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Stubbs returns as Everton let Kroldrup go for cut-price £3m

 

Dominic Fifield

Friday January 20, 2006

The Guardian

 

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,1690710,00.html

 

Everton will reluctantly swallow a £2m loss on the Denmark international Per Kroldrup after sanctioning the centre-half's £3m sale to Fiorentina after less than two games for the Merseyside club, with Alan Stubbs returning as their surprise short-term replacement.

Kroldrup started only one match after his £5m transfer from Udinese, the 4-0 drubbing at Aston Villa last month, before making a belated home début as a substitute in Wednesday's FA Cup replay win over Millwall. That solid performance, albeit against limited Championship opposition, might have suggested he still had a future at the club but David Moyes will cut his losses instead and curtail the 26-year-old's four-year contract

 

Kroldrup's 147 minutes in the Everton first team have effectively cost the club more than £13,600 each. The Dane, hampered with injury and illness, flew to Florence yesterday to discuss personal terms and undertake a medical bemoaning his lack of opportunities at Goodison Park.

"When the opportunity came up I just had to take it," said Kroldrup, who will sign a 3½ year deal with the Serie A club. "I wanted to return to Italy and now there is no way back. I don't really feel as if I have had the chance to prove my worth."

 

Yet the surprise among Everton's fans at Kroldrup's sudden sale at such a loss will be matched by the return of their former captain Stubbs, who has been released after only six unsatisfying months at Sunderland. The 34-year-old will complete a free-transfer move today, resisting an offer from Derby County to sign until the end of the season.

 

Stubbs played 142 times for Everton in his first spell before leaving under something of a cloud last summer having played his part in steering Moyes's team to the verge of the Champions League. His relationship with his former employers appeared to have fractured for good after he claimed he had failed to re-sign for Everton because the club had proposed a one-year contract including a clause which related to the cancer he had overcome some four years previously.

 

The club disputed Stubbs's interpretation and insisted they were willing to omit the clause but only if the player was examined by an independent cancer specialist, something the defender did not do before his contract ran down last July. That impasse was never overcome, with the veteran defender eventually moving to Wearside. He made only 11 appearances for Mick McCarthy's side, the last of which was in the 3-0 FA Cup third-round victory over Northwich Victoria.

 

 

Apparently if this is factual ( Guradian are better than most @ not publishing pie in the sky) then it all get's even more murky & twisted....The powers that be squirm, wiggle & hide...were left to fathom WTF is going on...!!!

 

Not good enough.

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If this is true,its ridiculus,and frankly now its time for a wholesale change at the club.

 

We're turning into a laughing stock,as much as i think stubbsy is the man who shouldnt have been let go,to bring him back borders on lunacy.

 

Our beloved club is being run into the ground by cretanous fools who should not be allowaed to do this.

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Just goes to show that no-one at the club knows what they are doing.

 

Pistone is resigned when we can't bring a new left back. Then he gets injured and we manage to bring in 2 left backs.

 

We sell a £5m striker for £3.6m and bring in a 34 year old.

 

Maybe if we are lucky DM will bring back Marcus Bent on deadline day for £4.9m :angry:

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must now officially be the most f*cked up club in the entire football league --- what a f*ckin joke...........what bothers me is that moyes is either not to upset by this debacle or simply not prepared to speak up --- either way if he is happy with the situation, then he's not the right man for the job, and if he isn't (which he shouldn't be!!!!!) then he would justified in resigning!!! either way, I think this could be the beginning of the end for him.........alan stubbs --- you gotta be f*ckin kidding, he's been even shitter for sunderland than he was for us last season!!! imagine him and weir together, we'll be totally screwed!!!

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so when Mr Moyes talks about getting the right player at the right price is this what we are talking about???

 

It seems that when he shops in Harrods he hasn't got a clue - only Yobo has upto now been worth the money spent and he has been prone to lapses, he is more comfortable with the security and no risk of free signings and bargain basement players - where expectations can not be put as high. Well sorry board, sorry Bill, sorry David we are Evertonians and many of whom recall the club winning leagues, cups and being in the running for top quality players. Whilst I understand we are not rolling in cash this is an absolute disgrace and the clubs name has sunk even lower. From the start of the season we have gone from being close to the golden goose of champions league football and now we are resigning yet another defender who we let go as we needed to progress - why have we resigned Stubbs? (no offence to Alan btw a great player who is now near the end of his career)

 

I hate David O'leary - but at least he has the bottle to question his clubs ambition regarding money etc. We have been suckered into believing we were going in the right direction - we aren't - we are going backwards. I wasn't happy a few weeks back - i'm even more unhappy. P.s a special thanks to the powers that be for allowing Anelka to take a snipe at us - we never had a chance of signing him - but then again you knew that

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Pat    2

Strong words haf, of which many will relate.

 

Neither the club or Alan evetually came out of the summer debacle with a greatdeal of dignity.

 

However & No offense, this reeks of desperation.

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frankly nothing surprises me at Everton anymore

 

why is it that other premiership clubs can sign quality young defenders

 

like wba with curtis and spurs with dawson

 

and we have to resign stubbs

 

the club is joke, billy and keith have to go, and get someone in who knows how to run a football club before this once great club is ruined completely

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Its on Evertons website site now.

 

And Hafnia agree totally with your post.

 

The club is a joke and needs to be sorted out straight away

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It says on the Everton website that we have agreed a deal with Sunderland.

 

Which most prob means we agreed to pay then money to buy him back

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I sit in between two liverpool in work and even they are bewildered, they aren't even taking joy out of this believe it or not. I think many real fans across the country empathise with other fans when the powers that be at the club are taking honest decent fans for a ride - let's face it - it is starting to happen at Man Ure.

 

If the board want the club run in this manner then we may as well have signed Harry Redknapp - (there is one more relegation place up for grabs as portsmouth will escape)

 

I heard that Kroldrup had to leave due to not being able to handle the rollickings in training - too many stories regarding lost dressing room for my liking. One benefit of having Stubbs back is that he is not afraid to speak his mind if thinsg aren't going well behind the scenes.

 

Pat - you are right - desperation times, desparation measures, desparing fans

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It says on the Everton website that we have agreed a deal with Sunderland.

 

Which most prob means we agreed to pay then money to buy him back

 

says on bbc website that we've got him now too.

 

says on there kroldrup's gone for £3.6m (so if we take 2mil profit on Bent, we've broken even) - but really we've broken even and lost Bent (seen as Stubbs was here in the first place...)

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Wonder if they will take the armband of Weir now??? If Weir keeps it and he is not playing will it then go to Stubbs instead of Neville????

 

Wonder what the players must think about all this

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i think davie has lost the plot bad judgment on most of his buyswe need a boss who is a good judge of players steve copple is quite good in the transfer market :(

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"in moyes we trust" - maybe not in the transfer market anymore....

 

thing is, i reckon moyes never wanted stubbs to go anyway (he was crucial last season) and i reckon now BK's authorised Kroldrup's sale and Moyes has said well in that case swallow your pride and bring Stubbs back....

 

i don't reckon Moyes is happy...

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We're turning into a laughing stock now.

 

To think 6 short months ago we where dreaming of a bit of a cup run in europe,now we're back to signing players the manager deemed not good enough last summer.

 

It is a shamble,the club is a shambles,and its a very sad day for all evertionians.

 

 

Why the hell we dont bring sharpy out of retirement is beyond me,the way things are at the moment we need him.

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im normally ever the optimist (things may well be ok on the pitch the last few weeks) but for once i agree with every thin fozzie has said in the whole time ive been comin on here. this in/out transfer has hit hoome, hard!

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What a joke this is we could have at least signed a young defender oh well maybe if the rumours about blueboys21 were true we might see him back on the forum. Moyes really needs to sign someone with class or whose a prospect for the future if not he has to give youth a chance.

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Moyes did want Stubbs last summer, he was offered a new contract. I'm not overjoyed with the signing either, but I'd rather have Stubbs in the team than Weir.

 

As for losing money on Kroldrup, I wonder if we really have. I can't believe we paid £5m upfront for him, these payments are always staggered and dependent on other things (appearances etc.). Perhaps the £3.6m we're going to get is what we've already paid????

 

I think our priority is getting a new striker rather than having three top class centrebacks, so as long as we've got the money now and use it wisely, I don't think the situation is as bad as it seems.

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dont get me wrong i dont like the situation but.....

 

with bringin stubbs in on the cheap we get a player we know all about and the players know how to play with so will not need to settle in and gives us a chance to have a look around for the summer to bring a quality young defender in

 

also it frees up the money to spend on a really good striker so i don't see it as bad as first thought

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dont get me wrong i dont like the situation but.....

 

with bringin stubbs in on the cheap we get a player we know all about and the players know how to play with so will not need to settle in and gives us a chance to have a look around for the summer to bring a quality young defender in

 

also it frees up the money to spend on a really good striker so i don't see it as bad as first thought

 

i agree - but will we sign that "really good striker"?

 

i doubt it somehow..

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Well 15 minutes for Stubbs and anyone else to sign to be able to play against the Arse.

 

Somehow won't hold my breeth for anything other than maybe Stubbs signing in time.

 

Wonder if a team has ever one 7 v 0 two games in a row :(

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He has signed and goes into the squad for the Arse.

 

No mention of anyone else though.

 

And I so beleived that Nugent was going to sign today as well

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well i don't mind him being at the club but for kroldrup to leave and stubbs come back really isn't a good thing.

 

If i see weir and stubbs walk out together on saturday i'll fuckin cry! they'll be absaloutely slaughtered for pace just how they always have been.

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i think getting Stubbs back would be a step backwards why don't they get a centre half who can actually last longer than a season lol

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To me we've signed a defender for £5 million without either wanting him, or scouting him properly, because if he was that good, we'd want to keep him. Unless theres more to this (ie long term injury problem).

 

Seems crazy, it seemed we had a good partner for Joey with more than capable cover from Ferrari, but bringing back Stubbs for me is not looking anymore forward than May.

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Its another panic jobbie, like Pistone. we fook im off cos he,s over the hill and then bring him back cos nobody else will come here. :blink:

 

Cant even get in the Sunderland side. FFS what are we playing at. :angry:

 

Gets more like Fat Bills pantomime as every week goes by.

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Its another panic jobbie, like Pistone. we fook im off cos he,s over the hill and then bring him back cos nobody else will come here. :blink:

 

Cant even get in the Sunderland side. FFS what are we playing at. :angry:

 

Gets more like Fat Bills pantomime as every week goes by.

Yes it is a rather sad assesmant of our situation that we sign a defender one of the worst teams in PL history didnt want..

 

The mind boggles,it really does.

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Its another panic jobbie, like Pistone. we fook im off cos he,s over the hill and then bring him back cos nobody else will come here. :blink:

 

Cant even get in the Sunderland side. FFS what are we playing at. :angry:

 

Gets more like Fat Bills pantomime as every week goes by.

 

 

regardless of what has been said about the pro's and cons of stubbs, the above post hits the nail on the head ---- we're taking a sunderland reject for f*ck sakes!!!

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He couldn't settle in Sunderland as he was basically commuting there.

 

I don't think his heart was in moving there at all - He knows Everton, the Manager, the set up, the player (most). No settleing in period - I bet he is cockahoop about coming back.

 

He is not the same player in a Sunderland shirt as he is in an Everton shirt. He will be playing to make sure he can be at Goodison more than 6 months.

 

Ferrari showing good form and wanting to stay at centre back is probabley another reason Kroldroup left.

 

Still wish Yobo was not in the African Cup though, player of the season for me so far, and will be missed, whoever plays at CB.

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He couldn't settle in Sunderland as he was basically commuting there.

 

I don't think his heart was in moving there at all - He knows Everton, the Manager, the set up, the player (most). No settleing in period  - I bet he is cockahoop about coming back.

 

He is not the same player in a Sunderland shirt as he is in an Everton shirt. He will be playing to make sure he can be at Goodison more than 6 months.

 

Ferrari showing good form and wanting to stay at centre back is probabley another reason Kroldroup left.

 

Still wish Yobo was not in the African Cup though, player of the season for me so far, and will be missed, whoever plays at CB.

 

Couldn't have hit the nail on the head much harder there (every para)

 

Some common sense is required.

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I think we have to remember that for the most of last season the most succesfull central defensive partnership was Weir and Stubbs and they contributed massively.Okay their best days are beyond them but its not the end of the world. What is important is the money generated goes to a fast forward who can copliment Beattie who for me has been outstanding in recent weeks.

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