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The UEFA Cup 2007-08 is the 50th edition of the European UEFA Cup football club tournament. The final match will be played at City of Manchester Stadium, Manchester, England on May 14, 2008. The first qualifying games will be played on July 19, 2007 and the main tournament will start 20 September 2007. A total of 123 football clubs will participate in the tournament (including its qualifying rounds).

 

One to four clubs will be represented per European football nation, depending on the UEFA coefficients. One new nation will enter their second-placed football team: Montenegro.

 

Teams

 

All the teams that will definitely be competing are listed below, ordered by seeding.

 

First Round

 

The following teams are certain to play in the first round proper.

  • Germany Bayern Munich
     
  • Netherlands Ajax or AZ Alkmaar
     
  • Greece Panathinaikos
     
  • Germany Bayer Leverkusen
     
  • England Tottenham Hotspur
     
  • Netherlands Heerenveen
     
  • England Bolton Wanderers
     
  • Portugal Sporting Braga
     
  • England Everton
     
  • Italy Empoli
     
  • Greece Panionios
     
  • Netherlands FC Groningen
     
  • Germany Nürnberg
     
  • Portugal Belenenses
     
  • Greece Aris Thessaloniki
     
  • Netherlands Twente
     
  • Greece Larisa

Second Qualifying Round

 

The following teams are certain to qualify for either the second qualifying round or first round proper.

 

  • Russia Lokomotiv Moscow
     
  • Turkey Galatasaray
     
  • Belgium Standard Liège
     
  • Scotland Dunfermline Athletic

The following team is certain to compete in the second qualifying round.

 

  • Israel Hapoel Tel Aviv

First Qualifying Round

 

The following team is certain to qualify for either the first or second qualifying round.

  • Bulgaria CSKA Sofia
     
  • Bulgaria Litex Lovech
     
  • Israel Maccabi Tel Aviv
     
  • Bulgaria Lokomotiv Sofia
     
  • Turkey Kayseri Erciyesspor
     
  • Israel Maccabi Netanya

The following teams are certain to play in the first qualifying round.

  • Serbia Partizan Belgrade
     
  • Austria Austria Vienna
     
  • Denmark Odense
     
  • Slovakia FC Artmedia Bratislava
     
  • Poland Groclin Grodzisk
     
  • Norway Vålerenga
     
  • Croatia Hajduk Split
     
  • Norway Fredrikstad
     
  • Norway Brann
     
  • Norway Lillestrøm
     
  • Serbia Vojvodina
     
  • Cyprus Anorthosis Famagusta
     
  • Hungary Budapest Honvéd
     
  • Sweden AIK Solna
     
  • Croatia Slaven Belupo
     
  • Cyprus Omonia Nicosia
     
  • Sweden Helsingborg
     
  • Sweden BK Häcken
     
  • Finland MyPa
     
  • Moldova Zimbru Chişinău
     
  • Slovakia Zlaté Moravce
     
  • Latvia Liepājas Metalurgs
     
  • Latvia Skonto Riga
     
  • Lithuania Sūduva
     
  • Lithuania Ekranas
     
  • Finland HJK Helsinki
     
  • Finland Haka
     
  • Republic of Ireland Drogheda United
     
  • Republic of Ireland St Patrick's Athletic
     
  • Liechtenstein Vaduz
     
  • Iceland Keflavík
     
  • Iceland Knattspyrnufélag Reykjavíkur
     
  • Belarus Dinamo Minsk
     
  • Belarus Dinamo Brest
     
  • Albania Besa Kavajë
     
  • Albania Teuta
     
  • Estonia Narva JK Trans
     
  • Estonia Flora Tallinn
     
  • Armenia Benants
     
  • Armenia MIKA
     
  • Kazakhstan Almaty
     
  • Kazakhstan Aktobe
     
  • Northern Ireland Glentoran
     
  • Northern Ireland Dungannon Swifts
     
  • Wales Carmarthen Town
     
  • Wales Rhyl
     
  • Faroe Islands B36 Tórshavn
     
  • Faroe Islands EB/Streymur
     
  • Malta Sliema Wanderers
     
  • Andorra Santa Coloma

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You'd have to say at this stage that Bayern Munich would be the team to beat :o . When was the last time they didn't qualify for the Champs League? Galatasaray best avoided until the late stages also....be nice to win the 50th one though, shame the final's not somewhere a bit more interesting, Rotterdam would have been nice....100% record there :lol: !

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A few more teams to add

 

Italy Fiorentina (1st round)

Italy Palermo (1st round)

Portugal Pacos de Ferreira (1st round)

Scotland Aberdeen (2QR OR 1st round)

 

There's a fan's website that keeps up-to-date info on who has qualified for what competitions out of every league in Europe. If you can decipher all the abbreviations he uses, it's at http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/qual2007.html

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You'd have to say at this stage that Bayern Munich would be the team to beat :o . When was the last time they didn't qualify for the Champs League? Galatasaray best avoided until the late stages also....be nice to win the 50th one though, shame the final's not somewhere a bit more interesting, Rotterdam would have been nice....100% record there :lol: !

Does the fact that we are seeded mean we will play one of the qualifying teams in the first round?

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Does the fact that we are seeded mean we will play one of the qualifying teams in the first round?

 

Not neccessarily, but we will play one of the lowest forty ranked sides.

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Not neccessarily, but we will play one of the lowest forty ranked sides.

 

 

There are 50 teams in the first round, so would guess it will be one of them wouldnt it??????????????????????????

 

Long way off yet though, blood long summer this is already

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After the qualifying rounds, when you add in the teams (us included) who go straight in at round one there will be eighty teams in total playing for forty places in the group stages. We, as one of the top forty ranked, will play one of the bottom forty ranked....if I understand it correctly :unsure: .

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After the qualifying rounds, when you add in the teams (us included) who go straight in at round one there will be eighty teams in total playing for forty places in the group stages. We, as one of the top forty ranked, will play one of the bottom forty ranked....if I understand it correctly :unsure: .

 

 

AHA, thats cleard it up, we wont be seeing any of the big boys, thats all im arsed about, im sure there will be a loophole somewhere and we get the hardest fooking draw ever thought posible and have to play Bayerm

 

Ever the Evertonian optomist

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AHA, thats cleard it up, we wont be seeing any of the big boys, thats all im arsed about, im sure there will be a loophole somewhere and we get the hardest fooking draw ever thought posible and have to play Bayerm

 

Ever the Evertonian optomist

Quite fancy a trip to Munich though :)

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Save Bayern Munich for the semi final - 23 years on!

 

Lets just make sure we get to the group stage and go from there.

 

I am sure that after 2 years ago, there will be no such mistakes this time..

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Save Bayern Munich for the semi final - 23 years on!

 

Lets just make sure we get to the group stage and go from there.

 

I am sure that after 2 years ago, there will be no such mistakes this time..

 

 

Bloody hell, that could be on that semi

 

Role on Ch5 on a thursday night

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We are well over due a European success. Bring on Rapid Vienna.

 

ATB

 

Mac

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Quite fancy a trip to Munich though :)

 

 

lot of english speaking people around munich as its home to the bavarian international school, which one of my mates from uni has been too.

 

Having seen tottenham this year i reckon we can get at least as far as they did because our stadium is more imposing.

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Our first eleven is capable of winning the thing, no question at all, but to do that we'd have to play an extra fifteen games. Any sort of run in the domestic cups and you're pushing sixty games for the season...even though DM could, and probably should imo, play a weakened team in the Carling Cup )if that's what it's called next year). Need more numbers, more quality, luck with injuries and luck with the games the fixture computer gives us on the week-ends after Thursday night games. We can beat anyone on our day in a single game so certainly I think we can win it....but then so can probably about ten other sides.

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Our first eleven is capable of winning the thing, no question at all, but to do that we'd have to play an extra fifteen games. Any sort of run in the domestic cups and you're pushing sixty games for the season...even though DM could, and probably should imo, play a weakened team in the Carling Cup )if that's what it's called next year). Need more numbers, more quality, luck with injuries and luck with the games the fixture computer gives us on the week-ends after Thursday night games. We can beat anyone on our day in a single game so certainly I think we can win it....but then so can probably about ten other sides.

 

 

Too true Mike, we need lots to go our way, but I think Mr Moyes understands we need numbers, Im certain of that, we've been sailing too close to the wind and getting away with it

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Quite fancy a trip to Munich though :)
My really good friend is playing on the reserve squad for Munich 1860. If I somehow could afford a cheap plane ticket he would let me stay with him. Unfortunately it would most likely interfere with school.

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Lots of action this weekend that's going to go a long way towards fleshing out the UEFA Cup field

 

Today: another round of fixtures in Spain and Ukraine, last day of the season in France, Serbia, and Poland, Cup finals in Belgium and Romania (the latter of which will decide whether Rapid Bucharest is joining us in the first round again or packing off to the Intertoto Cup)

 

Tomorrow: 2nd leg of the Dutch playoff between Ajax and Alkmaar (winner goes to the Champions League, loser goes to the UEFA Cup), Cup final in Russia

 

Monday: last day of the season in the Czech Republic, Cup final in Switzerland

 

All 11 of those countries have one or more UEFA Cup berths still up for grabs

 

Several other leagues are finishing their seasons this weekend but have only Intertoto spots left to play for (meaning potential UEFA Cup competitors for us down the road), including Italy, Israel, Bulgaria, and Hungary

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(the latter of which will decide whether Rapid Bucharest is joining us in the first round again or packing off to the Intertoto Cup)

 

 

Thanks for that JD...except it was Dinamo Bucharest we played in 2005 (qualified for the Champs league this year), not Rapid.

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Actually, all three of the Bucharest triplets (Dinamo, Rapid, and Steaua) were in the first round of the UEFA Cup that year (and all three advanced to the group stages too), so technically what I said was true - they would be joining us "in the first round" again. But obviously that wasn't what I meant, and you're right. Rapid beat Feyenoord in the first round, not us. Too many teams from Bucharest, they're almost as bad as teams from Moscow for getting all jumbled up in my head. :rolleyes:

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High drama in France today. Lens and Bordeaux both lose, and Rennes gives up a game-tying goal to Lille at the death, which allows Toulouse to jump from 6th all the way to 3rd and steal the last Champions' League spot. Toulouse finishes the season with 58 points, Lens, Bordeaux, Rennes, and Sochaux all finish tied for fourth with 57 points.

 

Rennes would've finished third on 59 points and taken the UCL spot if they hadn't conceded that goal, but they still go to the UEFA Cup on GD, and so do Bordeaux and Sochaux as France's two Cup winners this year. Lens, who started the day in third, is stuck with the Intertoto Cup.

 

I bet there will probably be some controversy after the fact, because the Toulouse-Nantes match was abandoned last weekend with the score still 0-0 when the Nantes fans invaded the pitch, and on Thursday the French professional league elected to declare it a forfeit by Nantes and award Toulouse all three points instead of just one. Without those two extra points, Rennes goes to the UCL despite the draw and Lens goes to the UEFA Cup, and Toulouse either goes to the Intertoto Cup or goes home.

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Good grief that's amazing....vaguely following what was going on because my brother lives just outside Toulouse so a game against them would be ideal for me but they've been on a very poor run recently and I thought they'd blown all chance except maybe Intertoto. Saw they went 1-0 down at home to Bordeuax today so gave up on it.

 

The league table I have still has them finishing seventh though (LINK), obviously the extra two points not added...is it confirmed?

 

The BBC has Toulouse in third though (LINK)....good stuff!

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Good grief, just read this as a comment on the official site...

 

VIRTUALLY ASSURED OF SEEDING After this weekend's European games/Cup Finals the latest sit rep on Everton and the UEFA Cup as follows: 18th (or 19th) of 32 automatic qualifiers - dependent on the Czech Cup Final. 18th or 19th A further (possible) 5 or 6 qualifiers from the UEFA Cup Qualifiers may outrank Everton 23rd (or better/lower) to 25th Intertoto - a further (possible) 4 or 5 may qualify for the UEFA Cup Blackburn Rovers RC Lens or the possible Ukraine Qualifier (who would meet each other) Hamburger SV or possible Swiss Qualifier (who would meet each other) Maccabi Haifa or possibly the Spanish Qualifier (who would meet each other) Czech Republic (if Slavia Praha become their entry) The lowest Everton's Ranking could possible drop BEFORE taking into account the Champions League 3rd QR losers is therefore 27th (or lower) to 30th Remainder from Champions League 3rd Qualifying Rd - a further 6 (or 7) potentially could QUALIFY and then lose to seeded teams - some "seeded" teams could lose as well. The draw for the CL 3rd Rd will be (and note some tasty opps for LFC perhaps): Seeded: LFC Arsenal CL3-4 Esp Benfica Ajax Werder Bremen Celtic Steaua Bucuresti ** Lazio Roma Glasgow Rangers ** Shakhtar Donetsk (**) Besiktas ** Anderlecht CL3-4 Esp Dinamo Kiev (**) Levski Sofia ** Unseeded: Sparta Praha ** Fenerbahçe AEK Athens Dinamo Bucuresti Rosenborg BK ** Spartak Moscow Red Star Belgrade ** Toulouse FC FC København ** Dinamo Zagreb * Racing Genk ** CL1-2 (**) Cze DVSC Debrecen ** FC Zürich FC Salzburg ** APOEL Nicosia * * and ** seeded to progress from Rds 1 and 2 (or the team that replaces them will inherit that seeding for the 3rd round draw ONLY but not subsequently for the UEFA Cup) The six teams in bold are ranked above Everton and projected to lose to the seeded teams in the CL3rd The assumption is that these 6 will lose, dropping Everton's rank to 33rd (or better) to 36th (worst) Therefore - the only way Everton would not be seeded would be - all of the above possible events happening and 5 further SEEDED teams in the Champions League 3rd Rd losing BUT NOT TO any of the aforementioned higher ranking unseeded teams - so it's VIRTUALLY CERTAIN WE WILL BE SEEDED

 

Hope that's clear then :o .

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Lemme try to simplify that a little.

 

In the comprehensive European-wide club rankings, Everton's point total puts them right about #100 on the list. However, half the teams ahead of us can be thrown out right away: either they are already qualified for the Champions' League group stages, or they did not qualify for European football at all this year.

 

That leaves about 52-53 teams who could POTENTIALLY end up in the UEFA Cup first round who have more points than we do - but not all of them will make it. 17-18 of them will for certain because they've locked up spots in the first round field like we have, but the other 35 or so are going to be involved in CL qualifying, Intertoto qualifying, and the earlier qualifying rounds of the UEFA Cup that we're skipping. Some of them will be eliminated early, some of them (as that article noted) will probably eliminate each other, and some will qualify for the Champions League and avoid the UEFA Cup entirely.

 

The bottom line is that it isn't mathematically impossible for us to get bumped into the bottom half of the first round bracket, but it is extremely unlikely.

 

Once all the fields are set, I'll post the complete list of the 50-odd teams ahead of us in line and what competitions they are in.

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The first odds....

 

Bayern Munich..9/2

Spurs..............12/1

Fiorentina.........16/1

Leverkusen.......20/1

AZ Alkmaar.......20/1

Everton.............25/1

Palermo.............25/1

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well B.Munich just signed luca toni for £7.5mil last night so they have one of the best strikers in the competition playing for them now.

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bayern must be favs to win it surely?

swienstiger (spelling)

lahm

luca toni

and now ribery all fantastic players who would walk into any squad.

 

i still have belief we will do it :D

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We fucked up last time, this time there can be no mistakes.

 

25/1 I will have a cheeky tenner on that.

 

ATB

 

Mac

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:o looks like villareal could be heading into europe

 

bring them on please! i want the rematch we would kill them this time round :devil:

 

Actually they're almost definitely bound for Europe one way or another. They're in 7th right now, which is the Intertoto Cup slot, but only two points out of fifth. They're too far back to make the Champions League, but the only team behind them that could keep them from getting an Intertoto bid at the very minimum is Recreativo Huelva, the 9th place team. But RH is six points back with two to play, so they'd have to win both of their remaining games and Villareal would have to lose both of theirs for Villareal to get knocked out. Getafe in 8th is irrelevant. They've already secured a UEFA Cup spot simply by virtue of making it to Spain's FA Cup final, so where they finish won't affect Villareal one way or the other.

 

That said, Spain got probably the toughest draw in the Intertoto Cup of any country that gets a bye to the last round. Based on how the ping pong balls shook out, Spain's qualifier gets the survivor of the Israel/Romania/Montenegro bracket. That means that while that while teams like Sampdoria, Lens, and Blackburn get to feast on overmatched opponents in their Intertoto games, it's probably 99% certain that Villareal (or whoever gets that slot from Spain) will end up playing Maccabi Haifa, who has more European qualifying points than half the teams in La Liga.

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Intertoto Cup play is now finished, with 11 teams advancing to the second Qualifying round of the UEFA Cup. The advancing teams are:

 

Lens

Blackburn

Hamburg

Sampdoria

Atletico Madrid

Uniao de Leiria (Portugal)

Otelul Galati (Romania)

Rapid Vienna

Aalborg (Denmark)

Hammarby (Sweden)

Tobol Kustanai (Kazakhstan)

 

The first five of those have more European qualifying points than we do - while we're still in excellent shape for getting a seeded spot in the first round (and avoiding an unwelcome early meeting with Bayern or Villareal), it would help if one or two of those five teams would lose in this next qualifying round. Atletico Madrid almost did us that favor in the Intertoto - they needed the away goals rule to knock out some Romanian team that I'd never heard of before.

 

ETA: Oh, and Partizan Belgrade (who also had more European points than us) just got thrown out of this year's UEFA Cup and banned from Europe for the next two years because of crowd trouble in their Qualifying Round 1 match. Apparently they've had fan incidents in something like 25 of their last 31 European matches, and UEFA had finally had enough - it's gotten so bad, in fact, that the club isn't even planning to appeal the decision.

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I no this sounds bad coming from a Everton fan but i want Liverpool to go trough the group stages. You may think it sounds glory hunterish but if Liverpool lose to Tolouse or get third in the Group stage they will go to the UEFA Cup and possibly win it and its more chance for silverwear and they may stop Everton from possibly winning it which we dont want :mad:

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