duncanmckenzieismagic

Yet another bore draw! Its hard to see where our first win is going to come from at the moment, I really dont fancy us next week against Chelsea, but I suppose its to be expected . Think it is a bit like The Shite under Rodgers last year where they had plenty of possesion but never did anything with it. It all reminds me of the Mike Walker era at the moment where we could make 50 passes in our own half then lose the ball and concede a goal, lets hope it turns out better than that shite! Another dire performance from Kone but again I suppose its a bit early to judge him at the moment

Hard to pick anyone from that, Felli and Barkley drifted in and out of the game and Coleman had a go but dont think anyone did anything to dreserve MotM

Its going to be a long season, simply not good enough I hate the way Martinez keeps picking Moyes´s favourites!

I think he could do a job for us but I wouldn't get over excited about it, pretty much the way I feel about all our summer signings so far really, Deulofeu being the exception

Really difficult to predict this season. I think a lot will depend on what happenes in the January transfer window with Baines and Felli, assuming they are both still here by then If the Betis game is anything to go by then I will be surprised if we make the top half of the table, but Im hoping that was just a blip and I never read too much into preseason games anyway. I think a top 10 finish would have to be seen as a success for Martinez first season

I think he has a marginally better chance of finishing top scorer than Tony Hibbert has

Who were Belgium playing in midweek, the Ken Dodd Select XI ?

This , Baines is by far the best LB Ive ever seen at the club

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gerard-deulofeu-needs-time-hell-5717146

http://talksport.com/football/everton-tell-man-united-they-want-%C2%A330m-fellaini-13081355375

Great idea but I very much doubt it will happen with Haf around!

Suspended apparently

Im just glad that Fer is out because it was nailed on that he was going to pop up with a 90th minute winner!

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11671/8867642

Ive already said that the best way to bring youngsters on is to send them out on loan so that they can get regular first team football so Im not too sure where you are going with that IMO when Duffy came in he was superb in the first 3 games but he had a bit of a nightmare in his final game and so I think Moyes was right not to play him agaisnt City I suppose it all boils down to what you want from Everton, If you want them to win games then we need our strongest side on the pitch . If your not arsed about the result and would rather we produced good young players then I can see why you would want them in the team

No

Im not saying anything of the sort. Im saying that age shouldn't come into it Its a crazy idea I know but I think we should pick our best 2 CBs and if one should happen to get injured or suspended we bring in our 3rd best CB

Bollocks! I agree with this ! :shaking fist:

I think he would have gone out on loan had Jags not got injured When that happened , Hietinga came into the side and we had to keep Duffy here as backup

No Im sorry I don't get the point at all Ok so you say he should be in the side, but at whose expense? There were times last season were I would rather have had Duffy than Hietinga but that would still only get him a place on the bench Im also dead against putting out a reserve side in the Cup, I want us to win something and the best chance we have of doing that is to take the Cup competitions seriously and for me that means fielding your strongest side not pitching in your 4th best CB just because he is under the age of 21 If these lads need to develop send them out on loan, don't jeopardise what little chance we have of silverware/Europe just to give someone a game, its not Sunday league football after all I know that for some reason you love to hate Moyes and on the flip side Martinez can do no wrong so it will be interesting to see what your opinion is on this is in 6 months time if Shane Duffy is still here and still isn't in the side

What principle?? Beckham and Scholes were world class players and were more than ready to take their chance when it came. Also worth pointing out Beckham had to go out on loan before he got his chance I like Duffy and I would love him to make it at Everton but I just don't get this idea that youngsters should be in the side because they are youngsters. Duffy looked extremely shakey in his last game and I don't think it would have done him any good to have put him in against City If you think Shane is better than Jags , Distin and Hietinga then fair enough I can see why you would think he should be in the side otherwise why would you not want your best players out on the pitch?

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/420891/Everton-set-to-go-head-to-head-with-Bordeaux-for-Wigan-s-Jean-Beausejour?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-sport-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+Sport+Feed%29 Hope to God there is no truth in this

Hmmmm so are you seriously trying to compare Duffy to Scholes and Beckham??? Was it 4 games he came in for? If memory serves he did brilliantly in 3 of them but looked really dodgy in the 4th game, think it as against Villa at Goodison The point is if he is good enough he gets into the team but if he is the 4th best CB and we only play 2 at a time then its little wonder that he hasn't played a lot

Genuinely surprised at this news, mainly because I though he had retired in 2011

Because Jags, Distin and at the time Hietinga are all better than him