THFC6061 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Here are the 60 players who have a combined total of 10 or more goals and assists during the 2011-12 Premier League season... ...altogether, 338 different players scored or were credited with an assist (or both) during the season. Full details available here... Premier League 2011-12 Goals & Assists Table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 i was sure jelavic got an assist somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 i was sure jelavic got an assist somewhere? He assisted himself yesterday . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 So much for Pienaar not getting assists and goals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 does a penalty assist count cos it was his free kick that won it against fulham? the one i'm thinkin is the osman goal...but i think it was given as an own goal so would count as an osman assist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 So much for Pienaar not getting assists and goals... Even Beattie scored goals for a season, only performing because he wants a contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Even Beattie scored goals for a season, only performing because he wants a contract. You're complete disregard things once you've made up your mind about something really does make me laugh, keep it up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 You're complete disregard things once you've made up your mind about something really does make me laugh, keep it up . He's played well this year, but would he play like this if we brought him back? http://www.sos1878.co.uk/everton-news/howard-weve-handcuffed-pienaar-to-the-showers/? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 He's played well this year, but would he play like this if we brought him back? http://www.sos1878.c...o-the-showers/? I think he would to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 He's played well this year, but would he play like this if we brought him back? http://www.sos1878.c...o-the-showers/? I do. I think he'd want to show the fans appreciation for welcoming him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nikica Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 (edited) Thanks for posting this, it's an interesting list. Quite telling to see Rooney with so few assists - I was aware of this due to the fantasy football stats, but he's a more creative player than his stats would suggest. I think the fact that he's been the focal point of their attack this season and that there aren't many other good finishers in the team (other than Hernandez, who hasn't played often) has meant that he has less assists. I am sure he's created a fair amount of chances which have been wasted. Other than that the names are quite consistent with the most creative and productive players in the league. Picking another player out, Nani, it's interesting to see that even though he's been in far inferior form to last season, he has still popped up with goals and assists. I personally rate him above Valencia, as far as I know United fans are split on the matter. I think Juan Mata has been great this season. In a year when Chelsea have struggled, he's really provided many assists. Equally, Alex Song has impressive assist numbers given that he plays in the 2 in a 4231. Despite the above, for me assists are quite an arbitrary statistic - quite often the best work for a goal is done before the assist eg player A beats 3 players or plays a fantastic one-two with another player, then plays it to player B who plays a simple 5 yard square ball for player C to score. In this example player B is credited with the assist, but player A or other players in the team did most of the real build up work in opening up the team. Other times the assist is fair as it comes from an exquisite through ball or fantastic cross. I suppose you could say goals are a bit like that as well as one player can do brilliant work in setting up another for a tap in. Essentially, my point is that quantitative data is useful, but certainly does not tell the full story and it's better to analyse games with your own eyes from a qualitative perspective. There's also the issue of players not scoring 'consistently' i.e. they go through a streak of 10 goals in 10 games, then don't score another for 6 etc. Streaky players. Rooney has suffered this in some seasons and even RVP this season went 7 goals without scoring (other than a penalty) towards the season's climax. There's also the problem of players who rack up lots of essentially meaningless goals (other than for GD) in games which are won (Berbatov v Blackburn last season), versus players who might score less but score the winner more often. I suppose then we can get into a debate about how more goals deflates opposition etc so the goals might not be meaningless. I still refer to goal and assist stats as productivity is highly important, but many of the players who have a big part in making teams tick (Busquets, Alonso, Xavi in the seasons when he has fewer assists, Carrick, your own Fellaini who is not on the list) are not represented properly by these stats. I suppose the most pertinent stats for those players are pass completion. Anyway, the table is certainly interesting - I just thought this was a relevant thread for me to express my opinions on how stats can be misleading Edited May 20, 2012 by Nikica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nikica Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 (edited) Sorry, messed up posting and posted again lol. Edited May 20, 2012 by Nikica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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