Palfy

tabou55 what is general feeling from Belgium fans about Martinez as your national manager, and how what he is doing is going down with the players.

Hull 1-2 Everton

 

Lukaku

Comparing Kane and Lukaku again, Ai think Kane has scored 3 pens too, not sure about Lukaku? I can't remember any.

Fwiw Lukaku has scored from outside of the area but Kane hasn't yet this year.

Both have scored 1 headed goal, Kane one extra with his wrong foot.

Bailey well done mate your last two posts have been pivotal to the argument that he is not a bad player.

We should change this thread to the Haf and Shukes show, due to them being a couple of comedians.

I cant believe that a football fan would agree that Lukaku is better than Kane with either foot.

Seriously, like him or loathe him, Kane can shoot with either foot and can hit them from 10 - 20 or 30 yards.

He looks and runs like Chris waddle but is up there with the best in the premier league as far as forwards go.

Yes he is up there with the best in the league, but not quite as far up as Lukaku.

The stats don't lie, and it's also very hard to find one of your team mates when they spend the majority of the game these days deep in their own half, if you are going to hit long Ariel balls you need to get players around him to feed off any knockdowns, or it's just a waste of time.

Those stats are irrelevant. We aren't whipping crosses in to Leighton Baines or Idrissa Gueye so why compare them to a striker who is 6ft+ and built like a tank.

Haf ask TallPaul about stats he thinks they are irrelevant, ask Aidan he posted some good stats comparing with other strikers, ask tibou55 about stats that Lukaku heads.

You don't acknowledge them because they blow a big hole in your pathetic argument that he's shit.

Ffs go back in the thread and have a fuckin read. Stat based not opinion based.

And what's all this majority on TT bullshit? Typical school yard bollocks

Again in your opinion.

Hi!

 

I'm Nicolas H. from Belgium and a "big" Everton fan (no offense for the real long-term fan) since Lukaku is there.

I enjoyed your lukaku's thread. So much passion, debates and misunderstanding. I love it! ^^

 

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Hi Nicolas welcome to TT, what camp are you in when it comes to Lukaku, the he's a shit player headed by Haf or the he's a good striker doing a great job in a poor team.

Start posting friend and get involved the more the merrier.

I've already gone through the kane lukaku bit and kane comes out on top.

Chance conversion etc etc.

In Your opinion not the majority of people on TT.

I don't consider pass completions more important than goals scored - where have I said that?

Pass completion is a big factor when you are a forward - especially playing the target man role.

When gana gets the ball deep in his half from jags for example- he can't lose it to an AM. He will go wide to a full back, maybe find barkley or Barry. The defence will stay...

When the ball reaches lukaku midway in the opponents half or even closer to the box it's an opportunity for players getting there to support him.... full backs advance and the midfield pushes on. All he needs to do is control it, hold it for 3 seconds and lay it off.

He fails to do this time after time... the advancing midfielders and full backs get caught - they need to chase back to block the counter attack.

That's why it's a problem.

You talk as if he is constantly given good service from the midfield and he keeps fucking it up, he gets very little opportunities and hardly any good service from the team.

The goal against Leicester is a prime example of what he has to work with, a 70 yard goal mouth clearance that he gets on the end of, again on his own no one within 50-60 yards of him, CONTROLS it is strong runs toward their goal does there main CB leaves him sat on his arse, then rounds another defender and slots it home, not many in this league who could have done that not your main man Deeney.

Now in your eyes that not what a ( so called good player should do ) he should have held it up waited for his nearest player who was nearly the full length of the pitch away to join him so he could pass, fuck off your hatred of him is so great that it is really clouding your judgment and making you look a fool, the better he plays the more you hate it.UN-FUCKING BELIEVABLE.

No he doesn't, especially on long balls. He does alright from crosses but not when we go back to front. It's like he doesn't read the flight properly, probably in part because of what StevO said.

He's playing as a lone striker what's the point in useing the punt up field to someone to win in the air when there's no one near him to benefit from the knockdown.

He's a striker not a midfielder why do you consider pass completions more important for a striker than goals scored, when he receives the ball in the majority of positions he receives it, his first thought isn't who he can pass it to, it's how can I score from here.

Haf: I promise to never say anything negative about Lukaku again.

That's crazy, has he even been in charge for 10 games?

Terrible manager though, and probably best to get a new man in before the window opens rather than after it has shut.

We've heard that a lot closer to home, but it hasn't happened, wish our board had some bollocks about them.

Nope, I'm not getting confused, we play with 5 at the back all you have to do to see that is to watch the last game.

 

Our fullbacks seem to do the same job in a 5 as they do in a 4, it's evident isn't it?!

 

If that's lack of experience in playing as part of that set up then it's pretty poor.

 

We aren't very good at all with 5 at the back.

 

Not much better with 4 though, either!

 

Your right, I think Coleman could make the transition from a full back to a wing back, he has a good engine on him which you need, takes people on has a bit of pace and gets in box, Baines would struggle to get up and down the line, and would compromise the system, Oviedo would be a better choice he's more direct going forward and takes people on.

You nearly look set up as a 3 5 2 with two holding midfielders, that way you could have 7 defending when needed, and 5 attacking when we have possession of the ball.

If he's such a bad player why does he get picked if available for every game, when there are other options that could be tried.

Could it be because he is good at what he does.

You could go through the whole team and find fault in all of them.

If shit defenders weren't conceding goals they wouldn't come in for criticism, even as individuals they are poor, so I struggle to understand how Lukaku comes in for so much criticism when he's doing what he was put out there to do score goals.

Well done boy's looked shit but great result, I think we may have seen Barry's last appearance, been a great servant for the club unfortunately time has eventually caught up with him.

There gonna get one soon law of averages

Take that

Been streaming this, you know what wouldn't bother me if the if my internet went down, it would be less painful.

He needs to get the fuck out of there. Instead of attacking the player with the ball, he's also backing into defense. Does he know he isn't playing CB today?

That's exactly what he did come on last week Koeman is making the same poor decisions week in week out, and unbelievably there were people defending him for bringing Barry on last week.

I would like to see Deulefeu starting in at least 5 matches in a row -

He needs match practice/fitness - to show his true ability -

I still believe he has the potential to be a much better player than he is at the moment -

Same but to a lesser extent applies for Mirallas

But when you think about why you said that is it because you have witnessed them playing a lot better than they have been of late, so you know they can do a job, that's how I feel and I include Barkley in that as well.

Now are we all to believe that in six months they have all become shit at the same time due to there own deficiencies, or could it be the fault of clueless management.

I blame it on the boogie might as well everything else has been blamed.

Merry Christmas to you all and your families.

Even you MikeO and don't upset the grandchildren Father Christmas is real.