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I know alot of fans regard Cahill as just a goal scorer who doesnt contribute much else but I think recently he has improved alot of other aspects of his game. (Note: Not to say supporters dont think hes a bad player!!)

 

His link up play with Yakubu and Pienarr has been brilliant in the last few games, hes been in the thick of several of the goals scored recently, playing some lovely passes including the one midweek against brann when he flicked the ball back into the path of The Yak to finish.

 

As well as his passing his running with the ball has improved. Hes more comfortable on the ball and gets in between players to win free kicks an awful lot.

 

Its nice too se players improving before your eyes, its great to see him still finding the net but because of his new improved abilities in other areas of the game I think Tim has become an even better player than he once was.

 

TIM CAHILL....

 

 

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What has happened with his brother? On the phone in on the way home he said his 'emotional celebration' was for him?

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Cahill was quality today - you have yourselves a very rare and valuable commodity in him - the goalscoring mid-fielder.

 

Furthermore, yes, his passing, touch and link-up has improved, but what really strikes me about him is his work rate. Its pretty phenomenal to see a supposed goal-scoring playmaker working back hard and making tackles and crucially making the hard yards.

 

Cahill is a quality player and would push for a place in most Prem teams.

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Go Timmy!! Saw da goal this morning, he did g8! So nice 2 see our boxing aussie again! I'm sure his bro will be just as proud of him as we all r! :) I think it was really sweet 2 dedicate it to his bro!Keep it up!

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I'm usually very critical of Tim but was well pleased with him yesterday.

 

He seems to have added a bit more to his game over the last couple of weeks which is very pleasing.

 

The boy sure can cover ground too.

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Fair Play to Tim, he is one hell of a Player. His family have been through hell the last Few Months, however he has bounced back, and for him to Dedicate the Goal to his brother, shows what a Great Guy he is.

 

Keep it up Tim, Amazing Yesterday.

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Nice to see him back to something like normal form, if you look back at the goal he makes a thirty yard run to arrive in the box at the right time, no chance of anybody picking him up.

I've been very critical of him in recent weeks but have to hold my hands up and say when he scores goals that other midfielders cant, its good to see him him playing well again.

How many assists has Pienaar provided for his teammates this season, i fookin love him and i hope to fook we sign him QUICKLY.

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Hmmmm, his brother did go down for GBH after jumping bail, running back to Oz and then being deported back....feel a bit more for what the victim and his his family are going through/have been through than TC and his family tbh :) .

 

The attack on 11 July 2004 in Bromley, Kent left the victim partially blinded after CCTV controllers spotted Cahill's older brother kicking his victim in the head twice as he lay on the floor.

 

Police found the victim semi-conscious and bleeding heavily and speaking in January, Detective Constable Will Hope described the attack as "brutal and terrifying".

 

TC's a cracking bloke and I'm sure he loves his brother whatever the circumstances but Joey Barton probably still loves his brother as well, would a similar celebration from him be acceptable?

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Hmmmm, his brother did go down for GBH after jumping bail, running back to Oz and then being deported back....feel a bit more for what the victim and his his family are going through/have been through than TC and his family tbh :) .

 

The attack on 11 July 2004 in Bromley, Kent left the victim partially blinded after CCTV controllers spotted Cahill's older brother kicking his victim in the head twice as he lay on the floor.

 

Police found the victim semi-conscious and bleeding heavily and speaking in January, Detective Constable Will Hope described the attack as "brutal and terrifying".

 

TC's a cracking bloke and I'm sure he loves his brother whatever the circumstances but Joey Barton probably still loves his brother as well, would a similar celebration from him be acceptable?

 

I had a flag made for my mate who's in jail at the Nurnberg game, the lad made his mistakes & is paying for it but that doesnt mean I shouldnt show him I'm supporting him from out here!

 

I like when footballers make an honest statement, although I used it against him in many arguments I was secretly laughing inside at fowler's line snorting celebration. Good on the lad for sticking it back to the fans.

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I've got no problem with TC doing it at all, just disagree with comments like..

 

"His family have been through hell..."

 

...seemingly without a thought for the victim.

 

Josh got beaten up coming home from school last week, the lad's mother came to see us over the week-end and she's obviously going through rough time (police involved, son excluded from school) but I'd find it hard to sympathise with her tbh.

 

(way :offtopic: I know, but it explains why my impeccable liberal credentials have slipped a bit)

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I've got no problem with TC doing it at all, just disagree with comments like..

 

"His family have been through hell..."

 

...seemingly without a thought for the victim.

 

Josh got beaten up coming home from school last week, the lad's mother came to see us over the week-end and she's obviously going through rough time (police involved, son excluded from school) but I'd find it hard to sympathise with her tbh.

 

I get your point but if the tables were turned Mike you'd appriciate the friend put aside right & wrong and was just there for you!

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I get your point...

 

And I get yours Liam :) .

 

Back on topic it's blinding to have him back on form.

 

All players at full potential we're invincible at the moment, bring on the Italians!!!

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Tonight on BBC Radio 5, from 11:00-ish, an Evertonian will be on the station, to defend Tim Cahill's actions after scoring the goal v Portsmouth. Harry Harris from the Daily Express will argue that it was distasteful.

 

How anyone from the Daily Express can be a judge of "good taste" is frankly beyond me :) . Make Ghengis Khan appear like a wooly minded liberal.

 

Should be interesting though :) .

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people making a fuss out of nothing, cahill scored his first goal since his brother was convicted, but some of the shite been spouted is unbelieveable, "he's promoting GBH" "Doesnt care about the victim" "Should be banned"

 

this is what the judge said to chris on sentencing

 

"You have committed a very serious offence, but as a young man of previous good character I will want a pre-sentence report," the judge said over the sobs of Cahill's family.

 

"It is very sad to see a young man with so much good in him ... convicted of this extremely serious offence,"

 

"But be under no illusion: I cannot see how there can be a sentence other than a term of imprisonment for this grave offence."

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Anyone who kicks someone in the face while they are on the ground deserves to be punished!

Get over it Tim!......You don't owe your brother anything!

 

He left the country to avoid the justice system, so he knew he was guilty.

 

Of course it has to be on Tims mind, but lets hope he can settle now to the task in hand, his job!

his WELL paid job!

 

Opponents see Cahill as a major threat.......at his best he is a major threat.

 

 

Drop the handcuffs Tim..........the court case is over, there's nothing you can do now.

Just keep on punching that corner flag...........once or twice, every week would be nice!

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people making a fuss out of nothing, cahill scored his first goal since his brother was convicted, but some of the shite been spouted is unbelieveable, "he's promoting GBH" "Doesnt care about the victim" "Should be banned"

 

Please get in the real world!

 

Showing any kind of support for a mindless cowardly thug is not clever especially when you are regarded as a role model. Ok so he got himself smartened up to impress the judge and in return the judge gave him a very meaningful jail sentence for the disgusting crime that he committed together with a few words of sympathy, if the judge has been correctly quoted which personally I doubt! These cowardly crimes are becoming more common place and the vast majority are either not reported or never get to court and the lifelong problems that the victims face are ignored. THERE IS A VAST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FIRST TIME SOMEBODY APPEARS IN COURT AND THE FIRST TIME THEY COMMITTED A CRIME!

 

My sympathy for the Cahill family is zero and all their very misguided son has achieved is advertising the revolting behaviour of his brother to a massive audience! That in itself gives an indication of the sort of intelligence we are dealing with. Cahill has since apologised for his idiotic behaviour and hopefully he will now spend a little more time reflecting on the victim who has set up a new life in America and faces the possibility of total blindness in the future rather than displaying any sort of support for his brother who frankly got exactly what he deserved.

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Ok so he got himself smartened up to impress the judge and in return the judge gave him a very meaningful jail sentence for the disgusting crime that he committed together with a few words of sympathy, if the judge has been correctly quoted which personally I doubt!

 

Wrong the judge gave him the minimum sentence. a judge has got a better idea of sean cahill's character from the trial. he wouldn't give a minimum sentence to someone with a previous history of violence and/or disorder, even if they were all smartened up. but then we don't have to official court record so we can only guess on how he was presented.

 

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/tim-cahil...9554581531.html

 

the quote is bit below the picture. happy to allay your doubts.

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Wrong the judge gave him the minimum sentence. a judge has got a better idea of sean cahill's character from the trial. he wouldn't give a minimum sentence to someone with a previous history of violence and/or disorder, even if they were all smartened up. but then we don't have to official court record so we can only guess on how he was presented.

 

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/tim-cahil...9554581531.html

 

the quote is bit below the picture. happy to allay your doubts.

 

As I said please get into the real world!

 

I did not doubt that the judges quote had been put in print - I doubted whether he was correctly quoted! So no you did not allay my doubts.

 

I am quite surprised at your casual attitude to this debate? The minimum sentence for the crime was 6 years. Doesn't that in itself tell you something? I wonder if you could remain so relaxed if a member of your family had been Cahill's victim.

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i doubt for one minute cahill is agreeing with what his bro had done, but even if my sister was a cold blooded killer and ended up in jail, id still miss her, id still want her to know i was thinking of her, id still love her as i always have. regardless of any actions, sean cahill and tim cahill are brothers, actions and circumstance would not change that.

yes, there is a victim of the crime sean commited, there is no victim to tim cahill sending a message of support to his brother who he misses and clearly loves very much.

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i doubt for one minute cahill is agreeing with what his bro had done, but even if my sister was a cold blooded killer and ended up in jail, id still miss her, id still want her to know i was thinking of her, id still love her as i always have. regardless of any actions, sean cahill and tim cahill are brothers, actions and circumstance would not change that.

yes, there is a victim of the crime sean commited, there is no victim to tim cahill sending a message of support to his brother who he misses and clearly loves very much.

 

 

So your feelings for your sister who in your own words you clearly love very much wouldn't change if you discovered that she was a cold blooded killer! I wasn't actually going to dignify this garbage with a response but really I can not simply ignore your incredible stupidity. Your assumption that Cahill's actions did not offend anybody is ludicrous - personally I found them offensive - the victim who I hope has not seen them would think that Cahill was simply laughing in his face! Do you honestly believe the spin that has been put on this, and more than likely by some smart mouthed legal adviser, that he was simply supporting his brother. I sore Cahill's goal celebration live and it never once crossed my mind that it was a display of support for his brother. Condoning thuggery however did! His actions were extremely offensive and I just wonder if he even apologised of his own volition?

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Hmmmm, I agree with "once-a-blue!". If Cahill misses his brother, go visit him or write him a letter not make it public.

For all those saying "he misses his brother", should Joey Barton make a gesture for his brother Michael next time he scores???????

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So your feelings for your sister who in your own words you clearly love very much wouldn't change if you discovered that she was a cold blooded killer! I wasn't actually going to dignify this garbage with a response but really I can not simply ignore your incredible stupidity. Your assumption that Cahill's actions did not offend anybody is ludicrous - personally I found them offensive - the victim who I hope has not seen them would think that Cahill was simply laughing in his face! Do you honestly believe the spin that has been put on this, and more than likely by some smart mouthed legal adviser, that he was simply supporting his brother. I sore Cahill's goal celebration live and it never once crossed my mind that it was a display of support for his brother. Condoning thuggery however did! His actions were extremely offensive and I just wonder if he even apologised of his own volition?

 

in wasnt offended, so i guess i must condone thugary too?

do you have a brother or sister?

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in wasnt offended, so i guess i must condone thugary too?

do you have a brother or sister?

 

Sorry but I don't understand "in wasn't offended" ? If you mean you were not offended then frankly that does not surprise me and by the way that you are defending Cahill's totally inappropriate behaviour does give the impression that you have very little sympathy towards the victim of his brothers cowardly actions.

 

To answer your question yes I have both a brother and sister and if one of them committed a similar crime they would not receive any public displays of support from myself. Cahill's actions had no place in sport!

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If his celebration was to take the piss out of the victim surely he would have kicked the floor or booted the corner flag, all he was doing was showing a sign of support to his brother, and if you dont see that i think your blind, cos i dont see how you think Tim was offending the victim.

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i'm in agreeance with stevo here, once-a-blue! i think your a bit naive and going over the top.

 

at no point has cahill said he support the act of his brother. it isn't a case of sympathy. i don't care what you say, if your brother or sister did something like that, you'd think they were stupid but it would hurt you to lose them.

 

he wasn't condoning the behaviour, he wasn't saying free my brother, he was just showing that he was going to miss him, and that he's upset by it all.

 

99 people out of 100 will stick by their family, through thick and thin, it's part of our nature, and if it happened to you, you'd be heartbroken, whether you disagree with the actions or not.

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i'm in agreeance with stevo here, once-a-blue! i think your a bit naive and going over the top.

 

at no point has cahill said he support the act of his brother. it isn't a case of sympathy. i don't care what you say, if your brother or sister did something like that, you'd think they were stupid but it would hurt you to lose them.

 

he wasn't condoning the behaviour, he wasn't saying free my brother, he was just showing that he was going to miss him, and that he's upset by it all.

 

99 people out of 100 will stick by their family, through thick and thin, it's part of our nature, and if it happened to you, you'd be heartbroken, whether you disagree with the actions or not.

 

If you think that I am being naive and going over the top I think you should have another look at Cahill's goal celebration again - the words naive and going over the top describe Cahill's behaviour very well - do you think the victim appreciates that thumping the corner flag is Cahill's usual goal celebration? Take off the blue specs and forget about the spin that Cahill tried to put on his actions Think you are missing the point boys and defending some very inappropriate behaviour. Remember what most Evertonian's thought about Fowler sniffing the touch-line.

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im sorry but the victims thoughts about cahills thumping of the flag is irrelevant. whether its usual, not usual, offensive to him or not it's nothign to do with him.

 

the handcuff thing is related, and that was showing his sadness, find me a quote or an image displaying cahill condoning the actions of his brother. if crossing your wrists is offensive because it is perceived to be condoning violence, well i don't know whats happening with the world. a celebration is personal, cahill was reflecting his sadness about losing his brother. i don't see the issue here, i wonder if the victim feels offended?

 

i can't even see a reason to argue this anymore, if you or anyone else perceives something, that's up to you. i perceive some oranges to look a bit red, doesn't make them red.

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im sorry but the victims thoughts about cahills thumping of the flag is irrelevant. whether its usual, not usual, offensive to him or not it's nothign to do with him.

 

the handcuff thing is related, and that was showing his sadness, find me a quote or an image displaying cahill condoning the actions of his brother. if crossing your wrists is offensive because it is perceived to be condoning violence, well i don't know whats happening with the world. a celebration is personal, cahill was reflecting his sadness about losing his brother. i don't see the issue here, i wonder if the victim feels offended?

 

i can't even see a reason to argue this anymore, if you or anyone else perceives something, that's up to you. i perceive some oranges to look a bit red, doesn't make them red.

 

Ffs what do you find so difficult to comprehend? His brothers actions were reprehensible and any kind of support from Cahill can easily be misconstrued. Personally if I did not no better I would think that his cross hands gesture and the punching of the corner flag were related. Perhaps you also disagree with the following link in such a dismissive and juvenile manner! Make sure you read the views of the 26 people who felt sufficiently incensed to comment - NOT SURPRISINGLY CAHILL GET'S VERY LITTLE SUPPORT FOR HIS MOROSE BEHAVIOUR!

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770

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Ffs what do you find so difficult to comprehend? His brothers actions were reprehensible and any kind of support from Cahill can easily be misconstrued. Personally if I did not no better I would think that his cross hands gesture and the punching of the corner flag were related. Perhaps you also disagree with the following link in such a dismissive and juvenile manner! Make sure you read the views of the 26 people who felt sufficiently incensed to comment - NOT SURPRISINGLY CAHILL GET'S VERY LITTLE SUPPORT FOR HIS MOROSE BEHAVIOUR!

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770

 

I'm sorry but you've lost the argument (and the plot imo) when you look to Daily Mail readers for moral guidance. Good grief <_< .

 

TC has apologised,

 

"I...intended to signify to my brother that I was thinking of him and missing him. It was not intended to cause any offence to any other party and I wholeheartedly apologise if any offence was caused.”

I was dubious about it also if you look back in the thread but it's done to death now. Says in the TT user guidelines..

 

"it's worth noting that when a discussion reaches a dead end or logger head. We have found it much better from experlence to simply Agree To Disagree".

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I initially thought it was harmless enough, but as someone said earlier - if Joey Barton had've done the same thing I would have thought 'what a tit.' Cahill didn't need to give his brother a public display of support, because quite frankly, he doesn't deserve one - do it in private.

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