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16 hours ago, holystove said:
I'm sorry John but that's not how any of this works. If there is no deal between the EU and the UK that put tarriffs at 0% on cars , there won't be a 0% tarriff on cars.
They only way to "avoid" these tarriffs is if the UK government promises to pay the 10% tarriff instead of Nissan. Reportedly they got this promise from Theresa May in 2016 and I assume Nissan is still counting on that. (https://www.irishtimes.com/business/manufacturing/uk-letter-vowed-to-protect-nissan-from-brexit-fallout-1.3781568)
Coincidentally such 'State Aid' would be illegal as an EU member state. So of course EU to UK, Nissan would still have to pay those tarriffs. I don't know if this influenced the decision.
But the French government can inject multi-millions into Renault? Still, France and Germany are law's unto themselves in the EU and Germany's stance in this respect could signal the end of the euro and the end of the EU as we know it.
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21 hours ago, holystove said:
70% of Nissan cars made in Sunderland are exported to the EU. The UK market is way too small to sustain the plant.
My guess, Nissan is crossing their fingers for no tarriffs on cars between EU and UK on cars; doesnt look likely though.
I don't think companies like Nissan 'cross their fingers' on a deal of this scale. I suspect that they have had numerous discussions with the EU, behind closed doors - which appears to be the way things get done in the EU.
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1 hour ago, MikeO said:
I'm not pinning it on Brexit, I was just pointing out that they're not, "closing their Barcelona plant and moving it to Sunderland" as John suggested.
Mike, I note that your extract is from the Guardian. Just to provide 'balance', The Telegraph starts its article 'The Japanese company announced its Spanish factory will shut to save costs. Sunderland will become Nissan's European manufacturing hub as a result'. Sounds like 'closing their Barcelona plant and moving it to Sunderland' to me.
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On 02/10/2019 at 13:19, MikeO said:
You must have missed the latest news on this as I'm sure you would have posted it if you hadn't. Nissan are closing their Barcelona plant and moving it to Sunderland.
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19 minutes ago, pete0 said:
Don't know what school you went to that taught you about their whisky preference. They are all murderers, they all are responsible for deaths of the very people they should be protecting. Mao starved his own, Hitler used chemistry. BJ has done both. I hope one day you read that response back and are have grown enough as a person to realise how callous it is. People are dying, needlessly, people are suffering because of this regime.
Care to give a proper answer rather than make jokes when some people don't even have food in their stomachs?
So at last we seem to have got somewhere. You were comparing Boris to Mao and Hitler in the context of genocide. At first, I thought it was just your usual outrageous OTT but I now realise you are serious. You really need to see someone and get some counselling. To use Scouse terminology 'get your bumps felt'.
Don't bother responding as I can't be bothered wasting time on you.
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1 hour ago, pete0 said:
So does the conservative government. How many lives before you think it's not okay what they're doing?
As for blaming China that's very xenophobic to the point you could even be mistaken for quoting Donald Trump. Would you say the same of any other virus?
Any how your answer to how you can defend Conservatives seems to be it's china's fault... So even if we do blame China for starting it (and we'd lose people because of it). If you look at the rest of the world are reaction has not only caused more deaths it's encouraged them. Look at Japan who are closer to China, has twice our population and a higher proportion who are high risk. So at the very worst I'd expect our loses to be half of theirs, yet we've lost twice as many as them, 4 times the expectated worst case scenario. So if you do truly blame China you'd be blaming them for 7,500 people. That still leaves blood on the hands of every tory for the other 25,000 and counting.
Speaking of death tolls you've not addressed how the death toll between all the murderers is relevant?
What is the context in which schoolchildren 50 years from now discuss Boris in relation to Hitler and Mao? Is it genocide or which single malt they prefer?
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15 hours ago, pete0 said:
Don't see how a death toll is relevant. I'm distraught that people are starving to death in the 21st century. How many people are you happy to starve to death before you think it's wrong?
It'd be a miracle if the death rate falls completely. But the government is actively pursuing a plan that will kill more. How can you defend them?
As for the bit in bold I hope it made you feel better for a second, that said I hope the following second you realised you're projecting bollocks and then actually gave a thought to the people in this country who have already died needlessly and without those who love them around them.
China have got a lot to answer for.
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On 08/05/2020 at 14:44, pete0 said:
Found it a disgrace that he used Churchill as his avatar. Genuinely thought he was a torybot second time round.
I find it mad that BJ is still in office. Herd immunity was a disaster and I wouldn't be surprised if kids 50 years from now are taught about him in history alongside Hitler and Mao.
I don't know enough about politics but surely there's some way to remove him; he's personally responsible for the death of 1000s.
History reckons that Mao was responsible for 40+ million deaths, Stalin and Hitler 20+ million each. Don't think Boris is in that category. I hope you are not too distraught if the death rate from the virus falls. Most of us will be delighted.
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57 minutes ago, MikeO said:
Good one that Mike.
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3 hours ago, Matt said:
I’m amazed and disgusted that there’s not a petition going around, at least that I’ve seen, to block it all. The Brexit petition rightly got created and millions of people to sign in days.
I’ll try to create one now that I think of it, but last time I was blocked because of residency/lack of acknowledgement of existence by my homeland so I’ve not tried for a while.I think the reason that there''s not a petition going around is that people saw what a waste of time the Brexit petition was.
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1 hour ago, Palfy said:
Have they come recommended or out the phone book, thing is Mike we are not getting any younger mate, there comes a time in every mans life when we deserve to take it a bit easier and put our feet up, I’ve been telling Mandy that for the last 30 years the cheeky cow called me lazy
The going rate for a gardener around here is about £20 an hour or £15 cash in the hand, a friend of mine does mine for 20 cash in the hand, you don’t need a Monty Dom mate just someone who can use a lawnmower and keep shrubs in check.
Exactly right Palfy. I have a guy comes in late autumn every year. Does all the pruning of trees and shrubs and tidies the flower beds. I have another guy who comes in early spring and scarifies the lawn, front and back. I can still mow the lawns but as most of our garden is lawn and shrubs that is the only work I have to do.
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47 minutes ago, Matt said:
Really is. I’m quite interested in military history, and it’s fascinating reading about the Swiss.
I thought the purpose of the Swiss army was to protect the Pope!
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32 minutes ago, Palfy said:
Chach you are part of the problem even though you think you know the answers you don’t stop adding to the argument against democracy.
Who these last conservatives are that were chased off I’m not sure, but let’s not forget this forum is for Evertonian’s to discuss matters of Everton FC, these other threads are there if you wish to use them more as a sideline, but there are the odd few who only want to engage in the political threads and when they fallout with someone or there views are challenged some throw the towel in and leave.
Personally when I’ve had an argument a slap on the wrist or whatever in the political threads, I still engage in the Everton threads because that’s what I’m on this forum for, for me those that have left because of there politics and are here just because of there politics aren’t a loss no matter what there political persuasion.
COYB and not the Tory type
What you don't highlight though Palfy is that we are ALL Toffee's on here, which, as you rightly say, is what the website is all about. Even on a non-football thread, I don't expect to be called a Nazi and a murderer. When I first joined this website I thought I had found the holy grail. It was brilliant. Unfortunately and particularly since Brexit, it has deteriorated. The Mod's have no balls and let anything go - as long as it fits in with their political views. The only critical post by a Mod that I have seen, was to RPG and his post didn't accuse anyone of being a Nazi or a murderer.
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9 minutes ago, Matt said:
He's a politician, he thinks people need/want to see him.
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On 25/04/2020 at 12:57, Matt said:
Was my go to the 2 times I got jumped! In the words of the great Sam Vimes “if it means you get to fight another day, fight dirty”
Yes, if someone throws punches at me in the street then as far as I'm concerned the Marquess of Queensbury rules are redundant.
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19 hours ago, pete0 said:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/brexit-transition-period-extension-barnier-113347045.html
No surprise here. Tories being difficult and not putting anything concrete.
I think you mean that Barnier got the hump because we didn't accept everything he demanded.
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On 16/04/2020 at 22:52, MikeO said:
BBC constantly plugging the Peter Crouch podcast does my nut in, I want to punch the man in the face (and I've never punched anyone ever, only been punched, sympathy please).
Actually I did punch the odd person in my brief experience of martial arts, but they were trying to punch me at the same time and we had gloves on so not the same.
I never believed in punching anyone - not if I had a stout pair of boots on.
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On 04/04/2020 at 23:50, markjazzbassist said:
My son made 6 years old today. I’m so thankful for a healthy and happy son, I love him. Thankful for the wife and daughter too, but today is his day. Lots of Pokémon gifts and a razor scooter, even got some cupcakes delivered in the lockdown. Simple day but joy filled. Very grateful.
Mark, only just spotted this. Belated happy birthday to your son. 6 year old birthday's are just happy memories for me. My eldest is 60 this year! Still love them though. Make the most of their childhood Mark, it will soon be nattering teenager's.
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There is a rumour that we are considering signing Captain Tom Moore as he gets through more work than Gylfi?
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28 minutes ago, Palfy said:
My auntie died on Wednesday from Covid 19 she was 98 we all thought she would make 100 sadly not to be, but she had a good innings.
The most upsetting part for us was she was the last of the generation from my parents age in the family.
But we’ve also had some great news, my brother in law on my wife’s side of the family was moved out of Kings London ICU today he’s been in there for 6 days, he’s been like a brother to me and I’ve been feeling it a bit I’ll be honest I didn’t think he would make it.
Hope everyone and your friends and family are doing well.Palfy, sorry to hear your sad news. Some good news too though. We are doing OK and hope that you and all your family and friends are keeping well.
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Norman Hunter has died from Covid-19. RIP.
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1 hour ago, MikeO said:
I said that references to the nazi party are, in my opinion, rhetorical (or at least should be). 'The Tories and their voters are starving people to death' makes no reference to the nazi party.
As I've said I don't agree with comparisons to Hitler because there is no comparison but it's also undeniable, again in my opinion formed by looking at the evidence, that austerity has caused people to die so I can understand people being upset at the party responsible for it.
Short memory. Why was austerity necessary? Labour were at least honest and left their infamous note in the Treasury - 'There is no money left'. Every Labour Government since WW2 has destroyed the economy, Gordon Brown did a better job than most.
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