Dalziel Kane Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 May as well ask, what was the referee like today. I missed most of the game in my defense but was there an improvement today for all round competence ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Man Utd almost got screwed over by the lino in todays game. Definite legit goal ruled out for offside and within 60secs Man City go up the other end and score to make it 2-1 instead of 3-0. See its not just us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 May as well ask, what was the referee like today. I missed most of the game in my defense but was there an improvement today for all round competence ? Pretty decent imo... Didnt have to do much though really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 I'm not one to get all worked up about referees because things do tend to even out in the end, but it seems like we can't play a single game without a ridiculous referee decision/non-decision going against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Pretty decent imo... Didnt have to do much though really. I appreciate a response, but it's late and we're going to bed etc. I'm still very pleased about getting a win over Tottenham today (Yesterday !), They are a decent side with some very good players, difficuilt opposition, and had a progress in the UEFA cup recently. We don't beat this opposition much, and in the manner it arrived, two goals in the final two minutes - fucking nice! It only goes to show, if a match official has a quiet game, or goes unnoticed, they at least have done a good job etc. Now, if you'll excuse me, we're falling into bed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 fussy fuck though had some annoying instances like running 50 yards to check the ball wasn't an inch out of the corner quadrant..and it wasn't..and the possibly handball? although not sure and not seen a replay since..never mentioned on MOTD so i assume it wasn't so fair enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideliner Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 no major decisions against us - so no official complaint - if those two penalty situations were against and not for us i suspect we might have got a penalty against us - penalty given in similar circumstances for Liverpool against WestHam for hand ball - harsh one i thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-news/everton-fc/2012/12/12/55578-32409374/ www.debatabledecisions.com/english-premier-league-tables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Both Merseyside clubs have been majorly affected by the decisions. To think we wouldn't be in a better league position, but we'd certainly be title contenders. Madness. Spurs have really benefited from dubious decisions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oztoffee Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 I personally am not too bothered about the decisions, it's the lack of consistency that is the real problem. Each referee views each incident in a different light and the variables can be quite stunning. I know what I'm talking about because I've done it! I let a probable deliberate handball slide because the player involved already had a yellow card for a nothing incident (he was booked as an example to others because the game was getting a tad tetchy), the game was evenly balanced with about 5 mins to go and to award a penalty and send the player off would unfairly punish the offending player's team. I had 3 seconds to think about it and that's the decision I came up with. Would I have come to the same conclusion in the first half? Probably not....that's the whole point. But note I said probable. It cannot ever be proven that a handball was deliberate in most cases. Don't get me started on 'ball to hand' either! It's a lose-lose arguement. These however are matters of opinion, not matters of fact. Matters of fact include offside decisions, ball in/out of play, ball crosses goal-line yes/ no etc. These can be decided by replay evidence which surely must come. Matters of opinion will always be contentious issues and we are stuck with them until the Referee's Association gets it's shit together and does something positive about different training for referees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memmaclub Posted December 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 I have to say the pen vs man city I think is a pen I know there are 10 a game but I would have been shouting for it had it gone the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 That debatable decisions isn't very good. http://www.debatabledecisions.com/debatable-decisions-epl-week-9 Has Suarez's goal as incorrect and Sterling not getting a second yellow as correct. Also says the throw in was pretty obvious it come off a Everton player.. for me it was only obvious in slow mo. The throw in is fortunate, but with a better ref we would have won that game regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideliner Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 just for the record - the ref against Stoke offered us 0 protection against constant fouling and holding by Stoke - Pienaar was manhandled out of contention a number of times and Fellaini and others were playing with Stoke safety belts around them in the box constantly - the ref only issued 1 yellow card the whole game - ......... for ...... wait for it ........ time wasting - many other sides would have received a penalty for the Stoke hand ball in the box - we also had a few lucky escapes like the Fellaini headbutt - all i am recording is yet another poor performance by a ref and other officials in an Everton game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Didn't I read not so long ago the match official had a good game in one of our most recent fixtures. In that there was no major complaints. Begovic got the yellow card, must have been content with a point as the time ticked down. I recall I also felt similar as the game entered it's closing moments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Didn't I read not so long ago the match official had a good game in one of our most recent fixtures. In that there was no major complaints. Begovic got the yellow card, must have been content with a point as the time ticked down. I recall I also felt similar as the game entered it's closing moments. I said it about the ref (Swarbrick) against Fulham away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2012/12/21/100252-32471105/ “While PGMOL chiefs are very happy with officiating so far this season, cautions are down, particularly those for dissent, but the one issue that stands out is holding and blocking at set pieces." Are they taking the piss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Evidently. On average, some of the worst officiating I've seen in a very, very long time. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 How is "Cautions are down" a good thing? Just means Refs are being more Lenient doesn't it? For example, the one booking in the Stoke game which was for Time wasting was a joke. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 I'd rather see more lenient referees, that let innocuous challenges pass and only deal with serious issues or something that actually warrants a caution, rather than some card happy fucksticks waving reds and yellows at all and sundry for even the most innocent of incidents. But Yes, the general performance at times this season has been disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 West Ham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 What a fucking weapon the ref was today. They were never reds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Both teams have reason to feel hard done by. Everton with the dissallowed goal that could have made it a very different game. West Ham for the red that lost them the game Everton with the red which will see us lose Gibson for the next 3 games. What a fucking tool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearthainn Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Shouldn't it be a one game ban only for Gibbo? And that's if we don't appeal successfully of course. Anyway the referee today was possibly the worst I've seen all season, and that's saying something. I appreciate the fact they have a tough job, but it's like they get worse every week. Unless the authorities acknowledge that the level of officiating isn't improving, quite the opposite in fact, there won't be many changes sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) Shouldn't it be a one game ban only for Gibbo? And that's if we don't appeal successfully of course. Anyway the referee today was possibly the worst I've seen all season, and that's saying something. I appreciate the fact they have a tough job, but it's like they get worse every week. Unless the authorities acknowledge that the level of officiating isn't improving, quite the opposite in fact, there won't be many changes sadly. He wasn't the worst, at least he was consistant although his choice to finally brandish a yellow was odd (Nolan's cynical foul should have been the first booking). Moss for QPR away. Unprofessional sending off of Pienaar, blatantly because he didn't like the cut of his jib. He's also the same inconsistant fuck-wit that gave us 4 yellows to WBA's 1, he shouldn't be refereeing at this level ever again, at least not Everton games. Edited December 22, 2012 by pete0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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