Warning Point

[pete0]

I don't agree with my warning. A S*n backer, who is pro-censorship and against freedom of speech will be treated with disregard, especially the significance of his timing. I proved the idiot is a wind up merchant as he contradicts his own morals so was just being a bellend for his own shits and giggles.

"Get your fucking head out of our arse you childish little blirt and understand this, I agree with what you are saying that he shouldnt have to censor anything etc and abbie clancy was wrong etc etc I understand and agree with all that I just dont agree with the way in which Jose said those comments on twitter."

Either that, or he is a stupid cunt. TT is for the thinking Evertonian, it shouldn't be littered with the absolute nonsense he was spouting. No other mods complained in the thread, as I assume they could plainly see what I was doing and why.

 

Also how many times has abuse been banded about by other members without a warning?

 

Finally, for the use of the word cunt (used profusely on this forum), if you read it properly the adjective I've used is thick, and that's what should be offensive.

Edited September 18, 2012 by pete0

[Avinalaff]

I hate that word if I'm honest.

 

Can't we have a swear word censorship? Swearing is so boring on a forum.

[Kohen]

I'm lost..

[Dalziel Kane]

I don't think he's alone in this, but it's not something I would advertise.

 

If people are going to give them out then at least let the reasons be justified. And what's the maximum number anyway or limit, can we have a little more insight on this issue? But please let's not just dish these out if it's not really warranted. I prefered it when from before when these things were not even evident. If someone crosses a line or gets out of order then a simple word from an 'authority' figure should be suffice.

[Zoo]

I'm lost..

 

Me too...

 

Are people giving out warnings for swearing or something?

[Romey 1878]

I don't agree with my warning. A S*n backer, who is pro-censorship and against freedom of speech will be treated with disregard, especially the significance of his timing. I proved the idiot is a wind up merchant as he contradicts his own morals so was just being a bellend for his own shits and giggles.

"Get your fucking head out of our arse you childish little blirt and understand this, I agree with what you are saying that he shouldnt have to censor anything etc and abbie clancy was wrong etc etc I understand and agree with all that I just dont agree with the way in which Jose said those comments on twitter."

Either that, or he is a stupid cunt. TT is for the thinking Evertonian, it shouldn't be littered with the absolute nonsense he was spouting. No other mods complained in the thread, as I assume they could plainly see what I was doing and why.

 

Also how many times has abuse been banded about by other members without a warning?

 

Finally, for the use of the word cunt (used profusely on this forum), if you read it properly the adjective I've used is thick, and that's what should be offensive.

 

You couldn't have taken this up with the mod who issued the warning by PM?

 

I hate that word if I'm honest.

 

Can't we have a swear word censorship? Swearing is so boring on a forum.

 

We're adults (I don't know of any kids on here, by age at least ), so if some want to swear then that's the way it is, and if some don't want to use swear words then that's fine too. But censorship is wrong, IMO.

[pete0]

You couldn't have taken this up with the mod who issued the warning by PM?

 

 

 

We're adults (I don't know of any kids on here, by age at least ), so if some want to swear then that's the way it is, and if some don't want to use swear words then that's fine too. But censorship is wrong, IMO.

If I had been pm'd I would have kept it to that, but It was via email, which I thought was a bit strange. Plus I'd like to see the other mods views, as if I had to guess on which mod would give me a warning first I would have been proven right. There were many worse exchanges between other members over the summer that when on for much longer, and I also have had more heated arguments with Dunc without receiving a warning. TBH if it was any other mod, I'd have been more accepting, but it's obvious this one has taken a disliking to me in recent months, which I'm not arsed about, but he should stay impartial regardless.

[Romey 1878]

If I had been pm'd I would have kept it to that, but It was via email, which I thought was a bit strange. Plus I'd like to see the other mods views, as if I had to guess on which mod would give me a warning first I would have been proven right. There were many worse exchanges between other members over the summer that when on for much longer, and I also have had more heated arguments with Dunc without receiving a warning. TBH if it was any other mod, I'd have been more accepting, but it's obvious this one has taken a disliking to me in recent months, which I'm not arsed about, but he should stay impartial regardless.

 

I don't know their reasons behind emailing rather than PM'ing, maybe they thought it would be a better way of keeping it civil? The reason you got a warning is because there was a complaint, it wasn't that that mod took it upon themselves to give you a warning point. That's not how it works. So even if a mod (I really don't know who you might be talking about if I'm honest!) has taken a dislike to you then that isn't the reason for the warning.

[Avinalaff]

Romey, it seems to me that the site needs a little clarity regarding what is and isn't acceptable, as at the moment, the rules ask that members avoid swearing.

 

I'm sure you'll point to the 'not set in stone' comment, but leaving things open to interpretation is often the cause of many problems on forums.

 

Swearing has nothing to do with being either a kid or an adult. It has the tendency to cause offense, and should therefore have boundaries in social areas. The writer may in your eyes have the option of deciding whether to swear or not, but what of the reader?

 

The forum will have a word filter that prevents certain words from appearing on the page. 'Cunt' for example (disgusting word btw) would then appear as ****.

 

It would be a sad reflection of the times if those that preferred not to have to read or use such profanity were to feel in the minority, and viewed as trouble causers, as opposed to the swearers having a little courtesy for their fellow members.

 

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name='Matt' timestamp='1319127161' post='260574']

Just a reminder to look at the site guide lines everyone:

 

http://www.toffeetal...embers-new-old/

 

Seems some of us have been getting a little carried away (mods and admin included here), with swearing mostly and opening new threads without checking to see if there are old ones available (top left corner kids, its not hard!!!). Swearing will only be tolerated so long as it is not malicious, this isnt a "PG" site afterall.

 

I know in the heat of debate there can also be some name calling and what not, but there have been one or two examples recently of some over the top and downright disgusting comments being made by a select few. Some of them have been banned, others are on their final warning.

 

Lets keep this place at a good standard, one that welcomes new comers and doesnt put people off.[/b]

[Romey 1878]

Well it's just my opinion that censorship in this case would be wrong, if more would like it to be a requirement not to swear rather than just a request then I'm sure it'll be looked at. But, as far as I'm concerned, if it's not excessive or used in an abusive way (i.e. "fuckinghell, that was shit" and not "fuck off, you're a wanker") then it's not a problem.

[Zoo]

Censorship is ridiculous IMO. It's only a word ffs, get over yourselves.

 

If you really find it that offensive then there should be an optional way of hiding words that you find offensive. I'd be pretty miffed it I was forced into censorship because it would make the forum pretty hard to read, the Newcastle match-day thread would simply appear as '********** **************** linesman **************'.

 

 

 

CUNT <3

 

[pete0]

I don't know their reasons behind emailing rather than PM'ing, maybe they thought it would be a better way of keeping it civil? The reason you got a warning is because there was a complaint, it wasn't that that mod took it upon themselves to give you a warning point. That's not how it works. So even if a mod (I really don't know who you might be talking about if I'm honest!) has taken a dislike to you then that isn't the reason for the warning.

Thanks for the extra information.

This sounds like I'm interrogating you, so I'll leave my next questions to other mods.

There was no mention of that in the email. If there's a complaint, I shouldn't get a warning point straight away, there should be more communication. Don't mods discuss wether a warning is warranted? Howcome, I am not informed about who complained?

To who ever complained, you dont have to read my post, block my content if it really upsets you so much.

[StevO]

I didnt chose to email you rather than PM, the warning system does that itself. We fill in the form and it takes care of the rest.

 

The content of the argument was not the issue, it was the abusive reaction to it.

In no situation is it ok to call someone a cunt for having a different opinion.

 

Someone doesnt have to complain for a warning to be issued, the content posted speaks for itself. People should not have to block certain users, this is a public forum for discussions to take place.

 

I'll say it again, but read the rules.

 

SECTION 1

 

Under no circumstances will topics on following be considered acceptable:

 

A - RACIST REMARKS

B - SEXIST REMARKS

C - HOMOPHOBIC REMARKS

D - SECTARIAN / RELIGIOUS ABUSE

E - TERMINAL ILLNESS

F - PERSONAL ABUSE / BULLYING

G - POSITIVE REMARKS ABOUT CLIVE THOMAS

 

If it seems like i've taken a dislike to you in recent months then i'm sorry but that has not been my intention. Besides, in recent months I have not been online much to have actually thought about it.

[marcopaulo]

If I had been pm'd I would have kept it to that, but It was via email, which I thought was a bit strange. Plus I'd like to see the other mods views, as if I had to guess on which mod would give me a warning first I would have been proven right. There were many worse exchanges between other members over the summer that when on for much longer, and I also have had more heated arguments with Dunc without receiving a warning. TBH if it was any other mod, I'd have been more accepting, but it's obvious this one has taken a disliking to me in recent months, which I'm not arsed about, but he should stay impartial regardless.

 

verbal warnings were given for them as the site didn't have warning points at the time..i know this cos i got one cos someone(nameless) bitched..hence why i fucked off for a bit to let things cool

[pete0]

I didnt chose to email you rather than PM, the warning system does that itself. We fill in the form and it takes care of the rest.

 

The content of the argument was not the issue, it was the abusive reaction to it.

In no situation is it ok to call someone a cunt for having a different opinion.

 

Someone doesnt have to complain for a warning to be issued, the content posted speaks for itself. People should not have to block certain users, this is a public forum for discussions to take place.

 

I'll say it again, but read the rules.

 

 

 

If it seems like i've taken a dislike to you in recent months then i'm sorry but that has not been my intention. Besides, in recent months I have not been online much to have actually thought about it.

Thank you. Although if you do or do not, it's up to you, I really don't mind.

 

If it's personal abuse, did they also get a warning? "Get your fucking head out of our arse you childish little blirt".

However, I believe the abuse was warranted as it got that reaction and proved the poster is a hypocrite (fitting of both meanings).

'a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religiousbeliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.'

'a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, orstatements belie his or her public statements.'

[Avinalaff]

Censorship is ridiculous IMO. It's only a word ffs, get over yourselves.

 

If you really find it that offensive then there should be an optional way of hiding words that you find offensive. I'd be pretty miffed it I was forced into censorship because it would make the forum pretty hard to read, the Newcastle match-day thread would simply appear as '********** **************** linesman **************'.

 

 

 

CUNT <3

 

 

It's only ridiculous to those that like to swear. It's not ridiculous to the more refined, cultured, mature, sophisticated leaders of men such as myself, who at great cost to their own agendas keep you mere Neanderthals in intellectual conversation so that others may benefit from our wisdom and measured debate.

 

Please tell me why you might find it difficult to express yourself without swearing?

 

 

TWAT ! <3

 

[pete0]

 

 

verbal warnings were given for them as the site didn't have warning points at the time..i know this cos i got one cos someone(nameless) bitched..hence why i fucked off for a bit to let things cool

What was it for? You weren't even one of the posters I had in mind, unless it's literally for the word cunt alone aha.

So can anyone just put a complaint in, and a warning is issued without any discussion? Flawed system if so.

[Avinalaff]

verbal warnings were given for them as the site didn't have warning points at the time..i know this cos i got one cos someone(nameless) bitched..hence why i fucked off for a bit to let things cool

 

He swore again !

[Romey 1878]

Please tell me why you might find it difficult to express yourself without swearing?

 

Personally, I can express myself without swearing. I feel I articulate myself well and have a good vocabularly, but I swear. Why? Because I want to.

[Avinalaff]

Personally, I can express myself without swearing. I feel I articulate myself well and have a good vocabularly, but I swear. Why? Because I want to.

 

Then give me your mod job so I can warn you.

[Romey 1878]

Then give me your mod job so I can warn you.

 

 

When I use it in an absuive way I'll warn myself.

[Avinalaff]

When I use it in an absuive way I'll warn myself.

 

 

 

 

[Romey 1878]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Argh, I can't see what you've put in the spoiler box because I'm on my phone .

[Avinalaff]

Sorry, here it is again.

 

 

 

 

[Lowensda]

Woah, I go the lakes for 4 days and this is what I come back to....tut tut tut.

 

Hello everybody

[marcopaulo]

What was it for? You weren't even one of the posters I had in mind, unless it's literally for the word cunt alone aha.

So can anyone just put a complaint in, and a warning is issued without any discussion? Flawed system if so.

 

the whole halewood argument and some other little bell cheese..i deserved it..just didn't like the way it was issued but it's sorted now..the warning system is a much better method..and i'd have assumed it was an automatic email to be honest..just like when you get a pm it emails you to tell you

 

 

 

 

as for the leader of men crap avin just spouted..i really hope that's sarcastic..and i think it is..cos that is bullcrap of the highest

[Avinalaff]

 

as for the leader of men crap avin just spouted..i really hope that's sarcastic..and i think it is..cos that is bullcrap of the highest

 

Waddya mean sacrcastic ?

[Dalziel Kane]

This is part of what I was reading tonight, so it's all a bit deja-vu

 

I still can't comprehend why I have a damn warning point, I've been not guilty of any serious infractions? I'm going to let it lie, can't be asked with an argument at this hour.

 

Since we're at it however, people should be aware, that tonight -

 

I drunk a whole three liters of Heineken Beer , and not only that, but spent the evening in a Netherlands Soccer Replica

 

not only that, but - spat at a seagull

 

and wait for it.............. accused a woman motorist of 'favoring male genitalia'

 

I'm pretty sure I'm going to burn in hell for this

 

We're going to bed now, but I'm damn scared I'm going to wake up in a flaming pit in hell with some other unrepentant sinners..

 

Yeah, they're going to toast my bones for sure..

 

It's a damn relief they abolished the death penalty in the UK when they did..

 

I seriously don't know how I'm going to sleep tonight.

[Kohen]

I think I might just stay away from this thread..

[Lowensda]

I think I might just stay away from this thread..

 

Best way Ko, best way mate.