Blue4Ever Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 He was 'Boro's best player, and he helped fill in the Gareth Barry void at Villa. Last season Suarez had a conversion rate of 14% and Gerrard blasts most half chances into row Z, hardly going to shine at a club with them 2 as the main outlets. there is no argument. downing isnt good enough for the worst liverpool team in years not only that he isnt better than our current wingers. wouldnt even want him on loan whats the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Who said it was his fault!! Your comparing players for Liverpool who play in totally positions quoting stats that are totally irrelevant to My opinion on Downing being an overrated! How is it irrelevant? His job was to assist the team, he made the chances and those 2 missed them. Look at him the season before, and the majority of his career. He's a very good player, not worth £20 mil, but would be useful to most teams. You can also flip that coin Ten on players who have been good for one bad for another then bad for another it just does not work like that as I'm sure you know bud. It's the overall package that i class as overrated Himself as a player and also the fee that would be involved. I've just never rated him in any way shape or form plus for me the type of player he is is becoming a dying breed in todays game a quite slow wide man with half decent passing ability. Pace and being able to beat a man are two of the main traits needed in the modern game two of which he does not posses... He's a player in my eyes that should have from a younger age been developed into a central role. He's not that slow. He's played in the middle for Villa, and did well. He would be great cover for Gibson. there is no argument. downing isnt good enough for the worst liverpool team in years not only that he isnt better than our current wingers. wouldnt even want him on loan whats the point Who said he has to play on the wing, why not in the centre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 I think there are better players for the type of money they would sell him to us for. I dont doubt that he could do a job I dont think that is what we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Who said he has to play on the wing, why not in the centre? because he isnt a center midfielder only you think so, he's slow weak and his best attribute is shown on the wing wheres the sense in that. on loan for free from are rivals isnt going to happen and you would use valuble wages in getting him in rather than a proper midfielder we need to come in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Downing played cm in his time at villa - probably his most successful spell was in a central role. Personally I wouldn't want him as I have my doubts over his metal strength/confidence but if we signed him I certainly wouldn't oppose it. I think Moyes and his team will be the best to judge if he's worth pursuing. pete0 and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Downing played cm in his time at villa - probably his most successful spell was in a central role. Personally I wouldn't want him as I have my doubts over his metal strength/confidence but if we signed him I certainly wouldn't oppose it. I think Moyes and his team will be the best to judge if he's worth pursuing. really? i always thought he was on the right with milner in the centre and young on the left...never, ever saw him in the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) really? i always thought he was on the right with milner in the centre and young on the left...never, ever saw him in the middle MO'N played him there after Barry left. Better in the middle than on the wing imo. Edit: trying to find a some mention of it but the best* I can find is a comment on a Sunderland forum MON played him in central midfield for Villa fairly often. Signed him as Gareth Barry's replacement iirc. Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?p=13814930#post13814930#ixzz2Cy6OEqAm Agree with this comment 'Rodgers is doing a fantastic job of scapegoating Dalglish's signings.' *Leisurely googled Edited November 22, 2012 by pete0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Downing hardly ever played centrally for Villa, Milner filled in on the left whilst Downing was injured then moved back into the middle when He returned it was either Petrov Milner or Reo-coker used in the middle with Downing out left and Young on the right..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Pretty sure Houllier played Downing more centrally when Milner left with Young and the emerging Albrighton/Pires/Agbangawhore out wide. I have no evidence but I just remember him playing there!!! The majority of my mates are Villa 'fans' and him playing there just sticks out in my mind as they were raving how good he was! Edited November 22, 2012 by c1982 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Pretty sure Houllier played Downing more centrally when Milner left with Young and the emerging Albrighton/Pires/Agbangawhore out wide. I have no evidence but I just remember him playing there!!! The majority of my mates are Villa 'fans' and him playing there just sticks out in my mind as they were raving how good he was! convenient i have a few villa mates who are season ticket holders and say he never played there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 convenient i have a few villa mates who are season ticket holders and say he never played there Do you find villa fans the most clueless and fickle bunch too then?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 to be honest even though i was(obviously) joking the ones i have met are fickle as fuck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Anybody who says Downing is crap needs to take a look at this video. He is clearly world class. * Sits and waits for the first soft fooker to tell me it's fake ha ha. Or worse, believe it isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Seb Larsson does not fit in Sunderlands mould with Adam Johnson in the same squad. Larsson forced to play centally when he is much better on the right. Id have him any day over Downing. Larssons crosses are 10 times better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 to be honest even though i was(obviously) joking the ones i have met are fickle as fuck! I knew the first bit was a joke but I thought you were just showing off on the second bit because you have 'villa friends' (with two thumbs up in a squeaky voice!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 fwend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 I pretty sure Downing did play centrally as well, and I also thought that was why people started to get interested in him again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Seb Larsson does not fit in Sunderlands mould with Adam Johnson in the same squad. Larsson forced to play centally when he is much better on the right. Id have him any day over Downing. Larssons crosses are 10 times better. agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Anybody who says Downing is crap needs to take a look at this video. He is clearly world class. Sits and waits for the first soft fooker to tell me it's fake ha ha. Or worse, believe it isn't. http://www.toffeetalk.com/index.php?/topic/24621-stewart-downing/#entry314854 Posted this video the other day. See my comment after the first sentence (in white - obvs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I didn't bother to watch the clip when you posted it the other day but just have... You can't seriously have thought it was real mate? Also to use it to try and highlight your opinion on him being a delicous crosser of the ball is abit silly tbh as said you can make any player look like Messi on youtube. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9043618/Stewart-Downings-fake-Aston-Villa-skills-video-impressed-Liverpools-owners.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I didn't bother to watch the clip when you posted it the other day but just have... You can't seriously have thought it was real mate? Also to use it to try and highlight your opinion on him being a delicous crosser of the ball is abit silly tbh as said you can make any player look like Messi on youtube. http://www.telegraph...ols-owners.html Ha ha, I knew somebody would bite. Highlight the invisible writing underneath the video in my post, and you'll see what it says ........... Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Not biting but those video's are nearly always fake apart from that French bloke who is shit hot but I didn't spot what you had written mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Not biting but those video's are nearly always fake apart from that French bloke who is shit hot but I didn't spot what you had written mate The first time I saw it I was astounded. Is there an explanation of how it was done? I can guess, but it would be interesting to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I didn't bother to watch the clip when you posted it the other day but just have... You can't seriously have thought it was real mate? Also to use it to try and highlight your opinion on him being a delicous crosser of the ball is abit silly tbh as said you can make any player look like Messi on youtube. http://www.telegraph...ols-owners.html You obviously didn't read my post properly either like Avin, I added a 'white' sentence underneath the original post. Highlighting that I knew it was fake. There's a Cuellar one with a groundsman and an Ashley young one, where he's hitting the crossbar, blind folded, from the halfway line. So no, I can't seriously have thought it was real. Because I KNEW it wasn't real Here's five crosses. Five targets. 100% sucess rate. p.s. I know it's fake, but thought it was funny in context. Ha ha, I knew somebody would bite. Highlight the invisible writing underneath the video in my post, and you'll see what it says ........... See....Like the above post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 are we sharing this Avin'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Bastards the lot of you! Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 That's actually weird, as I didn't see Ten's post, so for us to both post the video, and both write in white underneath is a bit eerie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 how do you know it's fake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 how do you know it's fake? It's obviously fake but the link posted above states that Villa doctored the footage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 how do you know it's fake? Why would they add the season ticket stuff to their deleted internal footage. Its fake. Theyve even said so themselfs. The story was, if i remember correct, that the reds american friends bought him due to this video. I think thats fake too tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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