I think its very easy to look at the likes of Cleverley and Rodwell and think "not all that, can't hack it, over rated at a young age etc etc"
Some young players are often over burdened with "tags" and find themselves in a position where they have gone from youth team star to a player the fans are looking to replace an experienced campaigner.
I look at Barkley and think "what would have happened to him if Martinez never got hold of him" - he was on a down hill spiral, a player who looked like he may end up in league one due to "incorrect man management for his type of footballing personality" - shall we say. Lets be honest even with a great season for Everton, Hodgson proved that certain managers just aren't right for certain players.
I also look at players like Arteta, Pienaar, Gibson, who just needed that move to a "family atmosphere" club and to play in front of fans who will give them love if they give us commitment.
I honestly believe there is a player there in Rodwell, just like I believe so in Cleverley. The club that gets them and taps into that potential will get £20m worth of talent on the cheap. I also believe that to be the case with Danny Welbeck, but I don't want to send the forum into meltdown - i've had a long hard look at him and I honestly feel that with some specific coaching on his decision making and help with composure he can be a very good player. As an athlete he is very gifted.
If we had a cautious manager I would not be in for these players - we don't though, we have a manager who is a very clever psychologist and motivator - look what he did with Callum McManaman and Maloney - players who are very much "confidence players".
This is the difference between Moyes and Martinez for me. Give Moyes a player with limited ability and he will relish getting 100% effort and discipline. Give Martinez a player with plenty of talent and he will get them playing with 100% confidence and freedom.
Both have their merits, but the latter is what wins trophies.