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Ha ha there are numerous "urban myths" about that .. one of the popular ones is about the shirt borrowing ... But you will always find a blue telling you the Rags are not from Manchester. Old Trafford is not in Manchester - the suggestion is to call them Stretford United ha ha .. good place to have some banter is bluemoon ...

 

Just a pity there are so many kiddy comments on there when we visit . For every 1 sensible constructive comment , there are at least 3 by total prats . Already lost interest in their site after a few visits . <_<

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Just a pity there are so many kiddy comments on there when we visit . For every 1 sensible constructive comment , there are at least 3 by total prats . Already lost interest in their site after a few visits . <_<

 

 

Yes .. unfortunatly we have been inundated with WUM's, RAGS, and every other imaginable imbicile these past few weeks putting in their two penneth worth - normally a load of dross - but get through that and it's decent stuff. They are getting filtered out !!

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I know its only his first game and i may be jumping the gun, but if he continues to do well I hope there is some deal at the end of it. It will be gutting having to give him back at the end of the season. If we havent got an agreement to buy (which it seems from all reports is the case) we dont stand a chance of keeping him. Some other club will prob snap him up - can't see him wanting to return to city unless hughes goes.

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He was brilliant Steve, absolutely brilliant. If that's what he's going to give week in week out I'll happily eat my words about him.

 

Quite possibly, the most positive post you have ever made. ;)

 

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No one has criticised him for wearing (black gloves? not in photo) and a body warmer yet!

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No one has criticised him for wearing (black gloves? not in photo) and a body warmer yet!

 

He can wear a wooly muffler and a mink codpiece and no-one will complain if he keeps scoring Louis :P !

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-From a Bolton Forum

 

Jô has signed for everton on loan for the rest of the season.....hope he dosnt get off to a flier against us this weekend???
great news for us, hope he plays he's effin garbage!

 

He's better than your defence mate :rolleyes:

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well i didnt bet on him to be the first scorer and other then that all i can say he is impressive. but i will have to see how he goes through to the end of the season.

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I know its only his first game and i may be jumping the gun, but if he continues to do well I hope there is some deal at the end of it. It will be gutting having to give him back at the end of the season. If we havent got an agreement to buy (which it seems from all reports is the case) we dont stand a chance of keeping him. Some other club will prob snap him up - can't see him wanting to return to city unless hughes goes.

 

 

there might be an option to buy

 

http://msnsport.skysports.com/story/0,1952...4891550,00.html

 

moyesy seams to think so anyway :)

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The 3-0 win over Bolton saw Jô become the first Blues player to score two goals on their début since Tony Cottee in 1988.Not only that, but his last-minute penalty meant Everton fans witnessed two different players score from the spot in open play in the same game for the first time in the Club's history.Jô is the fourth striker in four years to score on his senior Everton début, following James Vaughan, Andrew Johnson and Yakubu.

 

Smashed a few records for us against Bolton.

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Lets not get too carried away with this lad although first signs are very good. He went through a torrid time at Citeh, I'm sure that Sparky could see he was under performing. Moyes has a talent for bring people like this through, look at Mikel, Timmy, Jags and Lescott. No prem club was prepared to take a chance with them yet each could walk into most Prem side now.

 

I hope that Jô does succeed as it will be a blessing in the long term. The lad himself has said all the right things following his début, if he falls in love with GP and us lot he will want to stay. I cannot believe that there is not deal in place for a season end transfer, whats the point of signing him, we are not a kindergarten for a team many places below us in the league

 

What does concern me is the fact that if Jô suddenly starts cracking goals in all over the place who will the Arabs look to as a successor to Hughes in the summer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! B) <_<

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Lets not get too carried away with this lad although first signs are very good. He went through a torrid time at Citeh, I'm sure that Sparky could see he was under performing. Moyes has a talent for bring people like this through, look at Mikel, Timmy, Jags and Lescott. No prem club was prepared to take a chance with them yet each could walk into most Prem side now.

 

I hope that Jô does succeed as it will be a blessing in the long term. The lad himself has said all the right things following his début, if he falls in love with GP and us lot he will want to stay. I cannot believe that there is not deal in place for a season end transfer, whats the point of signing him, we are not a kindergarten for a team many places below us in the league

 

What does concern me is the fact that if Jô suddenly starts cracking goals in all over the place who will the Arabs look to as a successor to Hughes in the summer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! B) <_<

 

I agree with you completely Jimmy, but the problem is I can't see Man City letting him go for a decent price to us, I think we'd have to offload somebody like Yakubu in order to fund the move...

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With the money that Manchester City paid for him I can't see him coming to us cheap. We need to start making plans on how to raise the money. If selling Yakubu is the option then so be it. Before he was injured he was just as shite and we were all calling for him to be dropped, Jô would be a good replacement and one who has already proved he can score goals. His performances for CSKA & his début shows how good he can be.

 

I hope Hughes does let him come as it would be the right thing to do, just with what they paid for him it could be easier said than done. It's not impossible though, if we want him enough and he wants to stay then Manchester might just have to sell.

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With the money that Manchester City paid for him I can't see him coming to us cheap. We need to start making plans on how to raise the money. If selling Yakubu is the option then so be it. Before he was injured he was just as shite and we were all calling for him to be dropped, Jô would be a good replacement and one who has already proved he can score goals. His performances for CSKA & his début shows how good he can be.

 

I hope Hughes does let him come as it would be the right thing to do, just with what they paid for him it could be easier said than done. It's not impossible though, if we want him enough and he wants to stay then Manchester might just have to sell.

 

Dark do you think there's any chance that Man City would do a swap deal with Jô for Yakubu?

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Now that is an interesting question TC. It's a deal that I would be happy to do, Yakubu can go for me, he's not been performing well this season and we can see his lazyness coming through. He's done it other clubs such as Middlesbrough and Portsmouth and its starting to happen here, a swap would be a good thing.

 

Let's look at the Manchester City strike-force;

 

-Bojinov

-Robinhio

-Vassell

-Caiecido

-Evans

-Benjani

-Sturridge

-Bellamy

 

Thats the strikers that City currenly have in their first team. Bojinov, Robinhio and Bellamy are the only one's that I would call 'decent' Vassell has had his time and will probably retire where he is, Evans is still a young lad along with Sturridge. Caiecido I don't know enough about and Benjani isn't that good of a player. He's been over-looked at both Pompy & City now. He's not for the Premiership.]

 

From this, they have three good strikers, strikers that could probably fit into any team (especially Robinhio & Bellamy) so they would welcome another. One with experiance in the Premier League and one who on paper can score goals - Yakubu.

 

We all know what he's like, he's played for us. We know him inside and out. IMO he would be better off at City and would work well in a swap deal. With a little bit of persuasion I think City would actually accept. Hope it works out :)

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Now that is an interesting question TC. It's a deal that I would be happy to do, Yakubu can go for me, he's not been performing well this season and we can see his lazyness coming through. He's done it other clubs such as Middlesbrough and Portsmouth and its starting to happen here, a swap would be a good thing.

 

Let's look at the Manchester City strike-force;

 

-Bojinov

-Robinhio

-Vassell

-Caiecido

-Evans

-Benjani

-Sturridge

-Bellamy

 

Thats the strikers that City currenly have in their first team. Bojinov, Robinhio and Bellamy are the only one's that I would call 'decent' Vassell has had his time and will probably retire where he is, Evans is still a young lad along with Sturridge. Caiecido I don't know enough about and Benjani isn't that good of a player. He's been over-looked at both Pompy & City now. He's not for the Premiership.]

 

From this, they have three good strikers, strikers that could probably fit into any team (especially Robinhio & Bellamy) so they would welcome another. One with experiance in the Premier League and one who on paper can score goals - Yakubu.

 

We all know what he's like, he's played for us. We know him inside and out. IMO he would be better off at City and would work well in a swap deal. With a little bit of persuasion I think City would actually accept. Hope it works out :)

 

Cheers for the insight :)

 

I agree with you that he would fit into a side like City, although with all these striking options I think he'd be reluctant to play for them. I'd imagine though they might offload some of these strikers i.e. Benjani at the end of the season, Yakubu might be a welcomed replacement, but he might not like it as his game time may be limited...

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you all take the piss. jo did well in russia and one game in the prem, compared to yaks 4 or 5 years constant high scoring in the prem, all due to when the whole team played shite yak did too.

 

bandwagon? maybe!

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IMO when we were playing poor Yakubu was the worst player. I woulden't mind seeing the back of him and he does seem to be a lazy player. This season he hasn't delievered the goods at all, he has been paid to score and scoring he hasn't. This season is one to forget for him. Next season he can be at Manchester City.

 

Jo is better than him.

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:huh:

 

Yakubu actually had scored a fair amount of goals when he wasn't injured, and that was in a team with zero confidence. I'm with Steve. Some of our fans have a very small mentality - we get quality competition for places so they want to shift the last one out, nulling the competition.

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DArk you have a very blinkered view. Yak as already stated is a quality striker I would say it is Saha and vic who should be leaving to make way for Jo. I can see him coming to us for a reduced price of around 6 - 7 mil.

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Hmmm :huh:

He dived , he got a bit of luck with his first goal , and scored a pen .

Let's not get carried away too soon guys . :)

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To pay for new signings of course SteveO! :)

 

efctaxi, I'm with you on that... but I've bit my tongue. It's too early to get carried away.

 

 

As I said earlier, its far too soon to say how he will go on but we can hope.

 

If Jo does turn it on under Moyes then Citeh's Arab owners will ask why, Hughes will be out of the door and the Ginger one asked in........................Moyes has said he wants to stay in the NW, he can't go to the Shite or Utd (remember Rooney), Citeh have money to spend............................just a possibility but it could become far more likely if Jo does succeed......................worth thinking about

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As I said earlier, its far too soon to say how he will go on but we can hope.

 

If Jo does turn it on under Moyes then Citeh's Arab owners will ask why, Hughes will be out of the door and the Ginger one asked in........................Moyes has said he wants to stay in the NW, he can't go to the Shite or Utd (remember Rooney), Citeh have money to spend............................just a possibility but it could become far more likely if Jo does succeed......................worth thinking about

 

Off topic - but what makes you think Rooney would get in the way of Moyes managing United ?

I always felt he had a great relationship with Ferguson , and when the big guy leaves , I'm still pretty sure Ferguson would have a say in the club , and the next manager .

I still think Moyes has a great chance of being there one day .

 

He is 3rd favourite here : http://odds.sportsxtra.co.uk/football/engl...rmanent-manager

 

O'Neill, Martin 4 3.6/1

Mourinho, J 4 4

Moyes, D 14 12.5/1

Capello, F 14 25

Ancellotti, C 25

Queiroz, C 25 19

Hughes, M 25 22

Lippi, M 25 54

Allardyce, S 28 149

Martinez, R 33

Pelligrini, M 33

Keane, R 33 16

Bruce, Steve 33 29

Ferguson, D 33 41

Strachan, G 33 41

Eriksson, SG 33 45

Hiddink, Guus 33 45

Hitzfeld, O 33 84

Rangnick, R 40

Cantona, E 50 89

Scolari, LF 50 109

Jol, Martin 50 129

Neville, G 50 139

Coyle, O 66

Cruyff, J 66

Deschamps, D 66

Klinsmann, J 66

Laudrup, M 66

Low, J 66

Rehhagel, O 66

Schuster, B 66

Van Basten, M 66

Coppell, S 66 69

Wenger, A 66 89

Curbishley, A 66 99

Van Gaal, L 66 159

Adriaanse, C 80

Ince, P 80 149

Smith, W 80 149

Burley, G 80 249

Houllier, G 80 299

Graham, G 100

Robins, M 100

McClair, B 100 43

Mcleish, A 100 89

McClaren, Steve 100 94

Robson, B 100 119

O'Leary, D 100 189

Ramos, J 100 249

Royle, J 100 329

Davies, B 39

Phelan, M 79

Arena, B 89

Solskjær, OG 89

Venables, T 149

Le Guen, P 249

Cuper, H 299

 

That shows just how highly Moyes is rated as a manager :D

 

Back on topic - I take it Jo won't be playing against City ?

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Jo did pretty well against Bolton, the team were on a high and played some good football.We need to ask ourselves what a fit Yakubu or Vaughan could have done in similar circumstances.The Yak, like a lot of strikers (but it appears Yak more than most) obviously do well when the team are doing well and creating things.Put the Yak in a very poor team and he isn't probably going to perform .Maybe a fully fit Yak would have destroyed Bolton.....maybe not!

 

How many strikers does a team need ?

 

On our books!

 

Yakubu....injured long term.

Vaughan....injured long term.

Sahah.....injured (on loan).....injury prone...as is Vaughan.

Anichebe...injured/not in favor....unproved!

Jutkiewicz...uninjured...unproved.

 

JO.....on loan.

 

Unless Jo does really well (ie leads the line well and scores plenty of goals) would we want him over the Yak, after all the Yak in a team full of confidence could be unstopable.

 

Lets just hope this is a Moyes master stroke and Jo plays his heart out for him (Moyes) and the team and we finish the season on a high.

What happens after that we can't predict, can we.

 

Credit the whole team/squad for doing so well with our injury problems.....and Jo (cup tied) or not, if we beat Villa in the cup, there will be two teams in the next round draw no one will want Everton and Man utd.

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Why get rid of anyone at all? We have a miniscule squad and a lot of our players have previous injuries and present ones, having extra bodies is a godsend just to keep you afloat, even if the players on the bench don't match up to the first squad.

 

Jo has a long half season ahead, but if we can get him, he looks like a talent and is only young so would be useful in the future. I can see him being very good with some experience.

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To early to tell how Jo will get on in the up and coming games but the early signs are good and if he can reproduce performances like the one against Bolton then he will be a welcome addition but as some have already said team confidence and all round performance has a big part to play if we where playing as we where at the start of the season and took Jo back then would he have performed aswell i would very much doubt it and the same can be said of Yakubu he was playing when for a Everton side far below par in all departments, He is a quality player and has proven to be a big threat and one of the premierships most consistant forwards a 145 goals in 326 games for club and country shows he is no hit and miss player and one we should keep hold of.

In terms of players the only one i would like to see the back of is Anichebe as he simply is not good enough and if we can generate any money from his departure it could go towards keeping Jo if he proves to be a hit other then that we have a depleted enough squad as it.

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Off topic - but what makes you think Rooney would get in the way of Moyes managing United ?

I always felt he had a great relationship with Ferguson , and when the big guy leaves , I'm still pretty sure Ferguson would have a say in the club , and the next manager .

I still think Moyes has a great chance of being there one day .

 

He is 3rd favourite here : http://odds.sportsxtra.co.uk/football/engl...rmanent-manager

 

O'Neill, Martin 4 3.6/1

Mourinho, J 4 4

Moyes, D 14 12.5/1

Capello, F 14 25

Ancellotti, C 25

efctaxi C22 100/8

 

That shows just how highly Moyes is rated as a manager :D

 

Back on topic - I take it Jo won't be playing against City ?

 

 

A certain court case, the fact that Rooney has made it clear he hates Moyes, he doesn't trust him one bit in which case he'd be saying goodbye to Utd, the Manc fans wouldn't want to lose Shrek now would they. I remain of the opinion that Citeh would chase Moyes especially if their failed player becomes a success

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as said why get shut of any striker. in the space of 2 weeks we lost all 4 strikers to injury if anything i still think we could do with another ,whatever you say about yak he is still consistant over a season to get around 20 goals and 20 goals in the premier is worth a lot of money ,even in poor sides , i know he goes through spells were he does not score but then agian he has a patch were he knocks them in for fun he may come back from this injury with a hunger ,making up for lost time , when moysey has finished with jo he will score goals regular but i think if that happens it will be for city ,

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Jo Loving Life At Everton

 

Brazilian striker Jo enjoyed a fantastic start to his loan spell at Everton on Saturday as he tripled his Premier League goal scoring tally on his Toffees debut.

 

The former Corinthians and CSKA Moscow striker scored just one league goal for Manchester City, but he found the back of the net twice for Everton against Bolton Wanderers in a 3-0 win. In addition, the Brazilian won the first penalty, which Mikel Arteta went on to score.

 

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