Mogsy Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 What would you rather see, Moyes focusing on us winning the carling cup(or maybe FA cup) and mid table in the league, or as higher position in the league as possible. I don't think we will achieve a champion league spot this season so I would love us to win a cup as it's been to long. Which would be more financially rewarding, 5th/6th and Europe or a cup, maybe 8th/9th and European footie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I'd take the Cup, like you say we haven't had one for a fair while and it'll be our best bet of a European place imo. We'l finish mid-table, i'm sure of it so a cup and qualification wouldn't go amiss. Not sure which one would be more financially rewarding, but getting Everton on the back pages for the first time in 15 years+, I'd take that. Be good for young fans and possible new ones. Kids base teams on the amount of cups they win, not how well they've done in the league in a shoe string budget, they don't appreciated that yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I want to see us win something, for now our team is not poor enough to be relegated. However I want the appetite of the fans who have not seen us win anything to be whetted. These often are the fans who seem to think that our existence over the last several years needs to be championed, I personally want something to be added to the honours list. Many of the fan base need an injection of expectation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 As the stronger teams generallly field weaker teams for the carling cup is this the one to go for so long as we don't do a Birmingham! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 CIty i think will win it though. They'll put out a strong team whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Certainly the semis is achievable - from there anything can happen. We need a strong cup mentality, it has improved over recent years but certainly our cup performances have not reflected the ability of the team - when you consider previous winners and finalists. The fa cup final and league cup semi is something to improve on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I think a trophy is what we need to increase our image and hopefully put the club in the limelight for investors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftaylor Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I don't think the Carling Cup is financially rewarding- I think I saw somewhere that the prize money for the final was 150k which means all money needs to be derived from TV (can't be much) or at the match. Still would take the trophy and mid table over 5th-6th though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Think I'd have to agree with most of the above posts. Winning something, even if it's just for the bragging rights, is a lot better then almost finishing in a Champions League spot.!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewBHA Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Sorry lads looks like we can't beat the dark side after all, 1-0 down being dominated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaminfox Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I would rather win something because, being a young fan, I have never seen us win anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 so.... draw in a couple of days, teams left (i think) are: Wolves, Aldershot (pleeeeeeeease!), Arsenal, Burnley, Man Utd, Newcastle, Bolton, Stoke, Blackburn, Crystal Palace, Cardiff, Chelsea, Kopites, Man City and Southampton. Really only 1 or 2 "easy" games..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 I don't care who we get to be honest. I'd like to think we'll go out soon if we don't start playing better football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 I would rather win something because, being a young fan, I have never seen us win anything. My sentiments exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 My sentiments exactly. Well i have seen us win things the 80s were great but its been to long since ive had that lump in my throat that pride the big cheer when the cups lifted, i couldnt give a toss what cup it is as long as we win something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 i've seen us win 1 thing..we won the league the season i was born but i wasn't even 1 when the season ended..since that we have won the fa cup..i was there..it was amazing..can't see it happenin again soon though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 First game for me we beat forest 5-0 in 1984 - I was 8, we clinched title at home to QPR, I can't recall actually seeing a game where we lost that year. I was there when we rallied to beat ipswich in the FA Cup, reached the final and were beat by the poorer team due to fatigue after winning the european cup winners cup. We lost the league by a small margin next year and regained it in 87. For me - that set the expectations of what supporting Everton meant. It is probably the reason I am viewed as being so negative - It's a bit like giving a kid a PS3 as their first ever console and then expecting them to make do with a ZX spectrum for the following years. For the 20 year olds the current Everton situation is like having an Amiga - better than the ZX spectrum of the Walter Smith days, but realistically you know you ain't gonna get the PS3 unless your parents win the lottery - and you kind of accept that, cos it could be worse, you could be putting a tape in the recorder, pop down for a cup of tea and it's crashed cos you volume was too high. Sorry folks, bit of a mad one there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 First game for me we beat forest 5-0 in 1984 - I was 8, we clinched title at home to QPR, I can't recall actually seeing a game where we lost that year. I was there when we rallied to beat ipswich in the FA Cup, reached the final and were beat by the poorer team due to fatigue after winning the european cup winners cup. We lost the league by a small margin next year and regained it in 87. For me - that set the expectations of what supporting Everton meant. It is probably the reason I am viewed as being so negative - It's a bit like giving a kid a PS3 as their first ever console and then expecting them to make do with a ZX spectrum for the following years. For the 20 year olds the current Everton situation is like having an Amiga - better than the ZX spectrum of the Walter Smith days, but realistically you know you ain't gonna get the PS3 unless your parents win the lottery - and you kind of accept that, cos it could be worse, you could be putting a tape in the recorder, pop down for a cup of tea and it's crashed cos you volume was too high. Sorry folks, bit of a mad one there... Mad one but an understandable one sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 First game for me we beat forest 5-0 in 1984 - I was 8, we clinched title at home to QPR, I can't recall actually seeing a game where we lost that year. I was there when we rallied to beat ipswich in the FA Cup, reached the final and were beat by the poorer team due to fatigue after winning the european cup winners cup. We lost the league by a small margin next year and regained it in 87. For me - that set the expectations of what supporting Everton meant. It is probably the reason I am viewed as being so negative - It's a bit like giving a kid a PS3 as their first ever console and then expecting them to make do with a ZX spectrum for the following years. For the 20 year olds the current Everton situation is like having an Amiga - better than the ZX spectrum of the Walter Smith days, but realistically you know you ain't gonna get the PS3 unless your parents win the lottery - and you kind of accept that, cos it could be worse, you could be putting a tape in the recorder, pop down for a cup of tea and it's crashed cos you volume was too high. Sorry folks, bit of a mad one there... The wheel turns at every football club. Burnley, Preston NE, Blackpool, Forest, Palace, Pompey, can you see where I'm heading? All massive clubs in their day, not any more. The wheel turned for them. The shite, us, Spurs, Villa, other massive clubs who have become also runs. In 20 or so years, Utd, Arsenal, Chelski will go the same way, no team stays at the top for ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) Yeah, but has there ever been a vast difference in finances between the top teams and everyone else as there is now. I don't think the shite and us in 80's where that much richer than most teams were they? Edited September 23, 2011 by mogsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Regulator Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 When is the draw supposed to be for the next round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Yeah, but has there ever been a vast difference in finances between the top teams and everyone else as there is now. I don't think the shite and us in 80's where that much richer than most teams were they? Sky will be the ruination of a hell of a lot of teams. the trough is awash with money, and we've all got our snouts in it. Germany has got the right model to follow, someone new winning the league every couple of years. Dirty cash Moggs, dirty cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted September 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Stevie V!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 When is the draw supposed to be for the next round? Today at 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 The wheel turns at every football club. Burnley, Preston NE, Blackpool, Forest, Palace, Pompey, can you see where I'm heading? All massive clubs in their day, not any more. The wheel turned for them. The shite, us, Spurs, Villa, other massive clubs who have become also runs. In 20 or so years, Utd, Arsenal, Chelski will go the same way, no team stays at the top for ever. dont think that will be true in future with the disproportionate distribution of prize money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 chelsea at home..winnable..united get aldershot..could have set that in stone before the draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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