Shukes

I would prefer we spend money on the piece of kit that sticks the sponsor down. Two shirts in three months and both have the sponsor peeling off. Spoke to the people on the coach on Saturday and there were two more on there with shirt issues. Very poor this season.

Keane was preferred over Branthwaite because Branthwaite wasn’t at the club mate. He was in Holland with PSV.

This is why I struggle with a lot of what we read. So much of it just doesn’t add up.

I quite like the new stadium location myself. I know Moshiri has made bucket loads of bad decisions. But I would not class the stadium as one of them. If anything it’s a shining light in an otherwise dire situation. Have to admit I didn’t read much past that as it set its stall out from the outset. Kind mid made me lose respect for the authors straight away. May have been a great informative article if I continued, but very poor way to start haha.

He was against Villa mate. But by anyone’s standards that was a poor Villa team. And we shocked everyone with that performance. But he played centrally against Doncaster and was shocking and he played centrally against Luton second half and was equally shocking mate. One league cup shock isn’t enough for me. Needs to be where it counts, and that’s in the premier league fighting for survival. He needs someone like Gana alongside him to help him for me. I can see where the terrible two are going with all the posts at the min haha. I think you guys think people are against Garner for some reason. That’s not the case. I rate him highly as a player, but in my opinion I don’t think he is ready to play centrally in that link up position. We’ve tried it several times and it has ended up badly for 90% of the time. Yet when he plays with a bit of width, he plays better and the team is more successful. Look, I’m just going to agree to disagree with the two of you for now. Don't want a discussion to turn into an argument and I feel it’s edging that way mate. Me and you can just face it we’ll disagree on each others names if we can just to have a spar haha Gonna save it for the next one

Eh??? What???? Mate I think you’re just looking for an argument now. I’ll leave it there.

Garners not a player that we can put in the middle without Gana to do the other work Palfy. It’s plain to see whenever we try it. I agree we should be playing with wingers. But Garner needs to have width. His skill set doesn’t lend to being the link up player. We saw it yesterday. Just a big massive hole in the middle as Onana really wants to just sit back for some reason. I agree that he may work better with Doucoure in there. As Duke could be the link up man, but then we lose his box to box ability. Maybe if Doucs sat back and allowed Garner to push forward more? I don't know the answer, don’t even know if there is one with the players we have. I think unfortunately we don’t have the players to allow Garner to sit there and spray passes.

He couldn’t set up the same as he did against Villa mate. This is the premier league. They rested their four best players. The midfield controlled the match for 45 minutes. Let’s not make the mistake of thinking they played through us and scored goals. They didn't at all…. They hardly had the ball in the middle. They scored off set pieces because we were shockingly bad at the back in dealing with crosses. We should have been four up first half. Second half I agree with you totally. Their midfield took control and stopped us having the ball in there at all. It forced us to lump the ball. It was the worst half time team talk I have ever witnessed. I’ve never saw a team change so much so badly in a simple 15 minute break. Should have been so simple. Keep that momentum up that we ended the half with. Someone take charge at the back for set pieces. Now go out and play. Can’t understand how it went so badly. It’s almost like they were told to protect the -1 goal cushion. Totally nullified us.

I’m really disappointed in Onana. He should be the player that naturally takes his position. But when he gets the chance he seems to shrink back into himself. He hasn’t got that instinct to just link up yet. Hoping that will come. Garner needs width. Not saying as a winger, but not smack bang in the middle. We’ve tried it a few times and it’s ended disastrously most times. He hasn’t got that skill set. To the side of a middle three maybe. But so far his best games have come when he plays wide.

We did mate. The amount of times we had the ball deep with Onana and there was no one in front of him. We stopped being available for those little give and goes. Start of the second half, Onana gets the ball and looks forward…. There’s no one there. So then we had to rely on sending it long. When we did have it in the middle it just went straight back to Tarks and all he could do was send it long. Youve got to be brave to play central mid. You have to be want to come and receive the ball. Onana and Garner aren’t those players. I’m a massive fan of Onana’s, but I agree with what Romey says. He is frustrating because he looks like he has the ability, but seems to hide away a lot. This could be because he is still young maybe. We’re still desperately in need of that solid central player. Onana might step into that roll if he can start becoming a bit braver. If not then we need to start looking now for a replacement for Gana. Gana will be gone next year surely, and at the minute we don’t look like we have anyone to replace him. Garner is an excellent player, but he can’t play that role without having someone to do the dirty work for him, or to do the simple link ups. So far we’ve watched three matches with those two in the middle, and so far it’s only worked against an experimental Villa side in the league cup. It’s been terrible the rest of the time. It could work if we maybe brought Duke back into central mid and let Garner be the free roam? I don’t know the answer, but I’m certain Dyche is looking at his decisions and thinking…. Well that fucked up didn’t it. If he isn’t…. He should be.

We did start the game like that. We played through the middle with short balls. Didn’t need to change anything. All the fans in the stadium could see it clearly. But in the second half he decided to go with two relatively inexperienced central mids and they both had terrible half’s. They struggled with the ball. Was a terrible decision.

100% if we would have played that same team against their strongest in the league, we would have been murdered. unfortunately the Villa game is going to used as a marker for some for a while now. What you can see is that the manager bowed to opinion and that’s his failure. People have been calling for that second half line up for a while…. And it failed spectacularly. The fans say they’re at half time saying we will score second half without a doubt, all we need to do is keep going. Ten minutes into the second half the mood had changed as we realised we had no middle, and it turned into that feeling that we could play for two hours and still wouldn’t score a other. Bit the manager has to stand up now and realise a tweak to tactics is ok, but totally switching tactics at half time is a huge mistake. Not asking for the sack or anything as I tho k he needs a lot more time. But a bit of accepted responsibility is needed for me after that. My worry is now, that fans like Palfy and Haf are right and he won’t be able to change. Maybe they saw early on a flaw in him and got it right.

Ye very disappointing today.

Haha even I was shouting the same. Let him do what he does on the pitch, but instruct him to pass instead of shoot ffs. But at least people can see what happens when he’s not there now. Midfield were dire once he went off. If we’re going to play Garner in the middle, make it the right side of a two. He is shit when playing as a central figure.

Fucking hell Romey is slaughtering everyone haha Do me do me!

I agree mate. Dom had a decent game. But the way he changed it at half time is unforgivable. Absolutely nullified us.

We wasn’t very good today, but he has been much better than that. I wouldn’t write him off just yet.

Branthwaite. Made a couple of mistakes, but was 90% good throughout. McNeil worked his socks off all game. But is still lacking fitness and it’s effecting his quality. Dom was good. Fought for everything, just needs that bit of sharpness. No one else deserves a mention through the 90 mins.

Please come back.

The biggest change was us stopping playing through the middle mate. It made the only option wide. First half we created chances from playing simply forward balls through the middle, and it worked. Second half he made it so our only option was width, and they just sat their full backs on us knowing we had no quality on the middle. Today was squarely on the managers decisions.

First half we were actually dangerous. Our defending set pieces was just terrible. Better finishing and we could have easily been up at the break. The six minutes after we scored… we battered them. Second half it was back to last seasons no composure and hit and hope. Terrible second half from them. We played right into their hands and let them just grind out a result. Why we didn’t come out for the second half as we went in I don’t know.

We lost this on the dressing room at half time mate. Absolute amateur mistake. It’s the type of decision that fans make. We absolutely played into their hands second half. They were laughing at how bad we were. Luton Town we’re laughing at how inept we were.

Don’t usually blame the manager. But we lost that at half time. First half we were creating loads. We just couldn’t defend a set piece. We changed it at half time and we’re rubbish second half. All huff and puff and absolutely no quality.

I think that would be more of a promised asset for the club rather than the buyer though. Could be wrong though. Anyway…. Enjoy your day all.

Hoping mate. Just happy that we have a decent line up. Hoping to see a couple of the newer players for the first time. Got my lad with me so really want to come back with a win.