FanchesterCity Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Erm, erm... When the Sky was done, Everton were one of the 'Elite teams' wanting to do a deal with ITV that favoured the elite. I don't think there's a club in the land that is particularly noble. It's a myth. Of course, sometimes you'll get a totally outrageous chairman and board, or a reasonable one, but much of that is pot luck, but when push comes to shove, and money is wafted under the noses of any club, there's no room for nobility. Totally agree on the 'the fire needs putting out'. But the Premier League teams have sat in the warmth for a while now, now it's getting too hot they don't like it. They've brought this on themselves really. They've hyped up the PL and CL to the point where it's an advertising monster it's outgrown 'football'. It's now a business platform for sponsors to use, and the sponsors are calling the shots - dictating fixtures, kick-off times, who does interviews and who doesn't, and when they have to happen etc etc. I'd love it to stop, but I'm not show HOW it can be, half the clubs would literally collapse if the sponsors pulled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Sometimes I miss the days when good teams were just good teams, none of these foreign investment types sticking their bugle in, just good players getting on with it, home grown and all, now there's like oil barons and shieks and god knows what else doing this and that, I miss the old days, just everyone on an equal footing, and none of the damn advertising or commercials everywhere, sponsor this and that and something else, maybe we took the pre premier league days for granted before it all got out of hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanchesterCity Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I agree. But, it was the PL that brought all this to a head.... Before the PL, the elite teams at the time (including Everton) were threatening a breakaway and wanting to grab the ITV money for right to their games, and screw the rest (more or less). Clubs were (and still are) shockingly run, and the lure of money had them all salivating. They took the money, and there's no denying, aspects of the game have improved as a result - better grounds / facilities, safer stadiums, better players and football.... BUT, it's come at a price. The gulf between the 'haves' and 'have nots' is wider than ever, and the feeling of affinity between club and fan is virtually lost, esp with the influx of footballers who are by their very nature, highly paid commodities (mercenaries in some eyes). There's a lot of fans who will point to Chelsea and City and say "bunch of mercenaries" - which I agree with, but the implication is that their own players on a mere 50K a week are somehow emotionally attached to the club and paragons of moral virtue. There might be a handful of such players around, but they are few and far between. We've created a monster I'm afraid, and now we don't like how it's behaving... I long for the days when United might have a good team for a couple of years, then City, or Arsenal, or Everton etc... much more of a mix. But 20 year dominance? Liverpool had a good decade, and United best part of 20 years.... that can't be right, surely. Even with a great manager and club, SURELY the law of averages says another decent team will better them regularly. Sadly, those days are gone. It's crap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 pay attention louis http://www.toffeetalk.com/index.php?/topic/23724-pre-match-questions-for-kenwright-today/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Sorry MarcoPaulo, won't happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 best not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble Savage Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Love the mask even if it is starting to get old. The spelling , not so much. Edit. Would Goering be better than dear Adolf? Edited January 8, 2012 by Noble Savage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Love the mask even if it is starting to get old. The spelling , not so much. The spelling is deliberate so as to make them look a bit thick, doh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble Savage Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 The spelling is deliberate so as to make them look a bit thick, doh. Oh you did the V mask? Good work . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble Savage Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 I really thought the only edit was the nazi . Soz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Oh you did the V mask? Good work . Not the v mask, no. That was on the original pic. I thought it was genuine lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 I really thought the only edit was the nazi . Soz. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble Savage Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Trouble is my phone has dire resolution and doesn't show all the picture. Didn't spotr Peggs co star either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Don't really know what to write about this....are the BU responsible for it? It was on the KEIOC site. Comparing themselves to Gandhi ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I think it's the quote moreso.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I think they would have been better with, Our life is a long and arduous quest after Truth or, more pertinently, An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I think it's the quote moreso.. Doubtless....but even using that is pretty crass imo. Can we expect, "We shall fight them on the beaches..." or "I have a dream...." next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 How about "Say what again, mother fucker!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Apparently there is now a fb page called ' Evertonians Against The Blue Union' BU also had another meeting last night, not sure what happened though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 BU also had another meeting last night, not sure what happened though http://www.liverpool...00252-30202153/ "He then challenged Kenwright to prove allegations that members of the Blue Union had secretly taped a meeting at his London offices last year..." Why can't they just let this go? It's plain to anyone with half a brain cell that it was recorded....just making themselves look daft keeping banging on about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) I love this picture, pretty much sums something up for me... -------------------------------------------------------^^------------^^---- Hooded, balaklava'd louts!! Edited January 26, 2012 by tenaciousj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Apparently there is now a fb page called ' Evertonians Against The Blue Union' http://www.facebook.com/EfcABU http://www.dailymoti...nion-eabu_sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Joined. I hate the Blue Union. I think it would be in the club's interest that Bill Kenwright left and we had a new chairman but I am 100% against the way that Kenwright has been treated. A man that has put his own money in his pocket for our club (albeit a small amount) does not deseve the abuse that he gets, the Blue Union are making the vasy majority of our supporters look like idiots and scumballs when in actual fact that Blue Union is a small minority of our fan-base. I remember a wonder post from Romey 1878 a while back who hit the nail on the head by basically saying - Bill Kenwright and the Blue Union bicker like children whilst the club we love goes under. The Blue Union does more harm than it does good and the sooner it is closed the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) Joined. I hate the Blue Union. I think it would be in the club's interest that Bill Kenwright left and we had a new chairman but I am 100% against the way that Kenwright has been treated. A man that has put his own money in his pocket for our club (albeit a small amount) does not deseve the abuse that he gets, the Blue Union are making the vasy majority of our supporters look like idiots and scumballs when in actual fact that Blue Union is a small minority of our fan-base. I remember a wonder post from Romey 1878 a while back who hit the nail on the head by basically saying - Bill Kenwright and the Blue Union bicker like children whilst the club we love goes under. The Blue Union does more harm than it does good and the sooner it is closed the better. Looks for giant boom..... Bloody hell Zoo....you got a 'KA-BOOM'...only select few get KA's....and they ain't just for girls Edited January 26, 2012 by tenaciousj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwelterTheChef Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 http://www.liverpool...00252-30202153/ "He then challenged Kenwright to prove allegations that members of the Blue Union had secretly taped a meeting at his London offices last year..." Why can't they just let this go? It's plain to anyone with half a brain cell that it was recorded....just making themselves look daft keeping banging on about it. Thing is, he didn't challenge Kenwright to prove BU taped the meeting, he challenged Kenwright to produce evidence that the BU signed a disclaimer to say they wouldn't tape the meeting. Totally different. Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Thing is, he didn't challenge Kenwright to prove BU taped the meeting, he challenged Kenwright to produce evidence that the BU signed a disclaimer to say they wouldn't tape the meeting. Totally different. So they admit to taping it now do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwelterTheChef Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 . The Blue Union does more harm than it does good and the sooner it is closed the better. The BU does/is doing far less damage then the current incumbant board. The club is currently dead on its feet due to gross mismanagement over the past 12 years or so. Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Swelt's, what band of BU are you from then? Which 'arm' so to speak SOS, KEIOC etc...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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