ForevertonZA Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 (edited) I have uploaded this video to youtube, I give my opinion on the goal line technology debate! I was inspired by the Everton goal against Newcastle that was disallowed even though it was clearly over the line! Check it out and if you could go to the youtube video and rate and comment it would mean A LOT to me Hope you enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUxnfzJHj9I Edited October 9, 2012 by ForevertonZA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Has the link been vetted ? No offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Would have been an equally wrong decision had the Ukraine "goal" v England been allowed as Ukraine were plainly offside in the build up. Two mistakes in that case came to the right conclusion....but the second one gets all the publicity. I don't see the point in having technology to rule on a relatively rare occurrence while equally game changing mistakes are made in many other areas of the game on a much more regular basis. pete0 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Has the link been vetted ? No offense. dont believe so but its not doing any harm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 dont believe so but its not doing any harm... No lol, I meant with him only having 2 posts, is it going to give me a virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 I'm seeing a link between you and Sideliner here . Welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 No lol, I meant with him only having 2 posts, is it going to give me a virus. not so long as youre safe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideliner Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 For some strange reason soccer will probably be the last sport to introduce technology to limit human error. That is really sad because it is probably one of the easiest sports to apply it in . Bad referees make mistakes both ways - crooked referees and officials make mistakes one way - eliminate them by letting technology decide - at least it should be consistant because the machine does not know who is playing and at what stage of the game it is.Too much is at stake to accept the absolute horrible officiating i have seen this season in the Premier Leauge - if these are their best officials i hate to see their worst in lower leauges ! ForevertonZA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForevertonZA Posted October 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 I'm seeing a link between you and Sideliner here . Welcome. Yes, Sideliner is my father haha Thanx for welcoming me Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearso Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Don't see why it shouldn't be brought in. Technology is copping a bit of criticism in the Rugby League here in Aus because it slows up games and is somewhat taking away that authority and tradition of the referee that you mentioned in the video, but I think the general consensus is that there would be much more of an uproar should teams be robbed of a win because of human error judging something like grounding the ball. There wouldn't be such a disruption in play for soccer because it's quite simply a goal or not, and effective technology would pick that instantly. Same goes for offsides. Can someone fill me in on why it hasn't been brought in already? Has there been any statements from the FA or anything? ForevertonZA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Don't see why it shouldn't be brought in. Technology is copping a bit of criticism in the Rugby League here in Aus because it slows up games and is somewhat taking away that authority and tradition of the referee that you mentioned in the video, but I think the general consensus is that there would be much more of an uproar should teams be robbed of a win because of human error judging something like grounding the ball. There wouldn't be such a disruption in play for soccer because it's quite simply a goal or not, and effective technology would pick that instantly. Same goes for offsides. Can someone fill me in on why it hasn't been brought in already? Has there been any statements from the FA or anything? It would remove the opportunity for corruption to exist so probably isn't a popular measure for some of the hierarchy. For me, it would only work if the technology was available to be displayed for all in the ground to witness. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 For me, it would only work if the technology was available to be displayed for all in the ground to witness. Like Hawkeye and the Cricket one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Like Hawkeye and the Cricket one? I'm not familiar with them, although I've seen the tennis one. I'm thinking along the lines of any replay of an incident being shown on the big screen, rather than simply decisions being made via headsets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Like Hawkeye and the Cricket one? Isnt the cricket one Hawkeye? I agree though, goal line technology needs to come in and be shown to everyone. I also think technology should come in for red cards and penalties with the manager or maybe captain only having one chance to appeal over the 90 mins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideliner Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I also strongly support retrospective banning for clear diving and the introduction of technology to prevent sides like Everton always drawing the short end of the stick - totally inconsistant with the law of averages.American football has introduced technology very successfully which promotes fair results and prevents manipulation and match fixing with all the betting going around. We are afterall expecting a fair contest and not a circus like WWF wrestling.We as the consumers must make our demands clear - we can not allow the money people to protect their interests through a system which is highly manipulateable and completely outdated and belonging to the amateur age when winning was not the be all and end all. ForevertonZA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForevertonZA Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Thanx for all the great comments so far guys, really appreciate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 This has been talked about before on these pages, if not anywhere else, and I feel sometimes maybe they should leave things as they are, it can be interesting sometimes to have decisions that arouse debate and furore about goal decisions, and if you bring in advanced modern technologies, you essentially take away that debate. After all, any team that gets wronged by a questionable decision invariably gets something in their favor further down the line, and things are evened out. It may well happen in the near enough future, but for now, soccer has been the same in this country, or at least, the basic laws, for as long as anyone can remember, so why change it now. I hope it isn't introduced anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearso Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 This has been talked about before on these pages, if not anywhere else, and I feel sometimes maybe they should leave things as they are, it can be interesting sometimes to have decisions that arouse debate and furore about goal decisions, and if you bring in advanced modern technologies, you essentially take away that debate. After all, any team that gets wronged by a questionable decision invariably gets something in their favor further down the line, and things are evened out. It may well happen in the near enough future, but for now, soccer has been the same in this country, or at least, the basic laws, for as long as anyone can remember, so why change it now. I hope it isn't introduced anytime soon. I keep hearing this, but if we're not gifted 4 points on the table by the end of the season I'm gonna feel robbed! Even fate is corrupt these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideliner Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Dalziel to say we should keep on doing it cause it worked for my grandfather would have kept us stuck in the dark ages.They simply did not have the technology available in the old days.I would like to see the uproar if these horrific decisions start going against the M Uniteds and Chelseas of the world and it leads to them not winning the league or missing out on Europe.But us minows must always bear the brunt of what i call blatant manipulation.Everton will probably be given their 4 points back when they are no longer a threat for the big 5 going to Europe.Two wrongs have NEVER made one right.To allow an outdated system to influence the outcome of games is just short sighted and leaves us with more questions than answers.Debate should be stimulated by facts and not speculation. ForevertonZA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 That's alright, but because I am stuck in the dark ages The technology has been around long enough for them to have Implemented the initial idea by now, so what are they waiting for? And we know that sides like the one's mentioned above are prone to questionable decisions themselves, it does occur, and even Ferguson's harrassment and berating of match officials doesn't always ensure they are free of any decisions that may go against them. We ourselves, are not 'minnows' so to speak, maybe we can't compete with the actual heavyweights of the EPL right now, and the lack of investment still persists, but to call Everton Football Club minnows seems questionable in itself. We can talk about this all we like but the bottom line is, I don't think there will be any introduction of these goal line technologies in the immediate future. Once again, if that was their intention, they would have been introduced by now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Goal line technology is but one area of concern. What about the red / yellow card issue, the penalty, the dive, the racial abuse, the offside, injury time, the dangerous foul and so on? ForevertonZA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 In regards to the racial abuse; Huth did try to stamp out racism last weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 In regards to the racial abuse; Huth did try to stamp out racism last weekend. in regards to jokes...kohen already cracked that one Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 in regards to jokes...kohen already cracked that one Only when they're safe jokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 hmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideliner Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 The second goal for Stoke against Man United was a hand ball and should not have been allowed - it was a difficult one for the ref to spot but a replay clearly showes it - the truth is there for all to see but we prefer to ignore it - why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 ....the truth is there for all to see but we prefer to ignore it - why? Because some people (no names **cough** Zoo) say that bad decisions are what makes football interesting . ForevertonZA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 I don't know of any results this day and won't be watching any highlights needless to say, but he's not alone in thinking that questionable decisions are what the game is all about. Match officials are only human, they're ordinary people and ordinary people make mistakes. You introduce this goal line technology into it and it will invariably take away much of the debate and furore that goes with aforementioned questionable decisions. Once again, if they had the opportunity to implement it, it would have been done by now. Maybe at least for the immediate future, they should just leave it as it has been for as long as anyone can remember. I'm adamant that most, if not all, clubs benefit and get fucked over by questionable decisions in equal measure over enough amount of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Because some people (no names **cough** Zoo) say that bad decisions are what makes football interesting . certainly adds to the intrigue but its not the be all and end all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I don't know of any results this day and won't be watching any highlights needless to say, but he's not alone in thinking that questionable decisions are what the game is all about. Match officials are only human, they're ordinary people and ordinary people make mistakes. You introduce this goal line technology into it and it will invariably take away much of the debate and furore that goes with aforementioned questionable decisions. Once again, if they had the opportunity to implement it, it would have been done by now. Maybe at least for the immediate future, they should just leave it as it has been for as long as anyone can remember. I'm adamant that most, if not all, clubs benefit and get fucked over by questionable decisions in equal measure over enough amount of time. Kind of like '2 wrongs make a right' ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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