We need to look at bringing in at least 1 winger and cover for arteta and cahill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 craccerc said.........."so i cant c how its r strongest"................................. Davies, Osman, Cahill, Neville, Arteta............any club outside the top six would take any of these players, we are not bad in that department. Would like to see a good left footer come in........(Downing, Boa Morte, Jagielka) and i would be very happy. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> davies, nah osman possibly but a bottom half /struggling club cahill, yeh probably although i still dont think he's that great neville, hmmmmmm debatable on the bench yeh arteta, well yes obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Im the side that appreciates what he does for the team week in week out, he f###ing gives us all for the team, and not many other players do that. You dont see Yobo, Osman or even Cahill doing that. They more often than not plod along when the going gets tough, but Phil's there giving his all no matter what. Anybody who can criticise him is just plain stupid. We dont have the money to go and buy a £10million quality DM, who more than likely would not show the commitment Phil does. So lay off him folks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agree, always gives 110% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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