LexKing Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) Beer someone mentioned BEER? LOL Lager aint beer`? wtf is that then hmm i have a feeling im ripped off here today lol. Too quiet summer for Evertonians. Edited June 20, 2011 by LexKing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Mentioned in here : http://www.royalbluemersey.com/2011/7/13/2270890/everton-players-poised-for-a-breakout had hoped that by the time I got around to writing this, there would be some fresh faces to discuss, but obviously that's not going to happen. There's no need to revisit our current financial situation on this site or anywhere for that matter, so I'll just leave it at that. That being said, there is some young talent already in the ranks that I am particularly excited about, despite little experience at this level. I couldn't decide exactly how I would define "breakout," whether it was a breakout into the Everton first team, or a current first team player making his mark on the Premier League, so I went with a little bit of both. There are some exciting young players whose progression over the past few seasons has been exciting, or have just recently joined the squad, who I'm expecting to make a mark on the first team squad this coming season, and possess varying skill sets that could serve the first team well, and I'll start with them. Magaye Gueye Gueye is the young player I am most excited about. Some aspects of his game remind me of his countryman, Louis Saha, but is different in some good ways. With the injury bug in full swing last spring, he got his first taste of first team action in the Premier League, and though he wasn't perfect, he gave us a preview of the talent he possesses. I was particularly impressed by his skill and tactical versatility. He is listed as a forward on the official Everton roster, but in his first full start against Wolves, we saw him play left and right winger, as well as in the hole behind the striker, and we witnessed one of our most fluid attacking games of the year as he switched spots with Osman and Bily throughout the match. He should have finished better for his first goal when he came on as a sub the week before, but regardless, put in a good showing in that match as well. Like Saha, he is good with both feet, and has a very powerful shot, but also has an eye for that killer pass playing in midfield. I think he will be given more chances this season to show the full extent of his abilities, and with some more top flight experience under his belt, he should hone the imperfections in his game and become a more rounded player, and should be a good asset for Moyes going forward. Apostolos Vellios Another player who got a few chances to play during our spell of injuries, Vellios is a large physical specimen and though is still quite young, will get a chance next season to solidify his spot in the senior squad. A January window steal for David Moyes, he is a long term project we want to develop, but given the status of our squad and striker options, and the unlikelihood of seeing many new faces, he should be given a chance to shine. He is big and strong, uses his size well and is a good header of the ball. Though he didn't see much time on the pitch, I was impressed with his movement and hold up play. While not spectacular, he was responsible with the ball and wanted to do something effective with it, which many young players take some time to learn. Given his athletic ability and maturity, he has the keys to be an effective forward, all he needs is some more training time with the first team, and some more game experience in the Premier League to perfect his game and contribute regularly to the first team. Eric Dier Dier is an interesting centerback prospect for several reasons. He comes from a footballing family, and his family moved from England to Portugal when he was just seven. He grew up in the youth ranks at Sporting Lisbon, a program that puts a lot of emphasis on technique and skill, and despite his impressive physical size, he is very confident with the ball. He is young, but Sporting signed him onto the full squad last April, beating Arsenal and Manchester United to the punch. Though he is just on loan this season, he has expressed his desire to return to England for his football, and Moyes would be wise to try and lock him down after a full season on loan. Many have declared him the future of the English National Team, and though it is far too soon for that to be determined, the hype surrounding the young defender is surely not just a fabrication of the media. He is tall enough to deal with aerial threats, and has been heralded by coaches and scouts for his skill with the ball, as well as defensive positioning. The Portugese league is not known for it's physicality though, so training alongside Distin and Jagielka will certainly do him some good in that regard, and with his combination of strength, skill, and positioning, he should be a useful player for us. He might be young, but Moyes wouldn't bring someone in on loan to not even give them a shot to prove themselves, so we should see him get a run out on several occassions. There's also a few guys I think fall into the other category of "breakout." Some players may be household names to us Everton supporters, but maybe haven't burst onto the scene quite yet for other teams. For example, we might consider them a vital asset to the squad, but other teams aren't strategizing against us with that player in mind quite yet. Next season, for these players, I think that will change. Seamus Coleman Some might disagree with me on this one. Coleman was in the running for PFA Young Player of the Year and also was capped several times by his national team. But I personally feel like he hasn't even scratched the surface of his true potential. He burst onto the scene last season and was one of the most exciting young players to watch, but going into this season, we aren't really sure what position we will se him play. Moyes has stated his desire to make Coleman the successor to Neville at rightback, but Coleman has lit up the Premier League as a right winger on many occassions, and still needs to improve on his defensive game to be a consistent rightback at this level. My opinion is that next season, Coleman will get a run out at both positions, and will be a star in the league as a right sided player. I don't think he has reached that point yet where opposing teams highlight him as an impact player, and certainly our left side has been more consistently our channel of attack, and opponents look to defend Leighton Baines more than anyone else. Also, because of our reliance on the left side for attack, Baines is often caught upfield on the counter, and that side has consistently been our weak point on defense. With Coleman counteracting that and channeling more attacks down the right, we should be a more well rounded side on both offense and defense. Jermaine Beckford This is another one that I might get some flak for, but hear me out. There's no doubt that Beckford had a successful first Premier League season. To make the jump in leagues like he did and score 10 goals in all competitions is definitely impressive, and his stunners against Bolton and on the final day of the season against Chelsea display his obvious ability. But I think under the right circumstances, Beckford can be a force to be reckoned with. He needs to perfect certain parts of his game, like his movement, hold up play, and finishing. He missed several easy chances in big matches, and his attitude and off the field problems popped up a few times, the most notably when he fumed at being taken off and when he was late to the Reading match when he was listed as a starter. Those kinds of things cannot happen if you want to succeed in this league, and I think he knows that now. His movement in front of goal has been good and he has a goalscorer's instinct, but he needs that killer instinct that defines a quality striker. Also, he plays best in a two striker system, and all too often he was run out as a single striker last season, which isn't his style. Perhaps if he can improve his passing and hold up play, this could be possible, but I think he would play best alongside a target striker, and hopefully we won't have the injuries up front like we did last season and he won't have to play alone up top. This might be a confusing choice as a breakout player for some, but I think Beckford is poised for a breakout not for Everton, but in the eyes of the Premier League, as a quality striker that other teams fear when they go up against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAJUSTIN Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Anyone else notice that in the "1st training day" pics Magaye's training top says "1st Team" and Beckford's doesn't?? Beckford looks like beetlejuice when he turned into a snake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inertia8 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Indeed, he put's his neck to good use there's no doubt about it. No mention of Joao Silva in that young player article... I assume Silva will return to Everton this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 He's returned, but he's still considered a reserve player isn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bryant Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 He's returned, but he's still considered a reserve player isn't he? He's on the reserve squad list on the official website so I presume so.. http://www.evertonfc.com/match/everton-squad.html?team=14524 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilpyrokid951 Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 He's returned, but he's still considered a reserve player isn't he? He's gone of with the reserve team to Russia so I'd assume so. Hoping to get a glimpse of what kind of player he is this season. I can imagine the reserves will do quite well this year with Silva and Vellios leading the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) gueye got 2 tonight Everton 4 Bury 1 Edited July 15, 2011 by marcopaulo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Better than nzogbia!!! Fingers crossed eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bryant Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 (edited) Better than nzogbia!! IMO from watching him in the pre season games and the few games he finally mustard up last season he does have a lot of promise. I really hope Moyes puts some trust in him next season and gives him a few games to see what he's worth, especially if we don't make any signings this summer. So with a bit of experience behind him in the forthcoming season he might just well turn out to be!! From what I've heard him and Vellios were starting to tear it up in the reserves at the end of last season, so why not give them a go? The worst that can happen is they turn out to be a flop and we go back to the old guard. Edited July 16, 2011 by Johnny Bryant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inertia8 Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 As far as I'm concerned I'd rather Moyes try's to unearth a few more unknowns for a pittance than stretching the clubs finances... the prices clubs are getting for slightly above average players is remarkable.. mind you it's mostly Liverpool doing the buying of said players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Im sure DM said this lad wouldv played more if he hadn't got a knock last season, im sure he'l give him a go he looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Regulator Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 hes got promise at the moment thats all....he would find it hard to do it week in week out. I guess that's the point, Moyes would like to use these players when we're already cruising 2-0 and don't want to throw it away, or in cup competitions so he doesn't have to risk players. He's not supposed to be N'Zogbia, its why Charles costs £10m and Gueye cost £1m, there's the potential for him to become a ten mil player. However with our injury record it would be nice if Gueye turns out to be one of the shrewdest signings in recent times. Guess we'll have to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 hes got promise at the moment thats all....he would find it hard to do it week in week out. And he'll never be able to do it week in, week out if he's not given a chance to fullfil that promise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 (edited) And he'll never be able to do it week in, week out if he's not given a chance to fullfil that promise. Im sure he will play this season altho it will be intresting to see if hes played as a winger or a forward,im pretty sure he can do either. Edited July 17, 2011 by smeghead1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Arteta sets Gueye Challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Arteta sets Gueye Challenge He should maybe think about challenging himself before he starts talking about anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 He should maybe think about challenging himself before he starts talking about anyone else. I can only assume arteta has bossed all pre season training sessions and proved himself once more as top dog. Otherwise, yep, sort your own game out mikky £70k a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) He should maybe think about challenging himself before he starts talking about anyone else. Couldn't agree more Mark (Edit) and Haf Edited July 20, 2011 by tenaciousj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 he looked good against bury(arteta) but pre-season is a different ball game to the prem..needs to kick himself up the arse this year we really need him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcirony Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) Does anyone know what has happened to Gueye?! It looks like him in the Francisco Junior hospital photo but I haven't seen him anywhere near a team sheet in yonks. Is he injured?! Edited April 26, 2013 by MoyesForPM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Does anyone know what has happened to Gueye?! It looks like him in the Francisco Junior hospital photo but I haven't seen him anywhere near a team sheet in yonks. Is he injured?! He's back in France out on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcirony Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Cheers, anyone know how he's doing over there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 He's been doing okay and has attracted attention from Ligue 1 clubs, I suspect that he'll be sold in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Lets hope. He is the french Ian Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 I've heard literally nothing on Gueye ever since we loaned him out. Is he still our property? Are we going to sell him? Keep him? Loan him out again? How did he even do during the loan spell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Isnt his contract up for renewal after the loan? Most seem to think that he will be a free agent after the loan period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Isnt his contract up for renewal after the loan? Most seem to think that he will be a free agent after the loan period. He's contracted until 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 He's contracted until 2015 Has the loan period ended? Is he back now? I hope the french club gives us 1.5 mil for him. Seems fair. No future here as I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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