this forums gettin beyond a joke with the pienaar love. how can any one justify givin pienaar MOM over baines? please dont reply he was 'lively', this is not really gonna ever win u games, his movement is flawed, hence why he runs around tommy-esc so much. only thing he contributes is layin the ball on to baines, but we could even play phil neville lm and he would do this jus as effectively if not better. the rest of pienaars 'game' is wank. the sooner he fucks off the better