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Gana's form had dipped and he wasn't dropped. If Koeman had brought Davies in earlier I'd be made up, but he never ACON forced his hand. Likewise with injuries to Jags and Stekelenberg.

Spot on.

It's not stupidity, maybe it has had some affect but I fully expect Gana to come back and improve us further in February- after all he's been our stand out player up to now.

Unfortunately, it seems you can't see past your dislike for Koeman and see this as the only answer when many have pointed out a number of other factors which have clearly contributed. Get over it and enjoy your last few months on the forum as Koeman is beginning shape this team and we're clearly moving in the right direction on and off the pitch.

Thing with Gana he looked the man in a team that was playing badly, but he was bordering on terrible the last 2 games before ACON when others were showing massive improvement, so if you think he should walk straight back into a winning team who you going to drop Davies or Barry, and then you've got Schneiderlin knocking on the door.

If there playing well and the teams winning leave it till it breaks, Gana has know right to walk straight back into the team.

He didnt write that. And injuries/ACON have certainly shaped the team that are winning right now.

 

And its basically the team that was always here, no Stekkers, Bolasie, Gana or Valencia.

Robles has proved himself along with Mori, Davies and Holgate, will he change them to fit in his own signings of Gana and Schneiderlin, interesting times a head in the next couple of weeks.

I read some absolute garbage on here. And elsewhere too. Some real shambolic shit.

I hope those who kept the faith are enjoying this, because I can guarantee there are a bunch of people who are squirming at the moment.

That's bollocks mate I criticised koeman for his tactics and team selections and what's happening now makes me feel justified in what I've said, which was he inherited players much better than how they were playing under him, I was slated with the usual what do you expect with the shit Martinez left him there to old he brought all shit players, as the excuse for how bad we were playing.

The fact is that the last 2 games we have only started with one of his six signings in Williams, for me he's starting to get the system right and he's not swapping and changing as much.

So for all those who Newty feels contempt for isn't nice to know that when we said the players were better than we were playing we was right, now Koeman is seeing that as well and reaping the benefits by sorting the defence out the one thing Martinez was incapable of doing.

If Rom had touched the ball, would it be seen as bad as Mirallas taking penalty off Baines

I'd like to think that not many would criticise him if he had touched it, all strikers worth having would I hope do the same and try and score at every opportunity presented to them.

2-3 years ago but not now at 33 there's know long or mid term gain.

If we were looking like relegation prospects or pushing for a top 4 spot then fair enough get him in for the short term benefit he may offer, but it looks like we're finish mid table and he wouldn't improve on that if he came in.

We do need another experienced CB but someone around 28-29 to take over the mantle from Williams and Jags when they are finished in the next year or two.

Hope he doesn't change the set up we should be going to Palace saying this is how we're set you try and stop us if you can, we don't fear you so we won't change to suit you.

McCarthy for Barry Schneiderlin looked like he needs a bit more match fitness, so wouldn't start with him but you could see when gets his game back together he's gonna be awesome.

He took control of his area and was decisive when shutting there chances down, if you're a defender that's the sort of display you want from your keeper makes your job easier.

Hope he keeps the No1 slot.

I hold no animosity towards him he always gave his all and has never criticised the club or time he spent here, the booing is just part of the game and to be expected on his first return back, and if it made him uneasy then the supporters have achieved there role as 12th man and helped the team to victory.

I wouldn't expect it to but Koeman hit the nail on the head in his interview when he said we had a good choice of substitues to choose from. That's the big factor, when you have Kone, Cleverley, Lennon and the likes on your bench you don't have much scope to work with.

He may not be the one to move us forward but he as to be given time and the things he's saying, the way he is mercilessly lashing all the shite that's stealing a living on massive wages and the players he is bringing in are enough for me to be happy he's here.

Your right, and putting the two new signings on the bench probably gave the rest of the lads the kick up the arse some of them have needed, and you could see the work rate massively improve, still need a couple more to make more fight for their positions and we could be on the move.

You could pick anyone of five or six they were that good

In the end I went for Mirallas in my eyes he was brilliant worked hard to win the ball back when we lost it, when he had the ball took people on and got there defence running back to their own goal they couldn't handle him, and scored a cracking goal, when he was subbed it didn't matter he had already caused them massive damage and set the game up for us.

The best performance as a whole team performance I've seen for along time from Robles to Rom, still can't take it all in, the way everyone worked for each other was fantastic.

When Davies scored it brought a tear to my eyes the emotion of seeing one of us score a goal of that quality got to me, and with the relief of the last few months washing away I had a bit of a moment.

Fucking love this club

I think if anything the vote has confused people even more. It has been very difficult to work out what is true and what is a half truth and what is complete bollocks. Sometimes I'm not sure the politicians are even sure.

Remain has certainly gone ahead but it was in the polls beforehand as well. Like you say polls don't mean as much as they used to. The "silent majority" that never gets sampled are the ones that seem to have the final say. Has anyone on here changed their opinion (either way)?

Tories (and Labour) are certainly losing power locally but I also think UKIP have seen an increase as well as the Lib Dems. I expect that will reverse when the bigger elections start rolling around again in a year or two.

No I haven't changed my opinion I voted remain and would again given the opportunity, but I know that won't happen.

What I want now is to get behind the best exit deal/plan that offers my children and grandchildren a stable and prosperous future, but what really concerns me is that the government responsible for taking us out aren't capable of getting the negotiations right, and are still scaremongering by there comments of its going to be financially tuff, but we haven't really been told anything has to on what deals they are proposing.

I think before we start article 50 we should have a general election so that we can have a say on which party has the best exit strategy and plans for the future.

Fucking hell lads, Martinez is done now let's move on.

Exactly someone tell bull shit talk he can't leave the past behind.

Scare tactics + outright lies v outright lies.

As I said, both side were economical with the truth.

John if the over 65s hadn't been allowed to vote the remain would have won, I can't help feeling that people who it has least effect on have possibly effected the future of those who are still setting out in life for a Britain they remember with nostalgia.

I go to the Ryder cups the Americans only have one chant USA USA from now on I expect to hear USR USR.

Where is the doom and gloom crew now?

Still here Jazzy just got out the shower.

I think I speak for all of us when I say:

YEE FUCKING HAW

I think you do

The problem is when your dealing with Mourinho if he's got a figure in his head that he wants for a player he won't budge, he's been like that everywhere he's been and doesn't back down he'd rather let someone play in reserves than lose on a deal.

There not desperate to sell so you've got a choice meet their value or look elsewhere

I can't believe that the people who have been defending Koeman with post of the age of defence and DCM, have said they would be happy to take another 33 year old, if Koeman attempts to buy him and the board allow it then our future looks very bleak

No, he buggered my club and got paid off for the crime of it. Besides the slow healing process it would help a lot if some of the support that backed him during his nefarious deed could hold their hands up, admit they got it very wrong and pledge never to let such a tenth rate conman diddle them again.

Looks like history repeating itself at the moment.

I can't help thinking it would have been interesting to have given him one more opportunity, to see if the form he had hit in the U23s could have been replicated in the first team, it would have cured my curiosity.

Good luck to him in a lot of ways he's been a model pro took it on the chin that he didn't fit in Koeman's plans and worked hard to earn himself a move to fight another day.

Also this "he is operating under different financial constaints nonesense. We had practically zero net spend after the Stones sale, Martinez was backed heavily by the board and was never forced to sell his best players. Yet he brough shitehawk after shitehawk through the doors chatting wham like Mcgeady one of the beat footballers he's ever seen and giving contracts to the likes of Hibbert who never kicked a ball for his last 3 years as an Everton player.

I didn't know Koeman was forced to sell Stones before he could buy Bolasi, Stekkers and Gana, there's me thinking that Moshiri said he could go because he had been promised he could go at the end of the season, and that they had money to spend.

The way the table is looking at this moment in time, we could finish on less points this season but still be in a higher position in the league, if that was to happen to me that would be failure not improvement.