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It’s ironic if we don’t get anymore points Brentford could save our lives by beating Leeds. 

15 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said:

And they didn't even play the full 3

City were so unlucky and a little brain dead they should have kept hold of the ball more once in front. 

4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

https://www.teamtalk.com/everton/adama-traore-touted-replace-richarlison-lampard-secret-weapon-negotiations

We should go nowhere near him.

I agree he’s not very good I’ll be disappointed in Thelwell if we sign him. 

42 minutes ago, FairWooney said:

LOL! 

I just try to look at things objectively rather than purely with my heart!

I don't disagree that bad decisions are made, that they'd have given it had it been at the other end of the pitch or that Liverpool and certain other teams get much more decisions than other teams but that doesn't mean that I can't look at our own decisions and objectively say that i'm not sure I'd have given it.

If I was the ref I'd have gone straight for VAR because it was clearly a close call that needed further inspection.  That's the whole point of having VAR.

The whole point of VAR is it’s not working you can’t just use it when it suits and it’s wrong when some faceless bods decide who wins a 50/50 decision the whole system is corrupt. 

On 27/04/2022 at 09:24, FairWooney said:

He does go down quite a lot but he does also win quite a lot of fouls.

If your saying neither are getting given anything, Gordon has won 1 penalty and is the 11th most fouled player in the league.  Richarlison is the 3rd most fouled player in the league.

I don't however have any stats on how the number of times they are given a foul compares to the number of times they hit the deck!  (In Richarlison's case I imagine he probably goes down about 5 times per game whilst getting given 2.4 fouls per game.

 

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I was undecided on a foul and I'd say it could have been a penalty but I'd be inclined to say not.

This is the a frame or 2 before Gordon has his "foot stood on".

Gordon has moved his foot across and infront of Matip, they are both already through a step here and Gordon's foot comes down underneath Matip's.  Clearly this only happens because Gordon has put his leg across as 2 right legs wouldn't naturally come together no matter how close you are running together. 

That's not me saying that he's necessarily deliberately played for the foul but it is a coming together that you can't fault the defender for.

Some would say from the image that he's "holding" Gordon and that he shoved him but I don't really see that, yeah he has his arm on him but no more than the average situation where 2 players are running.  He doesn't shove him, Gordon is going down as soon as he gets Matip's foot on his.  Matip may have given a bit of a push on the way as his arm came off Gordon but that was about it.

Would it have been given a foul in the middle of the pitch?  PROBABLY

Should it have been referred to VAR for a check?  DEFINITELY

The ref as you can see was in a good position but he can't see the angle that we are seeing so this is exactly the kind of thing that should go to VAR.  The ref can see close contact and a player going down in the box, doesn't think it's a pen but with a minute or two's check can be completely sure by seeing all angles.

I don't believe he would have given it after a VAR check but at least it would have been rightly considered.

Are you also WOKE I’m so glad you don’t ref our games the fact it’s now 46/47 games since Liverpool had a penalty given against them this is corruption at its best we had 1 corner the ref went over to see if the ball was in the quadrant I’ve never ever seen a ref do this why has he done this he never checked 1 of Liverpools 13 does this not make you think something is wrong with officials Atwell has been involved in a few decisions against us.  

It’s strange Gordon is now a marked man according to all the media and pundits I’ve only seen him go down a couple of times and he’s never been  given anything it’s exactly the same with Richarleson but no one ever says he gets battered week in week out. 

7 minutes ago, Bailey said:

The jury is still out for me on Lampard.

There are some things I like and some things I don't. I thought he was probably a bit naive early on in his time here but he seems to have realised what is needed now.

My biggest issue at the moment is the lack of chances. Since he has come in, the only game we have comfortably out-created the opposition was the Leeds game. The only times we have achieved a higher xG than the opposition are the Leeds, Burnley (2 penalties) and Leicester games.

We don't have the greatest finishers in the world either so we need to start creating more chances.

You can only work with the players you have and we’ve been decimated with injury’s and suspension. 

2 hours ago, Hafnia said:

palace vs leeds I wasnt so sure.  Leeds did ride their luck a bit but never looked like getting a win at all.

Leeds have had some very fortunate fixtures for the new manager which seems to be giving his some swagger.....  we seen how quick their confidence got shattered when they lose a game or two.  They are playing a rampant Man City side next - that could mentally destroy them,

 

I hope your right. 

2 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

they don't need to collapse - their next 3 games just need to go as they "should" which would mean they get 0 points.

If that happens and you would not get amazing odds on Leeds losing to Man City, Chelsea and Arsenal then if we play like our survival depends on it then it will go to last game of the season.

 

We’ve already seen that the last 3 games of teams in relegation haven’t gone the way you expect let’s be honest Palace should beat Leeds and Burnley have gone from strength to strength. 

1 hour ago, Btay said:

Leeds are the team we can most likely get after. If by some chance we can get a win at chelsea we could put them under serious pressure over the coming games. 

Unless Leeds collapse I think it’s just between us and Burnley. 
we have to win our home games and possibly 1 away I’m not sure it’s possible. 

I don’t get this putting all the blame on Moshiri yes his appointment with Benitez was a catastrophe waiting to happen but prior to that the managers we employed were awful in the transfer market. 
koeman was a disaster. 
I still say the best coach was silver and the players got him sacked. 

7 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

He's going to Bayern.

As it stands we won’t be signing any top players. 

2 hours ago, Shukes said:

Ahh couldn’t see it where I stood, looked like they just came together touched and he fell. I haven’t saw it on TV yet so did t see that bit.

Touched are you serious he also pushes him with his left arm Matip is nowhere near the ball ?

It’s no wonder we never got a penalty I’ve just watched Stuart Attwells performance against Chelsea he should have sent Keita off twice and disallowed Lukaku’s goal but even more concerning to me was the linesman puts his flag up for offside when it was that tight it had to go to VAR. 
VAR will decide who wins the league the word factual is being used by Dermot Gallagher to say it’s offside so no argument if VAR says it’s offside it’s offside it certainly is corrupt. 

On 08/02/2022 at 09:26, Romey 1878 said:

He'll probably play for us before Patterson does at this rate .

He will possibly end up at Manchester United 

9 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2022/04/25/nottingham-forest-brennan-johnson-everton-newcastle/

Any young player will surely pick Newcastle now over Everton 2 teams going in exactly the opposite direction to be honest I’m not sure he’ll be as good in the premier I thought he was poor against Liverpool there was far better players in that forest side. 

It’s got to be 4-4-2 today I can see Holgate and Keane back in rest Mina save him for Chelsea 

On 23/04/2022 at 10:22, MikeO said:

I wouldn't, not because of any potential hostility but because I wouldn't want to be laughed at.

There will be hostility today be careful walking that walk to the away end. 

Delph to retire at end of season. 
Branthwaite to move close season apparently we’ve already had offers. 

On 15/04/2022 at 13:09, Hafnia said:

 

loving all this change. Very highly regarded.  Had strong vibes that Dunc wasn’t fully enthralled after the man United game.  I do read into things but I strongly suspect there is wholesale changes being made.

 

 

 

I think big Dunc will leave in the summer he looks out of place now no doubt Thelwell will make that decision. 

I went for Mykolenko I had my doubts about a few games ago but is really settling in now his last 3 games he’s been excellent. 

Anthony has bought himself a house in Formby so I don’t think he will be leaving any time soon. 

4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

 

This change was long overdue it's known that some young players didn't get on with him which can't be good for the club.

39 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

Is it Danny mills son? I recall mills saying stuff around Thierry small having a bad attitude…. Must be linked . 

It is Danny Mills son and he was playing right back instead of right mid I like him that much I don't see the need to keep Kenny.

This lad needs to be given a decent contract if he hasn’t already got one. 
each time I’ve seen him he’s been excellent whether it’s right mid or right back he has very good ability and can certainly score a goal.