Ghoat

Trump, like GWB, makes for a great scape goat for the real powers behind the scenes. Difference between them is that Trump actually seems to enjoy playing the villain, GWB was just dim. 

So, we lost 2 starters (1 who wasn't ours anyway), one bench winger who was goalless last year, made a loaned starter permanent,  added a starting MF and a high quality squad player (Delph/Gambin not sure which is which), added a widely coveted 19 year old striker who will likely play 30+ games and maybe start many of those, added quality competition/cover at RB and a quality young #2GK
For a net of 15M. That's....pretty amazing.

So, we lost 2 starters (1 who wasn't ours anyway), one bench winger who was goalless last year, made a loaned starter permanent,  added a starting MF and a high quality squad player (Delph/Gambin not sure which is which), added a widely coveted 19 year old striker who will likely play 30+ games and maybe start many of those, added quality competition/cover at RB and a quality young #2GK
For a net of 15M. That's....pretty amazing.

So, we lost 2 starters (1 who wasn't ours anyway), one bench winger who was goalless last year, made a loaned starter permanent,  added a starting MF and a high quality squad player (Delph/Gambin not sure which is which), added a widely coveted 19 year old striker who will likely play 30+ games and maybe start many of those, added quality competition/cover at RB and a quality young #2GK
For a net of 15M. That's....pretty amazing.

Agree. I'm sure we are all a little disappointed that we didn't add a CB and/or winger today. But, if we had landed Zaha and Rojo and spent 100-120M doing it, I think many would be unhappy feeling we let teams bend us over. we 
Based on nothing, I think Brands did try to get Zaha, but likely told CP we wanted him, but we didn't "need" him at any cost, so piss off - see ya Saturday. I'll call you in January, and ask how things are in the relegation zone - is Wilford enjoying his football this year?

Agree. I'm sure we are all a little disappointed that we didn't add a CB and/or winger today. But, if we had landed Zaha and Rojo and spent 100-120M doing it, I think many would be unhappy feeling we let teams bend us over. we 
Based on nothing, I think Brands did try to get Zaha, but likely told CP we wanted him, but we didn't "need" him at any cost, so piss off - see ya Saturday. I'll call you in January, and ask how things are in the relegation zone - is Wilford enjoying his football this year?

lol yeah, bu that;s just  the Sheriff, consider this....
 
"Hey, I'd like to be, um, like president of the America"
"OK, qualifications - have you ever been the president of a country before?"
"Um, no"
"World leaders - are you friends with any, speak a foreign language maybe?"
"Sorta, I've seen Spanglish twice"
"Ok, well, have you ever been in charge of a military? Nuclear subs, stealth bombers, battle tanks, launch codes for MIRV's and such?"
"Um, what?"
"Are you 35, born in America, no felonies?"
"yeah"
"Fuck yeah dude, you're qualified to lead the free world, sign here!"
"Sweet"
 
Makes sheriff requirements seems reasonable, no?

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/2019/07/31/mississippi-state-football-quarterback-competition-joe-moorhead-tommy-stevens-keytaon-thompson-msu/1857604001/
Also, can we make this a general American Football thread?
 

Even better for me as I only have to wait until noon here in the states

My neighbor who I hang out with all the time is from Detroit (as is his wife). He still proudly wears his T-Shirt from the perfect 0-16 season "Lions 2008 Preseason Champs 4-0" Reminds me, after I go check the ffl, it's probably time to start a football ('Merican) thread

Bastard 🤣

To Sparty's point, the framers of the US Constitution were a bit paranoid about the central governments powers. A significant portion of the Constitution is restrictions on the power of the central government with various checks and balances, putting the military under elected civilian authority and the rights of states. Whatever was not specifically granted, or prohibited within the Constitution fell to the states. 
Generally speaking you had a mixture of lay people and thinkers of the day that had the opportunity to create what they considered an ideal country or an ideal system of government. The intent was for people to be governed by the laws of the state they chose to live in, and for the states to send their own elected representatives to the two legislative bodies  for a few days, hash out laws that affected the Union, and then go back home to their jobs and let the states take care of the rest. 
For 13 States and 2-3 million people it worked. Almost 250 years later, it's 50 states, 300+ million people and the document still works with little changes. There have only been 27 amendments in all that time, and 10 of those (Bill of Rights) included in the original Constitution so I don't really know why they count as amendments. And the first 10 were largely restricting the power of the federal government, and granting citizens protection from prosecution. I guess it will be fair to say the second amendment falls under both of those categories.
Regardless there have only been 17 actual changes since the Constitution was adopted, and several of those apply procedures for Congress. one said liquors illegal, and another one said nevermind no it's not.
There are probably maybe 10 "big" amendments, that range from the abolition of slavery, the rights of women to vote, voting age etc. It's not perfect and there have been some changes and interpretations and powers, but the framers did a pretty damn good job I'm creating something out of thin air that has had that few substantial changes over time.
And For better or worse, Americans tend to get a bit skeptical when you seriously talk about changes to the Constitution. It has worked stunningly well over the test of time, and there is a fear of making a substantial change within it that upsets any of the balances/checks of power or limits the rights of individuals or states that are expressly provided.
I do find it a little humorous or ironic that we revere the Framers/Founder as some of the greatest Americans history... Without stopping to realize most of them were first generation born in this country to ex-pats/colonists.... So it was pretty much a collection of very forward thinking, wise Brits who wrote it 🤣
By comparison, my State Constitution (Alabama) is only 117 years old, but written by crooked redneck lawyers. It's more than twice as long as any constitution in the world, over 40 times longer than the US Constitution, and has nine hundred and twenty fucking eight Amendment. 
And back on topic, amendment or not, I can't see any reason for a 21 year old to be able to buy an AK-47 or handgun with a 30 round clip

My neighbor who I hang out with all the time is from Detroit (as is his wife). He still proudly wears his T-Shirt from the perfect 0-16 season "Lions 2008 Preseason Champs 4-0" Reminds me, after I go check the ffl, it's probably time to start a football ('Merican) thread

To Sparty's point, the framers of the US Constitution were a bit paranoid about the central governments powers. A significant portion of the Constitution is restrictions on the power of the central government with various checks and balances, putting the military under elected civilian authority and the rights of states. Whatever was not specifically granted, or prohibited within the Constitution fell to the states. 
Generally speaking you had a mixture of lay people and thinkers of the day that had the opportunity to create what they considered an ideal country or an ideal system of government. The intent was for people to be governed by the laws of the state they chose to live in, and for the states to send their own elected representatives to the two legislative bodies  for a few days, hash out laws that affected the Union, and then go back home to their jobs and let the states take care of the rest. 
For 13 States and 2-3 million people it worked. Almost 250 years later, it's 50 states, 300+ million people and the document still works with little changes. There have only been 27 amendments in all that time, and 10 of those (Bill of Rights) included in the original Constitution so I don't really know why they count as amendments. And the first 10 were largely restricting the power of the federal government, and granting citizens protection from prosecution. I guess it will be fair to say the second amendment falls under both of those categories.
Regardless there have only been 17 actual changes since the Constitution was adopted, and several of those apply procedures for Congress. one said liquors illegal, and another one said nevermind no it's not.
There are probably maybe 10 "big" amendments, that range from the abolition of slavery, the rights of women to vote, voting age etc. It's not perfect and there have been some changes and interpretations and powers, but the framers did a pretty damn good job I'm creating something out of thin air that has had that few substantial changes over time.
And For better or worse, Americans tend to get a bit skeptical when you seriously talk about changes to the Constitution. It has worked stunningly well over the test of time, and there is a fear of making a substantial change within it that upsets any of the balances/checks of power or limits the rights of individuals or states that are expressly provided.
I do find it a little humorous or ironic that we revere the Framers/Founder as some of the greatest Americans history... Without stopping to realize most of them were first generation born in this country to ex-pats/colonists.... So it was pretty much a collection of very forward thinking, wise Brits who wrote it 🤣
By comparison, my State Constitution (Alabama) is only 117 years old, but written by crooked redneck lawyers. It's more than twice as long as any constitution in the world, over 40 times longer than the US Constitution, and has nine hundred and twenty fucking eight Amendment. 
And back on topic, amendment or not, I can't see any reason for a 21 year old to be able to buy an AK-47 or handgun with a 30 round clip

Legitimately laughed out loud.
Also, Zouma.

No I'm not Mike. I went over to the fourm with the intent of looking into it sometime yesterday but I saw a squirrel and never got back to it

I've got my fantasy draft tonight, I guess I could go ahead and pick him, he should start for SOMEBODY next weekend

I see him more as a hard-luck/sympathetic figure than a villian. His career has been shit since Martinez got sacked. New manger in RK to impress, some untimely hamstring issues, and he got and followed some really poor advise from that dipshit ROI manager - O'Neal? - that eventually cost him almost the entire second half of the season, and certainly didn't endear him to the club or RK. Seems like his fitness was still an issue starting the following season and ROI duty further (rightly) infuriated RK. Then when he was finally fit he suffers a freak play where Rondon unleashed a shot that caught his leg before the ball snapping his tib-fib. 
He was a 23 year old rising EPL star under Martinez, now he is a 29 year old lost in the shuffle of multiple injuries, 4 different managerial styles and a squad that only has 2-3 of the teammates he started with. I honestly think more than anything he has tried to fight for his place on the pitch. Some rotten injury luck, a club that has turned over practically the entire squad, managers and owners over a few seasons isn't his doing. Some poor decisions when pulled between club and country are ultimately on him. 
I think he's still got the skill and grit to be an effective starter in the PL, but the relationship between him and the club appears unrecoverable, it's simply time to part for all involved. Hopefully a change in scenery and luck will allow him a few more productive years on the back half of his career. 
 

http://www.toffeetalk.com/topic/27303-toffeetalk-fantasy-footy-20192020/?do=findComment&comment=677183
 

No I'm not Mike. I went over to the fourm with the intent of looking into it sometime yesterday but I saw a squirrel and never got back to it

No I'm not Mike. I went over to the fourm with the intent of looking into it sometime yesterday but I saw a squirrel and never got back to it

I'm kind of torn on Schneiderlin. He gave us some pretty good minutes especially late in the season and what I have seen n the preseason. He looks like he can still have value to us beyond a transfer fee. I never would have said that in the January window.

I'm kind of torn on Schneiderlin. He gave us some pretty good minutes especially late in the season and what I have seen n the preseason. He looks like he can still have value to us beyond a transfer fee. I never would have said that in the January window.

I see him more as a hard-luck/sympathetic figure than a villian. His career has been shit since Martinez got sacked. New manger in RK to impress, some untimely hamstring issues, and he got and followed some really poor advise from that dipshit ROI manager - O'Neal? - that eventually cost him almost the entire second half of the season, and certainly didn't endear him to the club or RK. Seems like his fitness was still an issue starting the following season and ROI duty further (rightly) infuriated RK. Then when he was finally fit he suffers a freak play where Rondon unleashed a shot that caught his leg before the ball snapping his tib-fib. 
He was a 23 year old rising EPL star under Martinez, now he is a 29 year old lost in the shuffle of multiple injuries, 4 different managerial styles and a squad that only has 2-3 of the teammates he started with. I honestly think more than anything he has tried to fight for his place on the pitch. Some rotten injury luck, a club that has turned over practically the entire squad, managers and owners over a few seasons isn't his doing. Some poor decisions when pulled between club and country are ultimately on him. 
I think he's still got the skill and grit to be an effective starter in the PL, but the relationship between him and the club appears unrecoverable, it's simply time to part for all involved. Hopefully a change in scenery and luck will allow him a few more productive years on the back half of his career.