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#41 Bill

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Posted 13 Aug 2007 - 14:11

On hindsight it would have been better to post views of each side, but i think most had already seen and heard the Clubs view.
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Posted 13 Aug 2007 - 14:19

Its six of one and half a dozen of the others, Leahy's open letter has been posted on here as well as Wyness's plus his question and answers Video, are they not biased in favour of the yes voters, i think we should take pride in the fact that we show both sides of the Coin, trying to give both sides an equal shout, unlike the Club who are tossing with a two headed Coin.


Licker - you have missed what I am talking about compleately - I am pissed that I was e-mailed directly by 'Toffetalk' asking me to vote a certain way.

(PLEASE NOTE - I HAVE GONE OUT OF MY WHY NOT TO MENTION EITHER YES OR NO VOTE - THE GRIPE I HAVE IS NOTHING TO DO WITH VOTING YES OR NO, CHECK MY POSTS)

I have no problem with both sides of the coin, in fact that is what I am jumping up and down about.

I have been E-MAIL DIRECT by 'Toffeetalk' asking me to vote a certain way - and that is what has pissed me off.

What I am saying is basicaly whoever sent me that e-mail has got the loudest voice on 'Toffeetalk' and that is wrong. Forget the yes - no debate. It about being e-mailed direct a certain point of view.

For the third time - its an abuse of position.
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#43 RuffRob

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Posted 13 Aug 2007 - 14:20

Sorry, last post was written as you posted your Hindsight post.
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Posted 13 Aug 2007 - 14:25

I do understand what you are saying Rob, i'm just trying to defend the poster, who may have thought he was doing right.
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Posted 13 Aug 2007 - 14:53

I think i was the only member not to recieve the email!
but i'm with rob on this, i think as a group we should be unbiased.


I didn't get it either and voiced the same opinion.
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#46 RuffRob

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Posted 13 Aug 2007 - 15:07

You call them a 'poster' - Is the person who sent the e-mail one of the site administrators? Or can anybody e-mail me their views?

Do you know who it was? so they can be asked not to do it again. (I don't care or want to know who it was or anything like that). All I would like to know is that it won't be happening again.
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Posted 13 Aug 2007 - 15:19

Your in danger of getting light headed up on that high horse Rob, it's a forum and if anybody using it decides to use it as a vehicle to portray something they believe in that is up to them. If you dont like that you didnt have to read the email or take any notice of it. You also don't have to use the forum if you feel it's integrity has been damaged by the email.
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Posted 13 Aug 2007 - 15:21

exactly liam, we have the forum for this, we didnt need the email
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Posted 13 Aug 2007 - 15:45

Your in danger of getting light headed up on that high horse Rob, it's a forum and if anybody using it decides to use it as a vehicle to portray something they believe in that is up to them. If you dont like that you didnt have to read the email or take any notice of it. You also don't have to use the forum if you feel it's integrity has been damaged by the email.


Members don't have the facility to circulate mass emails to express their feelings though do they Liam....they simply post them.
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Posted 13 Aug 2007 - 15:51

Your in danger of getting light headed up on that high horse Rob, it's a forum and if anybody using it decides to use it as a vehicle to portray something they believe in that is up to them. If you dont like that you didnt have to read the email or take any notice of it. You also don't have to use the forum if you feel it's integrity has been damaged by the email.



No need to get arsey!

So I take it you think sending out e-mails rather than just posting a topic on the forum if fine then?
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Posted 13 Aug 2007 - 16:04

Can see that it didnt look right to you Rob sent as a personal e'mail, but being a member of the official site i got an email and a copy of the nice glossy brochure sent to me stating the opposite, as i'm sure a lot of other peeps did, but i'm not complaining, i just binned it because it has been splattererd over every issue of the local papers, and in every bit of correspondense sent to me from the site, that was also pressure sales tactics and if you like ...... Spamming.
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#52 StevO

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Posted 13 Aug 2007 - 17:56

the difference with that bill is that the club are biased towards one opinion, we as a group should be impartial.
like i said in the staff room, thats only my opinion on it anyway.
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Posted 13 Aug 2007 - 18:19

Yeah Steve i see your point and Robs also, so i'll take it no further. ;)
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Posted 13 Aug 2007 - 21:34

No need to get arsey!

So I take it you think sending out e-mails rather than just posting a topic on the forum if fine then?


I believe I offered an opinion.

Maybe the email should have been signed with a name and perhaps someone expressing a personal view would be more acceptable as bill said just like the club are doing by every media outlet available to them.
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Posted 14 Aug 2007 - 02:10

Whilst not a fan of the move, I also felt the email Crossed the line of impartiality.

If anything it should have been presented both ways if presented @ all, I was disapointed when received 2 be honest (Not the content) the principal.

Thinkingman's Evertonian's or Impartial Hysteria Pusher's ?

The Forum's are full of opinion's & information regarding just such, as they should be.

Dont we owe it to our moniker, ( regardless of thought or emotion) to @ least attempt to honour that much ?

Just a humble opinion & had 2 throw me threpence worth in as it did bother.
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Posted 14 Aug 2007 - 07:46

As I wrote in the Original post " A thought provoking email" and thats what it certainly was. Whether you for or against YES or NO, this is your forum to give your opinion.

The email was intended to provoke thought, which it obviously has.

Im suprised at people getting annoyed at the receipt of an email from a privately owned forum! At the end of the day its not a democracy, or am I wrong?
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Posted 14 Aug 2007 - 08:46

I really enjoy toffeetalk - for thinking Evertonian's, and very much appriciate all the work that must go on behind the scenes.

I wasn't going to start a topic dedicated to "my disapointment of having recived a bias e-mail". However, as a topic on it was open, I felt I had to raise the point.

I do feel the integrty of the site has been slightly damaged by the e-mail (and reading other replies, I would say a fair few others also felt a little let down by it).

Also a bit disapoainted to be told "You also don't have to use the forum if you feel it's integrity has been damaged by the e-mail" That's not an opinion - that's basically telling me to like it or lump it.

If I don't voice my opinion, then how would you know that I wasn't happy at getting sent opinions to my personnal e-mail rather than just reading them on the forum as per the norm.
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Posted 14 Aug 2007 - 11:03

this is your forum to give your opinion.


I believe this to be true, although some dont like other peoples opinions and cant accept them

I think your comments will be noted and I understand (in hindsight) the bias of it was not right.

However, I think that the powerful and ongoing propaganda protruding from Everton needed some balance and the owner of the sight used his power to send an opposing view, rightly or wrongly thats what happened

Im sure any future emails will be of an informative and advertorial nature rather than a direct opinion
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