Oztoffee

Already been covered Matt. 1. The losing teams ribbons 2. The band of the Coldstream Guards I thought the Sunderland, Brooking, Villa one was a really good and clever question.

This thread has really polarised the fans. The only thing I can add is this, " who was the last Everton player to score 15 in a season, and when?" This is a real question too by the way, 'cos I've really no idea. Probably Latchford in the 18th century :I surrender: Gives some idea of how important he'd be I guess.

Sunderland, Brooking, Villa....huh? Sorry to be an old fart, but I don't get it. Please enlighten me.

When I were a lad a lot of blokes used to take newcomers in the pub for a ride by asking what seemed to be easy questions but were actually very odd and sometimes too hard. Winner got a pint of Higsons Brown, needless to say the newcomers always ended up paying. Questions like these....remember these were 50 years ago! 1. What is taken to every Cup Final but never used? 2. Who played for both sides in the 1959 Cup Final? If you know the answers please feel free to post them. Otherwise add your own experiences of these off-the-cuff pub quizzes.

Wow, a real curly one! Would never have thought of that. However I like my reason better if only because I'm an egotistical bastard. Congrats!

Yes, can't score an own goal direct from a goal kick. As the ball passed out of the area and was in play, after the ball crossed the line into the goal the way to restart would be a corner to the opposing team. However, if the 'keeper tried to prevent a goal but only succeeded in helping it in, the restart would be an indirect free kick as the goalkeeper had played the ball twice. Had the ball not passed out of the area the game would be restarted by retaking the goal kick as the ball was never deemed to be in play.

Sorry guys my question about goalkicks etc was incorrect. I was thinking about 3 other things at the same time. It should have read 'a huge headwind' and 'back over the players and into the kicker's own goal'. Just to confuse the whole thing...the ball passed out of the penalty area before being blown back so was definitely in play. Sorry again about the confusion.

Aha! Methinks the defender had left the field previously because of injury and had come back on without the ref's permission. Either that, or he was a sub waiting to come on.....maybe

This really is a curly one Cornish. Love to see what the rule is.

Nope!

Or this one? The 'keeper takes a goalkick with a massive following wind. The ball sails over all the players into the opposing goal area, the bounce deceives the 'keeper and the ball goes over the goal line. How do you restart the game? A relatively common occurrence in Wellington NZ with high winds and short pitches.

How about this one? A defender and the 'keeper (of the same team) argue about the speed of the 'keeper's distribution when in play. During the argument, the defender strikes at the 'keeper, misses and dislodges the ball from the 'keeper's grasp. An attacker seizes on the opportunity and takes a shot, but misses and the ball goes over the goal line wide of the goal. How do you restart the game?

Is this a real rule or is it the consequence of an interpretation? Can't think of a rule that prevents what you are stating. Sorry to be pedantic. But why change the habits of a lifetime? :dont know:

Out of the loop down under. Heard so little of what England's papers and TV have to say. What does the UK media have to say about the whole thing? Is it managerial, team selection, tactics or are we just not good enough? I suppose the Italian and Spanish media are asking questions too, let alone the Porto's. What's the general consensus among Toffetalkers?

Just as a thought, perhaps we should have a show of hands on here as to where folks think would be the ideal position for a stadium and why? Forget Goodison of course. Havn't been down there since the early70's but there were acres and acres (and acres) of land covered with derelict factories and warehouses down the riverside of Scotland Road and along the waterfront area basically all the way to Bankhall and Oriel Rd in Bootle and beyond. Surely there is still so much of the same sort of space available if not there then elsewhere in the region that wouldn't cost an arm and a leg to buy. What are your thoughts as to where and why? Let's not get caught up in finances, this is just to find out where folks would prefer to have a new stadium.

Cahill scored a couple of blinders in Brazil and another belter that was ruled offside. Was he good enough for another season at Goodison? Maybe a return in a coaching position would be suitable?

Wouldn't matter really. Only plays half a season because he's banned for the rest.

I found some Heinz Salad Cream in an English shop here a while back. Hadn't had it since Pontius was a pilot. I thought I'd remembered it to be great....big mistake! Must be that your tastes change as you get older.....I still like pear drops and Midget Gems though.

Not too upset by the news in all honesty. So much promise that turned out to a damp squib.

Is this 'The Pointless Thread' thread? Who the hell wants him back anyway?

WTF? I know I've been away a long time, but whatever happened to chips and gravy? Even curry sauce isn't so bad, but chips and Mayo?

Who is likely to upset the applecart do you reckon? Netherlands or Mexico are my picks. Outsiders?.....definitely Japan!

I remember my old man saying that Albert Dunlop was the finest "uncapped 'keeper" in England and deserved to play. I could never as a kid understand this as I knew that Dunlop always wore a cap!

Great! So what's stopping us doing the same? Is it just money? Just had a look at the age of EPL grounds. Goodison Park is only one of many built in the late 1800's/early 1900's. In fact Stamford Bridge, St James' Park and Anfield are older than Goodison. Villa Park, White Hart Lane and Craven Cottage are much as they were when they were built although slightly younger. If the World Cup ever came back to England a repeat of 1966 groupings at various existing grounds would be totally different. Probably only Old Trafford would get games. Until I looked it up, I wasn't aware that White City in London actually hosted one match! Unbelievable! There has been a distinct lack of investment in facilities in England compared to the rest of Europe. Maybe we have paid too much for players, who knows? Point of all this of course is that all the income (in Everton's case) since 1892 has gone somewhere, but where? Certainly not into facilities. Newish UK grounds like Swansea, Brighton, Cardiff, Wigan, Bolton, Stoke, Hull.......the list goes on.......these are not generally known as top flight clubs. The money can only come from good management and many on here have been disparaging about the manner in which Everton has been run for many years. Maybe we are really only now reaping the rewards of many years of malpractice. The cheaper option obviously is to redevelop Goodison. But can it be done?

Problem is...there may eventually be no other options. But how did the likes of Pride Park, Britannia Stadium, Liberty Stadium, Reebok, St Mary's get built? These are 'lesser' teams with newer stadiums but generally lower support than Everton. Where did the cash come from........how did they get their respective city councils to agree on sites? In a nutshell, are we doing something wrong, or is it just a matter of money?