Formby

Great strike.
Another premature exit from the club. If we couldn't get anything better, why get rid of him? For just 8 million?
Ditto Gray (8 million) - fast, could shoot, could beat a man.
Even Iwobi had skill.
What have we got now? No pace, no skill, no shooting boots, no clue.
Not looking back and thinking these players were any more than bang average, but they are better than what we have.

His first one was a cracker like.
We sold him because he wanted to leave and we saw how the money would be pure profit on our books. Plus he was 22/23 so it's not like he was a kid that we (as in the club) didn't know much about. If they come up and he does the business in the PL then I'll hold my hands up but it wasn't that long ago that he went on a long stretch of not scoring and couldn't get in their team.
Gray was another opportunity to make huge profit on a cheap signing, and obviously there was more to him leaving than just that as well.
Iwobi wouldn't sign a new contract so we needed to get shut of him. Again for the books.
We shouldn't need to be doing this sort of thing, selling people because of profit etc, but that's what the PL has created and we needed to go down this route.
At the end of the day though (sorry Mike ), it's not the selling of these players that is the problem. It's how they've been replaced.

Great strike.
Another premature exit from the club. If we couldn't get anything better, why get rid of him? For just 8 million?
Ditto Gray (8 million) - fast, could shoot, could beat a man.
Even Iwobi had skill.
What have we got now? No pace, no skill, no shooting boots, no clue.
Not looking back and thinking these players were any more than bang average, but they are better than what we have.

Yep English football is fucked, it’s already gone past the point of no return and is only going to get worse
It’s not just the EPL, the same 6 teams are also now dominating the cup competitions.
In these PSR cases the EPL keep talking about fairness and integrity but the EPL is anything but. If it’s fairness and integrity they want then that is only achievable by introducing a salary cap and applying same rules to all 20 teams

On a par with Beckham's, perhaps?

Looks like the next team the Premier League will be fucking is Leicester, and they’re not even in the league .

On a par with Beckham's, perhaps?

On a par with Beckham's, perhaps?

Haf you seriously need to get over yourself, it’s attitudes like yours that got the Buffoon Union laughed out of town
You constantly peddle rumours as facts to suit your agenda the swiftly resort to name calling as soon as anyone disagrees with you
This started with a none story about Dyche allegedly slapping Patterson on the head and you’ve shifted target to BK so you can’t start saying I told you so , sometimes I think you are delighted that things are going badly so you can revel in it
Show me a single post where I have apologised for BK
I don’t want to go over all the BK bollocks again but IMHO he was not the evil, lying parasite you make him out to be
Did he make mistakes? Most definitely but I honestly believe he always made decisions he believed were right for the club 
Why do all ex players and staff , people with actual knowledge of the inner goings on of the club speak so highly of him?
Moshiri is the main reason we are in this mess and his failings dont suddenly make all the shite you have spouted over the past 10 years  right and factual
Its a forum mate, we are allowed to have a different opinion to you
 
 

If we have pleaded guilty and get the two brownie points back that Forest received, and the commission find we have already been punished for the first charge and there's no case to answer for the second, do we still get the two brownie points back? So +2?
 

The three learned people in the Forest Commisson couldn't figure out why Everton actually got 6 points. Paragraph 14.15 is extracted below. 
 
14.15 In the case at hand, the Commission considered whether there were any additional factors that should be taken into account - the “unique” position and/or the reasons for the excess. The conclusion was that these did not (nor were they mitigating factors, see above) and the only factor driving Forest up the scale will be the size of the breach. It was bigger than Everton’s, but both were in the “significant” breach band. However, there was no additional consideration around incorrect information being provided to the Premier League, as Everton had. The Commission does not know how the three extra points were arrived at by the Appeal Board for Everton, but some part of those three points must relate to the provision of incorrect information. Forest’s breach (not its losses, the Commission is concerned with the breach of the PSR Threshold) was larger than Everton’s and as a result, that alone slides it up the scale by three further points to a starting point of six points"
What is very frustration is that 'incorrect infomation' (or being 'less than frank' as was the term used in Evertons hearings) refers to our original hearing only - for which we where given 10 points (not 6 points). 
However, in our appeal the hearing found that Everton's original hearing was wrong to say Everton had been 'less than frank' and our claim on this was upheld in the appeal. So we got some of the 10 points back, helping to bring our punishment down to 6 point from the original 10. Not up from 3 to 6.  
Another frustration is that a £19.5m and £34.5m are somehow classed in the very same bracket of ' a significant' breach. Convinient!
I went on a few Forest fan forums yesterday, although they are pissed off at having point taken off them, pretty much all of they saying they through it would be more points taken off them, and the club should just take the 4 and do without the shadow of an appeal hanging over the fans, club and players for the rest og their games, maybe to possibley get 1 point back.  A fucking luxury Everton have not had for four months as we had massive 10 points deduction around our neck for the best part of this season, so had no choice but to go through the internal stress of an appeal (and turns out justifibly so). 
Forest have dodged a bullet in my eyes and Everton have had the shitty end of the stick. 
 

Fair play to Forest for their statement. Very strong words. 
 
 

I don’t even disagree that the Johnson transfer should have been a mitigating factor because why should they have to take a lower a fee from another club acting like a vulture. But if something that Forest chose to do was allowed as mitigation why wasn’t the war in Ukraine etc allowed for us when we had zero control over that?
None of this makes any sense and rather than show that an independent regulator isn’t needed all it’s done is shown that it is desperately needed.
Fuck Richard Masters, fuck the Premier League and fuck their farcical panels. 

The thing that bothers me the most with Forest's punishment is that their overspend (almost double ours) did actually give them a sporting advantage and they somehow received a smaller punishment than our original one of 10 points and then even had it reduced.
These panels are as much of a joke as the PL.

But we didn't try to mislead, that was one of the big points the club were so angry with.

One big fucking joke this and, again, makes you think there's an agenda against us.

In Everton’s appeal hearing the commission said that a six-point deduction is “the minimum but sufficient sanction required to achieve the aims of the PSR.”

In Everton’s appeal hearing the commission said that a six-point deduction is “the minimum but sufficient sanction required to achieve the aims of the PSR.”

Which, again, makes you wonder where the hell the 10 points deduction we recieved first came from.

I find it's a good day for me when we're not playing, as well. Can't think why! 🤔

is this a Cornish / Danish alliance? 

I find it's a good day for me when we're not playing, as well. Can't think why! 🤔

So, we're still 3 points ahead of 18th and we now have the game in hand.
Brentford right in the shit now too.
It's been a good day for us today without even playing.

Good result for us I think, if Forest had won and we both get docked points before the end of the season we need to be close to them as possible. 

He was very much involved, but his shooting was well off the mark. 
You’ve got to give credit to Luton, cheapest squad in the league by far, a fair few injuries to key players and 3 games in a week, yet they still believe and never give up, there won’t be many easy games for quite a lot of teams against them.