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That vid's no longer available Louis . “Our most important game coming up now is off the pitch,” he said (Elstone). “This is a monumental couple of months for this football club, an historic couple of months. “We’ve done everything we can to see if there are any alternatives for the club, and in our absolute opinion there aren’t any. “If this club is to continue to compete at the top end of the Premier League, then we need a favourable decision from the inquiry in the early part of next year. This is a very, very critical game for us to win. Realistic appraisal of the situation or scare-mongering? Going to be a bumpy ride over the coming weeks....hope we get the right decision for the club .

But how do you know what the score might have been had he not played? Vaughan up front or Pienaar starting with TC pushing further forward we may have won. We'll never know .

Why thank-you so much Mark, that's uncommonly decent of you . Back on topic... "My Old Man's a Dustman" by Lonnie Donegan was Number One on the day I was born. Strangely enough my dad wasn't a dustman .

Lot of laughs to be had in that . Came across it a lot when I worked in addiction....be interested to know what proportion of them are on some chemical or other. Must be very high I'd have thought.

Is this you then Bill ?

Think training camps would be more effective in building spirit and working on formation/tactics etc. Not always, you need an occasional game but there are too many. Also "injured" players like Gerrard would be less likely to be pulled out by their clubs. The "keeping players on their toes" argument crashes and burns if you take Lescott as the example .

Think international friendlies are a bit of a waste of time and pretty meaningless personally. Having said that it's not nice to lose to Germany....although I think we probably will.

Just occurred to me that he has absolutely no votes at all in any MOTM thread this whole season. That's fifteen matches and 450 odd votes without him getting a single one. And he won it last year. Shocking.

Comment on the BBC... "What are City going to spend £200m on when they are in the Championship next season? Probably more strikers…"

Then again what do I know ...Yak 1-1!

Was about to say something very similar...but I'd take off TC rather than Osman.

Current Player of the Year standings.... Jagielka 84 Osman 62 Fellaini 49 Saha 42 Baines 36 Arteta 34 Neville 33 Cahill 24 Castillo 18 Howard 15 Anichebe 13 Vaughan 11 Yakubu 9 Baadhi 8 Pienaar 5 Yobo 5 Baxter 4 Rodwell 4 Valente 2 Hibbert 1 MOTM winners.... Blackburn (H)...Mikel Arteta West Brom (A)...Leon Osman Portsmouth (H)...Leighton Baines Stoke City (A)...Tim Cahill Standard Liege (H)...Segundo Castillo Hull City (A)...Leon Osman Blackburn (A)...Louis Saha Liverpool (H)...Phil Jagielka Standard Liege (A)...Phil Jagielka Newcastle (H)...Leighton Baines Arsenal (A)...Marouane Fellaini Manchester United (H)...Marouane Fellaini Bolton (A)...Marouane Fellaini Fulham (H)...Phil Jagielka West Ham (A)...Louis Saha

As someone once said, "It's a funny old game." Best we've played for weeks and we're losing .

Decent stream here for anyone who needs one... http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/343147 Not a cloud in the sky .

Everton: Howard, Neville, Yobo, Jagielka, Lescott, Arteta, Fellaini, Cahill, Osman, Yakubu, Saha. Subs: Nash, Hibbert, Baines, Castillo, Vaughan, Pienaar, Anichebe. Middlesbrough: Turnbull, Hoyte, Riggott, Pogatetz, Taylor, O'Neil, Digard, Arca, Downing, Alves, Sanli. Subs: Jones, Emnes, Adam Johnson, Wheater, Franks, Grounds, Walker.

Taxi for Louis! Hmmm....a Dutch winger...don't we already have one of those ?

There's the argument that it's easier to get into the squad than out of it....that explains Joleon's inclusion maybe. I've not seen Mancienne at all so can't comment but it seems a bit odd when he's never even played at the top level domestically (does happen sometimes...Steve Bull for eg and further back Keith Newton before he joined Everton....but they got in by performing consistantly for years). Capello has plainly not seen Everton at all this year or surely Jags would be ahead of Lescott, particularly, like you say, as he's supposedly trying people out in friendlies. So in answer to your question....probably not, unless we all are .

It's happened... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/i...als/7729516.stm Capello will shortly be getting a letter from Craccer telling him how little he knows about football .

Aaah....brings back memories of the Great ToffeeTalk Apostrophe War of 2006....happy day's' .

Can be deceptive though Bill... How about a run of eleven league games made up of two wins, three draws and six losses... ....conceding sixteen goals and scoring only four along the way. That would make a pretty poor top flight manager yes? Relegation form for sure. Sack him? A lot of people wanted to . Everton's last eleven league games of 1983 .

If he's as compulsive a liar in real life as he is online it's not surprising.....tough to get any mates I'd have thought. Shame.

Forty points would be nearer the mark . Luckily we've been spared the embarrassment by NZ.....and because the ground appeared virtually empty not very many people witnessed it. If they just keep their heads down and sneak straight home we can all pretend that it never happened . What a farce.

Just what kind of medication are you on ? The first statement is hugely open to question and I can maybe at a stretch see where you're coming from with Keane (though I disagree completely), but Southgate ffs . I'm stunned and speechless. O'Neill's head and shoulders above the rest imo.

Think it would have been a bit harsh to lose all three, but we certainly didn't deserve to win all three either so point taken. Don't see how he can improve on his current level of performance...unless he starts scoring goals .

NP here Bill^^^^ cheers mate. This is on a full edit Have you tried a quick edit. ?? oooh, never tried that before :guitar: .