RuffRob

I think he has done plenty enough now to have played his way out of the starting 11. We have to now be bolder in games like both Bournmouth and Luton away and against Burnley, Forest, Brentford and Sheff Utd at home and at least have a right back who is going to give us much more going forward. It pretty much the bottom half of the table and all be games in which we should be going on the feild feeling positive that we are the better team, there is signficant scope to get a more forward thinking right back on the pitch.

I don't think any player can use what is termed Dyche ball as a excuse. There are opertunities in most game for our offensive players to show moments of quality or make moment of quality happen. The problem is as much the quality (or lack of) of the player as it is the system in which they play. I remember when Harrison played against us for Leeds, he had a couple of stinkers, if I remember correctly the last game he played against us he was particualy poor. Being a hard worker has always been his best attribute, genuine quality being spasmodic at best. Dyche ball actually probably suits the worker like Harrison's of this world. £8M for Gray was business it seens we couldn't turn down, give our finances, his fringe position in the squad and him being on his final year. Being on his final year and he low fee, that has to go down as mostly profit on the books. He's not done anywhere near enough to earn a £20m transfer.

to be honest not one of the offensive players are stepping up to grab a goal or two. You would expect wingers and midfielders to be chipping in here and there, it not just strikers, everybody's lost the final touch if front of goal.

I also feel Gomes could be a big player for those home games we have coming up after the break.

It can't be under estimate what 'confidence' brings to a team. It's the single biggest thing that's missing for us at the moment. Desperately need to chalk up a win to get bring some of that back. must now hope for other results to go our way to keep weekend from being a total disaster!!

That's what makes it so frustrating, we should really still be in this game.

fuck all to lose in the second half, may as well be a little bolder and give Patto game time..

Most of our away games are fairly tough - so would be happy getting 3 -4 points from these (3 draws or a win) if our luck changes a little at home. Home, we have been shocking results wise - but if we don't take at least 9 points from those 5 games then we really don't have any right to be in the Premiership. Unless we get a couple of unexpected results beforehand you would have to say the Forest game could have a lot riding on it. We could really do with a result against Man U to take the club in to the short break we are then going to have.

Behind the scenes this club must be a cauldren of stress and anxiety at the moment. It is effectievly rudderless at the very top with lot of very seriouse stuff going on - 3/4 the way thought a new stadium build with massive cheques needing to be signed weekly, point deducutions and appeals going on over the whole season (the results of which could make the difference between us going down and staying up), possible new owners who everybody knows are not without there own risks (we are NOT getting a Middle East consortium with effectively endless resourses), we are effectively searching down the back of the sofa for any spare £1M at this moment in time to try and fund our new stadium and intrest payment that come with it. This is not a great place to be a manager at the moment - anybody with a ounce sence would steer clear for the next 18months until the dust has well and truly settled. I am pretty sure if Dyche had crystal ball and had known what was likley to be the working conditions at the club when he was offered the job, he may very well have passed and waited for a more normal job to come along, one that was simply about the football on the pitch!! . If the club paniked and got rid, who of the calibre needed would be queing up to take on the Everton manager roles and be better placed than Dyche to get us over the line in the next 11 games. I think Dyche has been very supportive of the players who are going on the pitch week in week out. It's obviouse for all to see that players ARE missing chance after chance, he can only say some many time - they have the 'freedom to miss chances'. We all know; players included, they are going to have to start put a few more of them away at sometime. He is far from throwing players under the bus. I and others are a long way from thinking Dyche is perfect, but he is a fairly good fit for this club at the moment. He is a manager who does not go around crying about the situation the clubs in, he rolls his sleeves up and deals with it, and he is getting players to do the same. There are plenty of things going on at this club where a managers or players could be quite easily thinking "what's the f8cking point' its a circus around this place, I'll probably be better off somewhere else come the summer!!". I don't feel this at all from Dyche and the squad. None of us were expecting miracles this season, we all though mid table mediocrity would be plenty acceptable this season given upheaval and resources at the club, just keeping away from a third relegation battle. If we take away the point deductions, then that is pretty much where we are as a footballing side (and maybe this is what Dyche is as a manager). But at this very moment in time I am more than satisfied with mediocrity, I am very weary of trying to change things up on the management side, as another minor slip in this department would see us relegated. Premiership is a very unforgiving league and given o A time to stick not twist.

I don't doubt others would be interested in a Premier League club (at the right price), but not sure how that would equate to a genuine interest. If true, then this other interested party should really be shouting from the roof tops about being interested in Everton rather than keeping it to themselves and Joe Thomas. What would other investers have to gain by keeping a low profile? If I was genuine buyer I would be doing what I could to put a fly in the ointment for what could be a near immenent 777 deal. If PL sanctions 777 Partners, then we could have new owners fairly sharpish, so any other interested party would miss the boat. If there was another genuine buyer in sight, then may even help the PL in saying they don't think 777 are fit and proper (if thats what they are thinking), becasue Everton have other genuine options. Even if 777 Partners have some period of exclusivity on detail discussions with Everton, that still doesn't stop any other potential buyer letting it be know they would be interested.

I must admit I am on Josh Wander side in this case, really not sure what Josimar Football credentials are and now much they ARE in the know or just think they are in the know with a handfull of fact. These articles, if not properly balanced, can end up divisive and harmful. It is interesting that Wander has used the term libelous about what is being wrote. 777 Partner (and their backers) are already putting lots of money in to the club, so 777 Partner at the moment deserve the benefit of the doubt. These significant sums of money will not be getting invested by fools, some people seem to have faith in 777 Partners and there ability to make Everton a better club. We all know our main problem has been that we have be very poorly run in a modern footballing world environment, it's that simple. It's fuck all to do with not having a wealth investor. If 777 simply have talented people lined up to run us like a proper sports franchise business, then we are going to be in an infinately better position than we are in now. Just getting our boardroom lto a proffessional level and making Everton a better run club will see the value of us as an asset go up.

I think in normal circumstances Dyche might be going through a run of games where questions might start to be rasied about the team and how it's progressing results wise and playing wise under his management. However, we are so far removed from normal circumstances as a club could be. Dyche is working under the most unusual circumstances we could really imagine at a football club. The points you have won being taken off you based on things that went on before your arrival and then with the spectre of even more points being taken away from you hanging over you. You add to this the madness of how the ownership and board situation is at this club, the long standing Chairman passing away. All these signficant things happening off the pitch over 2/3's of a season is quite astounding really. All this has to negatively affect the players and football management side of the club. The biggest thing that is really going against Dyche and the wider team at the moment seems to be a bit of luck - Performance wise easily half of our defeats/draws could have quite easily have turned out as wins on a different day. I don't beleive he as lost the players or dressing room at all, in fact they all seem to be working together to try and change the results. I imagine he would have loved to have been in the position 10 games ago to try and take on games a little more going in to them as a mid table team. However, he has had the tractor beam of the points deduction that is keeping us (and will do now for the rest of the season) pulled toward the bottom three - that in itself brings a nervouseness to the players and fans alike. Everton are at what I feel is a very delecate tipping point at the moment - Until the points deductions and ownership issues are sorted out, the last thing we should do is be trying to change manager again. Especailly as Dyches main downfall to me has been that he's been very unlucky this season - both on and off the pitch. If this had been a 'normal' season, just about football - I could quite easily see this team having a two or three more wins under their belt and now being safe on between 35-40 points. I would actually like to see Dyche manage in to next season, with hopefully points deduction behind us and a new owner and board in place - to me he has and is showing enough to suggest he deserves a normal season.

Neither Mc Neil or Harrison haven't been particiualy consistent this season. They provide a solid enough base, but have generally not offered a signifcant amounts offensivley - considering that they are our offesive outlets. How I would love to be watching the McNeil we watched this time last year. we know McNeil does have it in his locker. The problem is we don't have a great choice beyond the pair of them at the moment, either to be putting there places in the team under pressure or to be offering a great deal off the bench. As a player with us on loan Harrison is doing a OK job, but as a player we should go and spend £20M on then, I don't think so in what I think is going to be a very subdued transfer market this summer. I really think it will be a buyers this summer. I think the likes of Man U, Chelsea, Villa, Newcastle will be trying to shift players and big earners, but equally not spending massivley to replace them. Fuck knows what Everton's plans will be, will we be a Premiership or Championship team and will we have a new owner or not. Probably two of the biggest questions you could have before making any sort of concrete transfer plans.

We are a considerably better team under Dyche, than we have been the past couple of years. Our performances are much more competative and consistently so. 1t has simply been down to poor finishing at the final moment. the irony is we have all be so hoping for DCL to get fit for best part of 2 season, and when he does he just can't score. Dyche has given him massive support on starting him. Even thoigh DCL a better player I think Beto now needs a run of games.

I think your right - fans as well as players will be glad this appeal is now off our backs - we have to see it as a positive result and go in to the Saturdays game with spring is everybodies set, Goodison bouncing and players reacting to that. Lets see that 4 points back being reinforced with another three points on Saturday. Then is would feel like a truly good week.

Well he was/is a free for the first 20 games, then £10m once 20 games player. however, it said the deal could potentially be £40m with other add on, I am guessing one could very well be contract renewal or extension. I don't imagine we would simply get away with running the contract out and then re sign him.

come on, we know what will happen. Everton (becasue of the Contract we have) will be the only club that can't sign Dele on a free in the summer (will cost us £10M or more as for us it will be a renewal) even though we have paid his wages and hopefully looked after him this past season. He will sign for somebody else and he will have put his demons behind him, and will be fit for the opening game of the season in August and will get back to somewhere near his old form. Will most likely will sign for a club we are in a relegation battle with (if we are in Prem next year). This is how I feel thing just go for Everton at this moment in time. If there is any luck going around it' only the bad luck we seem to get.

I think it really is a case we don't have a clue of what sort of new owner we are going to get with 777. With 'they could be worse than Moshiri could they' currently being the best (on paper) of what they really have going for them. That is quite a low bar of expectation. based on estimated purchase cost and liability of compleating the stadium, it must be pushing a £1Billion investment. You can only hope that there are some fairly shrewd business people involved who have a reasonably well thought out plan. A will settle for a plan and getting on to an even keel at the moment - fucking sad the state we are in.

I think the only sale that would count in 22/23 financial period is Gordon and possibly Moise Kean, but purchases of Onana, McNeil, Garner, Maupay and Gueye all happened in 22/23. It's not really a statement of getting on top of our finances, and they where all purchased transfer window immediately post Usmanov and the sponerships lost.

by my reading of the figure given in the report and a few sums. 19/20 - £58m loss 20/21 - £53m loss 21/22 - £13.5m loss (based on 3year total £124.5m over spend documented) So simlpy standing alone (without any reduction for already being charged) the 3 year on this second charge would need to be - 20/21 - £53m 21/22 - £13.5m 22/23 - so for a charge to be brought it would have to be at least £105m - £53m - 15.5m = so lossses greater than £38.5m must have already been submitted for 22/23 accounting year. Can't see how we would be charged otherwise. That would mean our stated loses must be over a single year £35M in anycase. Going from -£13.5m loss (21/22) to more than £38.5m loses (22/23) also means the downward trend discussed in the appeal has evaporated. So thats not great either.

its fucking mad we could finsih the season with potential 5 different point totals 1. - what we win fair and square on the pitch 2. * -10 pts 3. ** - 6pts 4. *** - 6pts and minus from second charge 5. **** - 6pts and minus points deducted upon appealed to second charge. And in between this, the table will also change based on Forests charge

I would be careful how far we could push with that one, otherwise get slapped with some other financial irregulatiry. How sponsership money comes in etc is one they look at. We know that Usmanov has been involded with appointments at the club etc. As much as we think they are,PL lawyers are not stupid.

Reallity is that Usmanov was really the owner elect for the club. Mascarading and a none share holder he had the abitlity to keep us hovering just below the £105M PSR with £10M- £30M sponsership here and there. Before the Ukraine war we had the ability to sail close to the PSR limit because Usmanov was able to set up a commercial deal to simply cover any shortfall. In mid March 2022, both our current and future business model was ripped from under the club, when Russians where booted out of the country. Over night Everton football club basically had their pants pulled down and became fully exposed. Moshiri/Usmanov ownership was set to try and get around PSR to a degree. Pre PSR, Usmanov could and would have just bought Everton and spend just like Chelsea or Man City did with no worry about it. But Everton can't say to the commision or PL, our 'slight of hand' pretend non owner financing model of the club has been taken away from us and we are going to be a bit fucked PSR wise for two or three years!! Its all been a financial fire fight since March 2022. So fuck knows what our 22/23 books look like a full year post Usmanov. One shining light is that Usmanov has been terrible and would have contiued to have been a piss poor owner. So as much as its all fucking us in the short term - It may be better for us long term.

I thing the argument put forward regarding Russian sactions was that Moshiri had a gentleman's agreement about getting some more money from USM for naming rights while the stadium was under construction. PL and commission stated that there is no documentation of this, so not having any of it. In the appeal document just issued, this was fairly specific and did not cover our general sponsorship deals with USM. Sanction in March 22, and losing a major 'suger daddy' sponser going forward will have majorly hit us July 22 onwards. We still has USM on board for most of 21/22. only lost them for April, May and June in that accounting year. What else would have caused us to lose so much more money in 22/23 if we are actually spending less on transfers and wages?

reading through the finding of he commissio and looking at this charge it looks like financially year 1 £55m loss year 2 £53 loss and year 3 (£124.5 - £55m -£53m) so must be -£16..5m. loss. now if we look at this with regard to the up coming charges. year 2 - £53m, year 3 -£16.5m so year 4 must be (£105m - 53 -16.5) giving-£35m. now we all know that we don't have net player spending in year 4 or increase in wages, in fact it must be the opposite. I think we should be in a much better position for arguing any losses in year 4, because this is the year that the Ukrainian war broke out and the Russian sactions actually kicked in and overnight we lost our major sponsorship. its not realistic to replace this kind of major sponsorship in a matter of months.