Palfy

21 minutes ago, Matt said:

Think the mark of a good season is defined by the expectations and previous seasons. We should be comfortably mid table and potentially should've been chasing Europe if not for the points. Massively improved defensive, increased in shots and shots on target, nearly 1 in 3 clean sheets with 0 budget, a ragtag threadbare squad of aging or green players...

Form this year:

https://www.soccerstats.com/team.asp?league=england&stats=9-everton

Fun fact, we've won 50% more games than last season.

The previous season and others are available in the link. I've shared this one because it's colour coded and it highlights the substantial turnaround in results.

I'd say it's a pretty damn good season. If the style next year continues to be more direct than a balance, then I'll get a bit critical. But all things considered, especially if you compare to 2 years ago, we've made massive progress. 

 

 

But has it been a successful season for me it hasn’t it’s been barely bearable, for me a successful season will be when we are pushing for a top 6 position, with a club that is being run on solid foundations, this may happen next season or the season after and so forth until we get a buyer that knows how to run a club, but fighting to stay in the league for 3 seasons for what ever reason doesn’t constitute a success for me, showing signs of improvement isn’t a reason to call a season successful. 
Strangely I don’t think I said there hadn’t been any improvement I said it wasn’t a successful season which it hasn’t unless of course we view staying up as successful, then dunlopp chimes in with it has been a successful season, I would go as far as to say that if the manager and players were asked whether they thought this was a successful season to a man they would so no, if you asked them if this was a fraught and hard season and they had conquered some big hurdles they would say yes. 

4 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said:

There's no point in going back and forth on this, with both you and Haf. You two have your opinions, 95% of everyone else on here has ours

I'm a realist, and that's why I view this season as a success. My sights weren't set higher because of what this club has been through the last few years and will continue to go through. With the absolute dumpster-fire that this club has been, I think I quite rightly am allowed to have a pretty low bar for what a "successful" season is

So why question mine aren’t I allowed to have a higher standard, I’ve supported this club through highs and lows for 57 years one of the biggest clubs in English football with a history of success, once you start accepting mediocre you inevitable get mediocre. 
Someone has to say it’s not good enough and demand better and that someone always falls at the feet of the supporters and if 95% of people in your estimation believe this was a successful season then I’m honestly surprised and disappointed. But as you say not worth discussing it you keep your bar low and I’ll keep mine high and you’ll get to enjoy every season and I’ll end up being disappointed. 
But let’s get one thing clear when you challenge my opinion and then ask me to challenge your opinion you are going to get a response even if you are in the gang of 95%. 

1 hour ago, dunlopp9987 said:

I guess this is the part that baffles me about this point of view.

We get hit with the largest points deduction in EPL history, and yet we still secure safety with 3 games to spare and will likely finish higher than we did the previous 2 seasons.

How is that not a success?

If you are prepared to accept the longest run in our history without a win, and if you are prepared to accept some of the worst football played by an Everton team in my lifetime that’s for sure, and if you are prepared to accept some of the poorest managerial decisions especially in game time, then yes you have your successful season, but if you aren’t prepared to accept those qualities as I don’t then imo it’s been far from a success. 
And all that you have said about points deductions, and our position in the league from last season, doesn’t make it a successful season it barely makes it bearable and just adds to how unsuccessful the seasons have been for many years now, from the running of the club and the football we have witnessed. 
And if it still baffles you try setting your sights a little higher and you may then experience the disappointment that I and many others like me feel about how successful we’ve been. 

I’ve always maintained that we wouldn’t go down and have always said the 3 to go down would be Sheffield, Burnley, and Luton, and the 3 that come up next season will be the same 3 that go down. But that doesn’t in any way make me feel any better we have been absolutely terrible this season, and if people believe that the mark of a good season is too avoid relegation then crack on, but for me I’ve been embarrassed at some of the football we’ve played and won’t be looking at this season or last as a success. 

3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

Even if the Premier League had taken the 17 points from us that they wanted to we still wouldn't be in the relegation zone today.

Just think about that.

We are fighters mate, we are like the SAS of the PL no matter what they throw at us we will succeed

2 hours ago, Matt said:

 

 

Cheers Matt

On 26/04/2024 at 13:42, Shukes said:

One of my favourite players of the last decade for Everton. So underrated.

I’ve always said he will be one of those players we miss when he is gone or not playing. This season has been a prime example.

One of our calmest players.
One of our best passers of the ball.  
Our best tackler. 
Best interceptor. 
Best shot…… one sec…. Delete, delete!

And as I see it… if Palfy endorses a player, he must be good.

Cheers mate 

7 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said:

Klipp Klapp and Salah having words as Salah came on today.

A sinking ship

A big rebuild job needed there when the next manager comes in, I can see another Man Utd in the making

Best trip I’ve been on we’ve won 2 in a row trying to convince the missus to let me stay out here till the end of the season

31 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Forgot 

Been there mate twice this season mate

Everton 2-0 Brentford 

DCL

3 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

Dunno you know, looks very strong. 

In the same way as DCL and Beto or in a different way. 

2 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

I like the look of chermiti. Be interesting to see what he offers in a derby.  He does like a booking 

What would be interesting if he started it might force us to find a different way to play, there’s been talk of looking for changes even if it involves Dyche’s clothes , with Chermitti playing it should make us play into feet and get more men around him, giving him long balls to fight for isn’t going to work for him. 

1 minute ago, RuffRob said:

I miss the bit where you said it was 'pure fantasy' . So we are pretty much in agreement - that nobody is waiting in the wings as 777 alternative. Apologies for the misunderstanding. 

I’m more pleased we are on the same page, I’ve always said that I couldn’t believe others were waiting in the wings for 777 to fall flat on their faces and then step in. 
To be honest at this moment in time I don’t care where the buyers come from should others come into replace 777, I just want someone to come in and stabilise us financially and if they want to sell us 2 years down the line for a quick profit too the right people I’m happy with that. 

3 hours ago, RuffRob said:

But doesn't the 'story' say there isn't any particualr interest for Qatar for Everton FC? Story more saying that Deloitti have been asked to go out and see if they can drum up some interest for potential alternative buyer. I would say kind of proves that there is nobody currently waiting in the winds if Deloitti are have been charged with looking for alternative buyers.

There will always be buyers at the right price - but guess that's the sticking point. Nobody is going to be paying what Moshiri wants unless Premeriship saftey is assured this season. At least the worst of PSR should be behind us. 

 

 

My point was nothing to do with a Qatar buyer or any other buyer, my point was all these people who believed that there were others waiting in the wings who had made themselves known to club, just proves what bollocks that was if this story is to be believed that we are having to scout for another buyer because the 777 deal looks dead in the water, due to the simple fact they can’t raise the money. So I can’t see how you’ve come up with your argument to my original post? Unless of course you are responding to someone else’s post

Everton 1-1 Liverpool 

Branthwaite

Well if this story has any resemblance of truth it proves that other buyers waiting in the wings if the 777 deal collapsed was pure fantasy. We are going to struggle to find a buyer unless Moshiri is prepared to put aside the money he has paid and invested into the club to one side, and make us more financially attractive to a buyer.  

I’m going to miss this one I’ll be sat on a plane heading to Malaga with 6 Arsenal fans and 1 Chelsea fan for a weeks golf ️ in Marbella.

Of all the games to have to miss gutted but I’m sure I’ll get over it by Thursday morning when I’m teeing off at The Marbella Club at 8:30am.

He was most definitely on it today a huge game from him and Gomes in midfield, we even managed to play possession football because of their control and passing. 

36 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

You’ve lost me.  

I wish I had mate. 

17 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

I’m so glad you were very wrong. I’m sure you are, too. 

No Steve I’m sure he’s really gutted that we won, truly wtf is that post about?

14 minutes ago, Shukes said:

The right thing to do would be to asses him ore season and offer him what he is worth.

We won’t be able to afford a player of his ability for anywhere near that price.

We can’t punish the player for having an injury either. That would put us on a par with Spurs as far as morals go. 
Asses him and decide what his form and ability level is, and offer him his worth.

How can we assess him he’s injured and his contract is over in 4 weeks, so if we keep him we have to make a gamble and pay him what he wants before seeing what we are going to be getting. 

11 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said:

I'd turned it off at the half, unbelievable this. Great to see 

Your mate scored and got an assist, you know! the one who can only score in the championship because it’s so easy

Looking back at the game I think that was the most controlled game I’ve seen for a long time, we never dominated and bar the first 10 minutes of the first half and the first 15 minutes of the second half we looked pretty much in control. 
It was a pleasure to see the ball being played on the floor, I’ve always said we have the players and ability to play a bit of football, in fact the hoofing up the the field from Pickford in the first 10 minutes of the first half was our worst spell in the game, hopefully Dyche has seen this and has more faith in allowing the players to keep possession with controlled passing and movement. Well I can hope can’t I?