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I wouldn't pay for him, to be honest I wouldn't lose too much sleep if we didn't get him on a free, looks an arrogant prick like his old man.

Based on what I hear he needs a pre season and a little bit of culturing to our way. He's been out of shape and there seems to be a need to address his mindset as such. Players like him could upset the applecart a little by joining mid season. Happy to get him on a free, but needs integrating to the squad.

At which stage of the bribery process, I mean bidding process did those fat cats at fifa consider factors such as heat? Have they even considered the culture for visiting fans etc?

If they fine him he can take it out of the £100k he was paid by us whilst working for the mancs.

He demonstrates a behaviour that make great leaders, the ability to influence a person's mind so much that they can't think of an alternative argument... History has seen this with horrible consequences, used positively it's an amazing attribute.

I told a gay friend, "I can look at a bloke and admire his looks and happily be comfortable with that at a level some would question themselves". His response "I look at the odd woman and find her attractive, quite comfortable that I will still be gay" That's the problem with the attitude towards gay people, like anything there is a spectrum. Gay people prefer their own sex to the opposite from one degree to another. Half the people with unease towards gay people often find it difficult to accept the complexity of sexuality. An American beauty captured that one perfectly.

It hasn't been like this for quite some time... He gets us, it's like he has read forums, been in the stands, was watching us win leagues... I love the man.

I would be tempted to boycott it... Complete joke. It should never have been awarded to them in the first place.

One day this will all be as irrelevant as it should be... Gonna need a few more to come out first.

I hope he can come back, I just don't see it, but yeah lukaku needs a bit of a push.

I think the reality is a team that won the league by 11 points who were 15 points to the better this time last season can't be weakened so much by adding one player in... I think Moyes and the new backroom staff is the determining factor. Agree regarding Martinez, his last games utilised 4 players he brought in. This excludes lukaku and Deulofeu.

Wirral Grammar boy eh! John Ebbrell is probably the only Everton player I've met who recognises me and stops to chat. A proper nice bloke. He was so good as a young lad, played for a youth team I started out for... Eastham blades. His goalscoring record was phenomenal, off he went to lilleshall. He was on the trajectory to be an England regular, I think if managed differently he could have been a more complete box to box midfielder rather than a defensive mid. Back to Moyes, here's sahas view.http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-saha-man-united-fans-should-get-used-moyes-defensive-tactics-14010874695

When I see this, I have to review my original comment lol

Whooaaaa, an hour and a half interview... We are a forum not the daily mail. If someone wants to post a snippet it deserves context. Unless of course some of us are brave enough to provide our employers with a balanced critique less than 6 months after being given a job. I am interested in Martinez football philosophies, not soundbites to keep favour with the chairman. Bill did great getting him in, lets see if he can keep the manager content. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas, Martinez is going to make the right pro kenwright sounds, it's hardly sensational stuff. Theres a long way to go in their relationship, lets not think bill has suddenly become chairman of the year because Martinez has been positive about him. Lets be honest, Martinez would find something positive to say about a warm pint of Chang and a £3 sausage roll.

He's a £7m footballer. Free... No brainer. Ince, likewise.

Fair play to him, could he have come out whilst playing???

Have a look at some of the previous articles written by Royle blue Mersey "Everton should look at £50m bid for Barkley" "we aren't any better just more lucky".... Some of them just contradictory as time goes on.

You must stop using abstract soundbites to build a whole case. Being a football manager is massively political and you don't know what his long game is. Psychologically what he is doing is very smart and no different to what I would do. I worked with someone once who was not very cooperative, my tactic was to praise them for a very little thing they did... It bought them to the highlight that their effort was needed and by recognizing them they unknowingly were committed to providing more assistance. Martinez is no idiot, if he had any reservations about Bill he isn't going to air them... Bill loves to get his ego stroked and that's what Martinez is doing. In doing this Martinez is reaffirming "yes I will tow that party line, however the reason I am stating this is because a chairman needs to do x y z" By identifying that he is aware if the chairman's criticisms he is justvsaying "so far he's been fine with me, so that's as far as I'm prepared to comment" - he will well be prepared for any of Bills bullshit.

That's a major problem within football, people underestimated the challenge Wigan faced and ultimately inflated the challenge Everton faced. Take the super rich out the equation and Everton would be expected to finish roundabout where we did. Out of your Villas, Newcastles, etc we would be expected to finish just outside top 5 based on salary spend. What Martinez did at Wigan was mind boggling, he changed the football culture, cleared the decks of the higher paid players and got budget footballers playing elite level stuff. He achieved with style and purpose.

Anyone ever tried running 400m dribbling a ball? Absolutely knackers you out, teaches your legs to adapt a stride based on the football not on efficiency.

Gotta say that junuzaj is one player, will laugh my arse off when he does to them what Rooney did to us. Barca or Real will come knocking for him and will get him. Just enjoying watching an arrogant manager, and an arrogant set of fans get a dose of reality. Did anyone see Bobby Charlton give SAF a head shake? How much are they prepared to give Moyes? His post match interview blames referees??? They will probably win 3-0 at old Trafford but they are still shite.

He's just gonna ply his trade at the school of science, join the likes of Barkley, McCarthy, Coleman, and a few of the other youngsters we've got coming through and make a charge at top 4 - title contenders... If that's big enough for now? At a club that's the 4th most successful in England.

Joe the pie man was ace, and yes up till now, 95-96 was the best post title winning football we've seen. I'm just so sorry for the sub 23 year olds who cant remember and appreciate that 7-8th is good enough for Everton and that percentage football is acceptable to achieve this.

Royle took us from facing relegation to winning the fa cup, going into Europe and finishing 6th next season... He was on brink of big things before he fell out with the board. Point is, Moyes did a good thing 11 years ago and dined out on it for too long. Why when he moved on in such bad taste does he deserve gratitude?!

You would think that we never achieved similar but better under Joe Royle, for some reason his achievements are erased because Moyes finished best of the midtable teams repeatedly... For that he expected us to accept as a maximum. Thankfully myself and more than a few others demand more from an Everton manager, survival at times of adversity is an achievement, mediocrity when capable of much more is a failure.