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  1. Felli is a game winner. I don't know why so many fans are happy to see him go. While he is here, it keeps us on the footballing map, and in the eyes of Europe in terms of players wanting to join.

     

    Baines is 29 in December. If we must lose somebody, I'd rather it were Osman.

    Well said Avin, I don't see a another midfielder in the prem to touch him for less than the rate of say £30 mill minimum. I don't see any other prem clubs banging at Wigans door for Mcarthy do I? :dont know:

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    We're definitely in for him? Because we're linked with a lot of players who we aren't in for at all (like all clubs).

    He would come to us if we put in an offer of a loan over Sunderland I have been lead to believe, but this only comes from a person who knows Alan Curtis who is on the coaching staff at the club. Seems reliable I would have thought but you never know, this guy has no reason to lie to me though.............

  3. How can anyone mention RVW.... Yes he took his goal well but the lad had eight touches all game. No one can view an opinion after eight touches of a ball.

    John Barnes was signed for Watford when Grayham Taylor was walking through a park where a sunday league fixture was being played and saw him control a ball so well he invited Barnes for a trial, the rest they say is history.......................

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    I think we'll always have one midfielder sitting in front of the defense, especially when we only play 2 centre backs. So Barry wouldn't need to be on the edge of the box. I'm pretty sure build up play will be slower than last year as well. He wouldn't have been suitable for Moyes' type of play as that would have included a centre back passing to Felllaini in the air and the central midfielders pushing up to win the second ball or to receive lay-offs. Under Martinez there will be more passes seemingly going nowhere until one of the forwards accelerates play.

    Will you be happy with that though? I mean keeping the ball but slower build up play?

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    Forgive me if I'm missing your point as I'm foreign and don't always get exactly what is meant when people use more idiomatic expressions, but I think you're complaining about Barry not being fast enough to counter attack? I honestly don't see why you would even want him too. He's the holding midfielder. I think we'd be overcommitting people forward if we'd have the holding midfield player to sprint towards the opposition's box on counter attacks at every opportunity.

     

    For a long time none of our forwards or wingers really had the pace to be able to run in behind defenders or the skill to beat them one on one. We now have that main outlet for counter attacks in Mirallas. If we can find him early we'll be dangerous. I'd like him to come into the middle for our offensive transitions so he can progress down the middle. Of course he will still need support but that should be from the striker, the other winger, the number 10 and preferably Fellaini.

    Yep true there, but Barry can't cover the ground quick enough when the back four push on up the pitch, being in front of the back four means you have to be the link from Jags to the front man, far enough from the back four to help out on the edge of the box but deep enough to warrant protection to the defenders but he can't keep the required distance from either. Martinez will really try to go for a quicker type of play this season I'm sure of it. Mind you Makalele was slow so that put's the hammer on my arguement............ :lol:

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    I'll try saying this in a different way than what I've already said in the hope that different words will get understanding.

     

    We need a player who will effectively be able to move about the pitch to break up play. Gareth Barry is so slow you could crawl past him and still leave him for dead. I don't know if you watched the game when England were destroyed by Germany and Barry played... well, that would be enough to make any one be put off signing him. He may as well have not been on the pitch for all the fucking use he was. It was embarrassing.

     

    If we're going to be playing a more attacking game, as we expect, then we need a player who can cover for any slip-ups we make further up the pitch and I really don't think Barry is capable of it now.

    Hit the nail on the head there Romey.

  7. I'd have him. I think the holding midfield role is the role we need to strengthen most. We only have Gibson for that position at the moment. Barry might even be able to displace him. It's someone who was a regular starter for City against someone who could not get a game for United. I don't care about his age either as it's a loan move. I think it's likely we have no more money left to make any permanent signings and are now looking in the loan market, I think Barry's about as good as you're gonna get in that area (if he's even available that is). As it's a loan, his age doesn't matter either. It's only for a season.

     

    Assuming we're playing a double pivot in midfield, we'd have Barry and Gibson for the holding role. Fellaini (the mobile and athletic midfielder) or Osman (a more clever player who will play between the lines and link up play on a good day) for the role next to them. Barkley or Naismith or Pienaar for the role in the hole.

    Yes but Steve if we counter attack at speed we need defensive midfielders to be able to be up just in front of the box not thumb in bum around the halve way line though........ hell we need to make the move up the pitch as a team not in one's and two's waiting to be picked off at will, most coaches say no more than 35 yards between the last midfielder and the furthest forward. With Barry we will leave a gaping hole big enough Jan Molby could walk through..........

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