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like an oracle. The deduction is exactly between 1 and 3 points. I'm less fussed about 2 points being deducted this go around than I am the process in general. It's just been one giant circus.

It's like we just don't want to pull away from the bottom 3. Leaving all the pressure on the FFP cases.

Just criminal to let them put all the pressure on us with a man advantage

Cmon boys! Go for it!

We're going down unless we get some points back and get off with minimal-no points punishment if guilty of a 2nd breach. Simple, as is.

Think we've got to stick with McNeil unless we change shape - Young just hasn't done anything positive bar the clearance off the goalline and would happily see him come off.

RIP and a big thank you to Bill for his thoughtful contributions and being a staple of ToffeeTalk. I'm sorry for the loss, though if he is indeed 96 year old Billy Ingham, no doubt a long life fully lived. My condolences, Patto. As a general note, this is an opportunity to thank all of you for contributing to this community - as someone who came to this forum as a new football fan and new Evertonian, I have learned so much from being a member here and thank all of you for increasing my knowledge, football, Everton, and many things else and I preemptively forgive all of you for the brain damage you've caused me on Brexit and Romelu Lukaku.

I just don't get how we can be punished twice for the same bad spending spree when we've been on the right track for almost three years now... So the PL's solution towards making clubs sustainable is to threaten them with relegation to the Championship and to put them in even more perilous financial positions without PL revenue? Could've seen this coming a mile away with Forest. I believe Leicester and Wolves were also pushing the limits.

Just a shocking result. Really wanted 4 points across this match and Bournemouth before our run in gets difficult. 3 points from the next one is huge, but absolutely criminal that we've lost to Wolves, Fulham, and Luton at home.

I don't know what my response would've been if you told me Ashley Young would be our first summer signing... Just really bizarre. Almost feels as weird as when we signed Samuel Eto'o under Martinez. At least our expectations are low on this one. No long term contract or big transfer fee means the financial downside to this one is next to nothing as well. I have no idea how this signing will go, but props to him for maintaining such a high level playing career for so long and into his late 30s. Surely it at least speaks to his work ethic and professionalism.

Feel like he belongs in the Championship for some midtable side that wants to play on the front foot.

It's a tough one because I think we'd like to keep him but it'd be contingent on us staying up. Don't want another big wage + long term deal to be saddled with if we're going down.

I don't think we'd be covered in glory, but certainly we'd have another 5-7+ points and be on the lower end of midtable nowhere near the drop. What a season it could've been!

At this rate, we'll be debating the merits of Mick McCarthy vs Alex Neill in 12 months...

It's easy: Billionaires rarely fancy themselves engineers, architects, or construction foremen unless they are. However, it does seem that a large number of billionaires who buy sports teams then fancy themselves as talent scouts, coaches, etc...