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Actually, Walker was never going to win the ball, and DCL would've been away

Probably a bit soft but Walker has no business throwing his shoulder like that on a yellow and 40 yards from goal. Made the referee make a decision and sometimes they are going to make the wrong one.

 

Second half ..replace Morgan Schneiderlin with Davy Klaassen ......MS and davis is already on a yellow and both the players do not dare put one wrong foot for obvious reasons..

I'd rather replace Davies with GS. Schneiderlein is a more important player for us, particularly with the lead and I'd trust Gylfi's experience and workrate over Klassen in his second PL game in a high pressure spot.

pickford

 

Holgate. Keane Williams Baines

 

Morgan Gueye

 

Lookman. Davies. Mirallas

 

Rooney

Lookman and Davies together would worry me as they are both still pretty mistake prone. Also, that formation would make it harder for Rooney to drop back and become a distributor at times.We'll see though, there's a lot of things RK can do to mix it up if it's not going well. COYB

So disappointed with that line up.

 

Park the bus then get them on the counter??? You need pace to play those tactics.

 

We are going to struggle.

What would your alternative lineup be?

Love that corner routine but by the look of the ref's reaction the scorer was offside so it didn't count. Sadly the opposition defence didn't have players on the posts; brilliant idea though, never seen one like that before.

Perhaps I'm missing something obvious but how can he be offsides on a corner....unless he's standing inside the goal he'll be behind the ball when it's played

 

Watching it back again, I misunderstood how the play developed. I issue a full and heartfelt retraction

Even if they get a stadium ban I bet you they'll have fans in there.

Likely so but it would still be a much calmer away atmosphere and we wouldn't have to worry as much about large scale incidents distracting from the game. Reading a little bit more it seems they've been fined etc..many times over the last decade. At what point do you get suspended from European competitions. UEFA needs to incentive clubs to crack down themselves and the best way to do that is by costing them real money for not policing this sort of behavior.

 

fair enough i didn't know they've been charged already this season. makes you wonder why UEFA continually lets them in the competition. ban them .

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11959/10956290/hajduk-split-fined-nearly-50000-over-trouble-and-racist-chants-at-europa-league-game

 

I'm not sure how UEFA discipline works in these matters but I would hope that they take into consideration past behavior. If so it seems likely that leg two will be played in an empty stadium which is a shame for our away fans (and their more reasonable supporters) but probably is better for us as a team.

 

someone said he's spanish. if he was croatian sure he's one of them they'd respect him. he's not. he's an outsider, he's probably as new to the behavior as we were. the announcers for the match kept commenting on how embarrassed the players were.

 

i'm not defending him, just trying to put myself in his shoes and see how he could have just been shocked at it all.

I get where you're coming from but I don't agree with him being in shock. They were fined already this season for racist chanting during a Europa fixture and their stadium is consistently a madhouse. This behavior isn't particularly abnormal for them and even if it was nothing excuses him saying that he "didn't see it". The very least he could have done is acknowledge what took place even if he chose not to condemn it.

 

Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola on Everton: "Everton are a top squad and they have bought good players.

"They are one of the best teams in the league - I am sure of that."

 

After our results against them last season I think they were always going to take this fixture very serious, regardless of who we signed.

 

i think they do that on purpose. just like how everton TV said they wouldn't show any of it. they don't want to give any airplay otherwise they'll do it more to get airplay, manager comments. etc. Just like how newspapers don't print out ransom demands anymore, they get off on it being published and it actual furthers the evil.

I get why they don't show it on TV but I think it's different with their manager. He's in a position to influence supporters and send a positive message about what sort of club they want to be. If he really was taking the position that he wasn't going to address the incident because he didn't want to give them any air time he could simply say that and be done. Claiming to not have even seen what happened is an obvious lie and combined with his comment that "It's not his job" suggests to me his hesitancy is due to a lack of courage rather than a tactical decision. Sometimes silence (or a lack of condemnation) is complicity and, to me, this is one of those times.

In regards to the crowd incident yesterday what upset me even more than the visuals were the comments by their manager. The link is elluding me at the moment but he said he " Was focused on the match" and " Didn't see what happened". He then refused to talk any more about it. What an absolute coward. I realize that these are fans he will be in front of all season and so perhaps it's understandable (if not admirable) that he's unwilling to specifically condemn them but could he not give at least a general statement about how these sorts of scenes have no place in the game? Was a moment to show his character...and he certainly did.

Looks like he's off to Milan (bid accepted by Fiorentina).

 

https://talksport.com/football/transfer-news-everton-miss-out-nikola-kalinic-ac-milan-agree-ps27m-deal-fiorentina-striker

 

Options for a centre forward are dwindling.

Shame as he looks a very solid, imposing striker and exactly the sort of player we need.

Whoever we bring in I hope their well Fetted.

Absolutely not. The type of players Koeman has brought in are all high character guys. Many of them are captains for either their clubs or their countries or both. Costa is an incredible player when his head's in it but he's one of the worst characters on a pitch in world football, we all know this. Let's not sell our souls as fans so we can have one season of this manbaby representing Everton. For every class goal there would be an incident that would make us ashamed he was wearing the shirt.

I'll probably go with Sig.

 

in my response to matt i cover that, i don't want a focal point to the attack. makes it too easy to snuff out and problematic when injuries/cold patches happen. When Pelle was out their attack was limp, if the other sides plan was to negate Pelle, they were screwed. no thanks.

Southampton didn't have the quality around Pelle to make them multi-dimensional, we do. We have (and may add) some players who can deliver good crosses into the box. Having a physical presence to convert those crosses can only help us and add another facet to our attack. Obviously whoever we bring in unlikely to be a finisher of Lukaku's ability but imagine how dangerous we would have been with him in our current team (+ Gylfi).

Certainly looks promising. I would say one of the things he does need to work on is his decision making. Couple of times where we probably would have scored if he'd had his head up and made a better decision with the ball.. Of course one could say similar about Barkley or even Lukaku at times.

The game vs Split is far far more important to what we want to accomplish this season than Man City. We should certainly be playing our strongest possible team for that one.

Agreed, understatement.

 

That said, if this article is accurate, and Swansea gives in to the 40m offer, was the ordeal worth it? We get our guy, and can use the 10m to up our offer on a striker or to continue to bolster the youth squad.

 

The thing that gets at me is the way this has been drawn out signals that we aren't ready to spend nearly as large as was previous indicated. If we were, we'd have gotten him in and training with the squad sooner rather than later.

Respectfully, I strongly disagree with your assessment. For one, we have bid 40m+ which is considerably more than Everton have ever bid for any player. This alone should prove we are willing to splash the cash. The idea that because we have significantly more money we should just pay whatever clubs want is a bit misguided in my opinion. If we get a reputation for being a club who is weak in negotiation we would regularly be taken advantage of. It can be frustrating to not get a player because of a few million but those millions we save are going to add up and help improve the club in the long run. Almost everyone agrees that Sig is being priced too high so I don't quite get the criticism when our management agrees and tries to get a better deal.

So we'd miss out on £30m for Barkley by loaning him until his contract runs out? Would be a bit silly!

Yea, that would be about the worst thing we could do. Might as well pay 60 mil for Sig rather than do that.

There are better defenders out there

I assume you mean for the price. Who do you think we could get for a similar price? Keep in mind we aren't really looking for a starter right now.

Another thing is he might be planning to give game time to a lot of players over the 2 legs, assuming things go to plan and so he's splitting the squad somewhat. Or maybe he's planning to let some of these other come on as second half subs. In any case whoever we put out there should be more than capable of doing the job against this level of competition.

His double standards piss me off.

 

All he had to say was sigurdson is a top player and a Swansea player.

There's really nothing in this if you watch the interview. Originally he declines to discuss Sig and then when a reporter mentions that Swansea have confirmed there was a bid he just kind of shrugs and says "yea, there is interest". This isn't new information to anyone and Swansea themselves are putting some of it out there so I don't see any harm in it. If it was a situation where the club we were dealing with hadn't spoken about it then it would be different.

I think his best quality is the one that won't show up as much on the stat sheet. Running all day and pressing high up the pitch will be valuable for the way Koeman wants to play. Him, Gueye, Sandro and Rooney will be a terror for defenders trying to play out from the back. His free kick ability is great but I'm not sure we really need it given that we now have Rooney and Sandro in the team. Certainly I don't think we are buying him with his dead ball skills as the main selling point.

Gylfi showed he's not that good at big club being at Tottenham already. That price is huge risk and I think Swansea is the winning party of this deal.

Just like Rom wasn't good at big club Chelsea? Or Schneiderlein at Man U? Etc..