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I could be wrong.

He was replying to mjbs post saying it was 22m

The official price was 20m up to 24m with add ons.

Not gonna argue anymore after this...or discuss, but I'm surprised you think that Martinez is such a strong character that he could branwash the likes of Jags, Barry, Baines etc. Who are seasoned internationals. Anyway, everyone else is right...Martinez is gone, let's move on. At this moment I am feeling slightly optimistic that Koeman could be shaping us a little. Let's see how the team lines up and what difference it makes.

Hahaha typical Pad! Good to see your still here though mate.

Good luck Niasse, hope you turn your career around and have some success at your next club.

Me too. Ani was a force when on his game, just wasn't often enough. But the talent was there, just didn't have the attitude for it.

so you think Martinez was the stronger character than Koeman. At first I thought you were quite witty and sarcastic, but now I think you really believe your own bullshit haha. Each to their own I suppose.

I can't wait to see him along with Morgan and dcl. Hopefully we can bring in at least one more, maybe two.

Same here. I stuck by him up until last season then I just lost all confidence in him. Never seemed to have a plan B which was worrying. But I think he gave it his best, he just isn't up to this standard.

What are you actually talking about? If you read the posts I don't think I have saw one single person prefer Martinez over Koeman. But a lot of people can't see the difference that Koeman has made YET! ... sorry that's wrong, we're out of both cups at the first hurdle and around the same points as last year. Just because people can see through the compensation etc. Doesn't make them Martinez appologists. All I know is that up until this point our football has been deject of any passion, heart or effort. Neutrals find us boring....or at least the ones I talk to....and commentators find is mundane....even our own beloved ex players. That is unnaceptable for me. Everton has a history and we need to get back to writing more of it, not just fading away.

Guys you have this all wrong. Can't believe what I'm hearing here!

Confirmed, he's gone. Loan till end of season.

At last a top signing coming in. Let's get him in the squad on Sunday and start dominating the league.

Shame, he sounded the perfect fool for Rom. Still could be alive though.

Err isn't that a permanent signing? How can you sign on loan with a guaranteed permanent at the end? What's the point haha or am I being my usual stupid self?

After reading that he does seem just what we need and a Koeman type player. Pretty excited to see this guy.

Entertainment my football is playing in a way that entertains though... not results. We were known as possibly the most entertaining team in the premier. Neutrals loved us. Now they find us boring. So you would rather go out of both cups in the first round than get to two semi finals? You find going out first hurdle exciting? Two way coin really. Myself? I would rather us climb the league and do better in the cups, maybe win one. Martinez wasn't good enough. But the football was entertaining then and not this boring roll over and have our belly rubbed stuff. I am hoping that now Koeman has a few more jigsaw pieces we will see his real style come out and it will be a mixture of attacking but defensively solid football. Here's hoping!

50% there with Clev out on loan to Watford.

Exactly what a captain needs. You don't have to be the best ability wise to be a captain, but someone who leads by example wears their heart on their sleeve. Shout at your team mates when things are going wrong and encourage them.

Never liked him for some reason. I would say he is better than most think. When I have watched him I have reluctantly thought, he is better than I want to admit. But there is always something in my stomach that tells me not to like him.

Strange that no one else is picking up on this bargain. Not sure about him.

I'll give him time and a chance to prove himself. Just one point though, it's easy to say what you think and be honest. Diplomacy is a skill.

Only problem I can see is he is a little young! Should send him to the U23s for a bit. Hopefully we can get Fonte as well to bring the average age back up. Need to bring a bit of reality back to these forums amongst all of this optimism.

And reports coming in that we were never in the running in the first place. Morgan has also said that we never contacted him or his agent!