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No idea if he's any good (suspect he might be :P ) but it gives us another team to follow in the World Cup :) .

 

End of Nash (at least he fulfilled his dream and played for us, even if it was only once) and probably one of Turner and Ruddy. I'd like to see Ruddy stay personally.

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Surely an International first choice keeper won't want to spend his life sat on the bench?

 

 

While it's good to have 2 quality keepers available, I think he'll have t play some if he's to be kept happy.

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http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/association=pol/news/newsid=1457549.html

 

 

I wonder if he'll still be as happy to have joined us when he realises he won't play?

 

Surely Moyes would have told him though he'll start off as #2 to Howard?

 

He does sound promising though, perhaps we'll see him in goal more often than we did with Nash (assuming he leaves).

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Reading that he sounds like a genuine nice guy.

 

It's just strange that he's coming, after he's had those "staggering" offers from around the world that he'd come to sit there as 2nd choice goal keeper, unless there's something we don't know about Howard?

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Am I the only one finding this a non story?

 

Moyes doesnt seem to care much for the NO.2 spot, under him we have never really had a solid no.2 (and that's inc. Tricky Dicky haha)

 

It seems to me that if hes half decent then thats all that matters, which isnt neccasary a bad thing, Howard is a fine keeper.

 

I don't think Ruddy and Turner will ever have the day sadly, I think one of them deserved a crack at it, even if it is as understudy to Howard.

 

(You watch Mucha will end up being the new Buffon :lol:

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http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/association=pol/news/newsid=1457549.html

 

 

I wonder if he'll still be as happy to have joined us when he realises he won't play?

 

 

Surely Moyes would have told him though he'll start off as #2 to Howard?

 

 

Reading that he sounds like a genuine nice guy.

 

It's just strange that he's coming, after he's had those "staggering" offers from around the world that he'd come to sit there as 2nd choice goal keeper, unless there's something we don't know about Howard?

 

 

Am I the only one finding this a non story?

 

Moyes doesnt seem to care much for the NO.2 spot, under him we have never really had a solid no.2 (and that's inc. Tricky Dicky haha)

 

Love the way everyone is presuming that he's going to come in as the 'No2'...who says he's not coming in for a first team spot? This guy is meant to be pretty decent, and highly rated, what if Moyes see's him as the new number 1?

 

It might take time admittedly but we all know Howard is uncapable at commanding his box, so maybe Moyes is looking for a better keeper? (Prepares for the bonbardment)

 

He maybe coming in as an 'initial' No2 with the view to knock Howard off!

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Moyes is trying to build competition in a spot where there is no competition. What makes players better is competition in practice. Howard has none. He know's he's the best in trainging all we have is Nash and Turner. So you bring another good keeper in put him in some games see how he does there and in training and let the two compete against each other. Howard is my favorite player. He's the reason I found everton and became a fan. But he's starting to get on in age and he needs someone to push him.

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Another bit of unusual dealing from Everton, and another smack in the face for Turner and Ruddy.

God knows why EFC have this obsession with goalkeepers, not a season goes by that we dont bring in another keeper.

If i was Ruddy or Turner my transfer request would be in the post today, i would have wasted 5 years of my career here waiting for the chance to step up into the squad.

I would be quite happy to sit on the bench and get a bit of recognition, but they keep bringing in old has beens who never play anyway. Why. ??

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Mucha's not an old has been hes 27 and starts at the international level with slovakia

 

Yeah i know he isnt, but Im talking about Nash and the one before him.

Even so its the same principle, why go out and buy a pound of Apples if you already have an Orchard.

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IMO Turner is crap and I dont really rate him from the times I have seen him (admittedly not too often) and Ruddy has looked half decent and has looked very promising in Scotland but he is only around the 23 mark.

 

My view would be to sell Turner and keep loaning Ruddy out for 1st team experience until someone makes a good offer or he is good enough for the 1st team. Goalkeepers mature much later than outfield players but they do need the 1st hand experience playing competitive matches. He would be in a much worse position if we kept him at the club to sit on the bench every week and play maybe 3/4 games a season.

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My view would be to sell Turner and keep loaning Ruddy out for 1st team experience until someone makes a good offer or he is good enough for the 1st team. Goalkeepers mature much later than outfield players but they do need the 1st hand experience playing competitive matches. He would be in a much worse position if we kept him at the club to sit on the bench every week and play maybe 3/4 games a season.

I'd go along with that. We need a quality back-up to Tim and if DM (presumably with input from Chris Woods) thinks that neither Turner or Ruddy are up to it yet then we need someone else. Nash will be thirty-eight next season and is not brilliant anyway so if we can get a young full international on a free then great.

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Another bit of unusual dealing from Everton, and another smack in the face for Turner and Ruddy.

God knows why EFC have this obsession with goalkeepers, not a season goes by that we dont bring in another keeper.

If i was Ruddy or Turner my transfer request would be in the post today, i would have wasted 5 years of my career here waiting for the chance to step up into the squad.

I would be quite happy to sit on the bench and get a bit of recognition, but they keep bringing in old has beens who never play anyway. Why. ??

 

 

Because neither Turner nor Ruddy are good enough

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Because neither Turner nor Ruddy are good enough

 

What not good enough to sit on the bench :blink:, how many League games has Nash played, or the fella we had last season, think they've only played a couple of League Cup games between them in two years.

 

Christ mate i'm good enough to sit on the bench, cos they wont play anyway.

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What not good enough to sit on the bench :blink:, how many League games has Nash played, or the fella we had last season, think they've only played a couple of League Cup games between them in two years.

Only because we've been lucky in that Tim's not been injured.

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"Only because we've been lucky in that Tim's not been injured".

 

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That goes for all the players Cahill, Arteta, Jagielka, and Fellaini, have all been hurt long term, but we get on with it and others are able to step in.

What do we do, buy cover for Rodwell, Coleman, and Gosling, because they are not as good as the 1st team men in possesion.

 

If its only a game or two theres no problem, Ruddy or Turner are quite capable keepers.

If its going to be long term then you think about bringing in another keeper, but there is no sense in having two top keepers when you can only play one.

 

He might be on a free I'm not sure, but we will still be paying him 10, 20, 30 thousand pounds a week to sit where Ruddy or Turner can sit. IMO.

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What not good enough to sit on the bench :blink:, how many League games has Nash played, or the fella we had last season, think they've only played a couple of League Cup games between them in two years.

 

Christ mate i'm good enough to sit on the bench, cos they wont play anyway.

 

 

Im not sure I follow your logic, if indeed there is any. Are you asking what is the point of having quality on the bench?

I would have thought the answer to that was self explanatory, and what happens if Howard breaks a leg or something ? Would you be happy to have either Ruddy or Turner in the side for any length of time? It would be to late to start rummaging around for a decent keeper once Howard was injured

 

If we follow your logic we could just get rid of all the other keepers and save a few bob on wages because they wont play anyway!

 

 

Oh and by the way he is on a free

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Im not sure I follow your logic, if indeed there is any. Are you asking what is the point of having quality on the bench?

I would have thought the answer to that was self explanatory, and what happens if Howard breaks a leg or something ? Would you be happy to have either Ruddy or Turner in the side for any length of time? It would be to late to start rummaging around for a decent keeper once Howard was injured

 

If we follow your logic we could just get rid of all the other keepers and save a few bob on wages because they wont play anyway!

 

 

Oh and by the way he is on a free

 

 

Yeah Duncan, I'm well aware that you and a few others do not agree with My opinion, just as i dont agree with yours, I've never been swayed by the majority so wont change mine just as i wont change yours.

I gave my opinion and thats all there is to it mate.

Amen.

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Yeah Duncan, I'm well aware that you and a few others do not agree with My opinion, just as i dont agree with yours, I've never been swayed by the majority so wont change mine just as i wont change yours.

I gave my opinion and thats all there is to it mate.

Amen.

 

 

Im not trying to change your opinion I was just trying to understand it thats why I was trying to clarify that you were saying that having quality on the bench is a waste of time

 

If that is what your saying you have to admit it is shall we say an unorthodox view point

 

And you didnt answer the question about what happens if Howard gets injured

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liverpool can't replace Reina, Torres, Gerrard or a few others come to that with players of matching ability!

 

Would a really good goalkeeper be happy to sit on the bench and only get a couple of games every few years because the 1st choice goalkeeper wasn't injury prone/lucky with injuries?

 

Most teams have only one recognized goalkeeper at the club.

 

Howards just about as good as anyone in the prem, it would be nice to have another really good keeper ready to go.....maybe Mucha will be just what we need.

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Im with Bill on this one, he is going to be an expensive bench warmer wages wise. Only thing i can think of is that maybe a class keeper on the bench might push Howard to excel, some serious competition. Ruddy and Turner may well be sound keepers but theyre not close to Tims standard. Maybe another international keeper will be...

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Well!.....On the subject of reserve goalkeeper, check out poor old Barnsley!

 

The score today at Newcastle was 0-0 (after 42 mins) when first choice keeper (Steel) was sent off!

 

On came the ( I guess ) 2nd keeper......final score 6-1.

 

I'm sure going down to 10 men didn't help much either :mellow:

 

 

I don't think any team that I can think of has a brilliant reserve goalkeeper ready to step in, as mentioned it's an expencive option.Plus if he's really good he isn't going to want to warm a bench.

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Im with Bill on this one, he is going to be an expensive bench warmer wages wise. Only thing i can think of is that maybe a class keeper on the bench might push Howard to excel, some serious competition. Ruddy and Turner may well be sound keepers but theyre not close to Tims standard. Maybe another international keeper will be...

 

 

 

Lol Some Evertonians never cease to amaze me I cant beleive people are complaining that he is too good a signing!

 

He is a free transfer and I havent heard anything to make me think he is on big wages so I fail to see a problem

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Lol Some Evertonians never cease to amaze me I cant beleive people are complaining that he is too good a signing!

 

He is a free transfer and I havent heard anything to make me think he is on big wages so I fail to see a problem

 

i think what he was getting at was that maybe the lad might be able to push/challenge howard rather than just be a back-up and warm the bench

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whos to say mucha wont come in and be no 1 while tims been a steady keeper hes not been outstanding hes a bit unsure when to come off his line for crosses maybe moyes thinks mucha can be better.

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No if you read back he was agreeing with Bill that its a waste of money have a quality signing on the bench

 

i know he was, at first, i just think that the last line of his post indicated that he was thinking that he might challenge. he made reference to ruddy and turner not being up to scratch and then said that maybe another international keeper may be...i interpreted that to be maybe now we can have some competition between the sticks.

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Good bit of business if you ask me. Haven't seen anything of him yet but I'm sure we'll get the chance at the world cup.

 

Quality competition can only be a good thing all over the pitch.

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I think you'll be surprised with what this keeper has to offer. Its an excellent signing imo, he is the product of the trainer that taught Fabianski and Boruc, but without the so called "Polish fumble syndrome". His handling of the ball is excellent, 1 vs 1 is nearly legendary here and he has an exceptionally powerful kick. He performs very well under pressure and basically carried my whole dead-beat team on his back by himself through the season. His biggest asset however is his willingness to better himself and work hard to achieve set goals, I have nothing but good things to say about him. btw. yes Im a Polak and yes our league is nothing compared to yours, but to me he is a sure shot. You'll see him in first 11 soon enough, mark my words. That said - go Everton! He's ecstatic to be playing for you guys.

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I think you'll be surprised with what this keeper has to offer. Its an excellent signing imo, he is the product of the trainer that taught Fabianski and Boruc, but without the so called "Polish fumble syndrome". His handling of the ball is excellent, 1 vs 1 is nearly legendary here and he has an exceptionally powerful kick. He performs very well under pressure and basically carried my whole dead-beat team on his back by himself through the season. His biggest asset however is his willingness to better himself and work hard to achieve set goals, I have nothing but good things to say about him. btw. yes Im a Polak and yes our league is nothing compared to yours, but to me he is a sure shot. You'll see him in first 11 soon enough, mark my words. That said - go Everton! He's ecstatic to be playing for you guys.

Thanks for that :) .

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I think you'll be surprised with what this keeper has to offer. Its an excellent signing imo, he is the product of the trainer that taught Fabianski and Boruc, but without the so called "Polish fumble syndrome". His handling of the ball is excellent, 1 vs 1 is nearly legendary here and he has an exceptionally powerful kick. He performs very well under pressure and basically carried my whole dead-beat team on his back by himself through the season. His biggest asset however is his willingness to better himself and work hard to achieve set goals, I have nothing but good things to say about him. btw. yes Im a Polak and yes our league is nothing compared to yours, but to me he is a sure shot. You'll see him in first 11 soon enough, mark my words. That said - go Everton! He's ecstatic to be playing for you guys.

 

 

I'm not saying he's a bad keeper, I just don't see Moyes dropping Howard to give Mucha a go.

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Honestly im really pleased bout this signing, he sounds a good guy aswel, very amitious and talented. I can't wait to see him given a go, who knows!? He might be able to command his box, english or not :lol:

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I'm not saying he's a bad keeper, I just don't see Moyes dropping Howard to give Mucha a go.

So you're saying there's not mucha va chance of it happening :P .

 

 

 

 

TAXI!

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I'm not saying he's a bad keeper, I just don't see Moyes dropping Howard to give Mucha a go.

 

Fair enough. Can't say I've got giant knowledge about Everton so I'll leave that to your judgment. Mucha's a bit younger so he has time to prove his worth.

 

Some additional info if anybody cares: He sat on the bench for a year when Fabiański was goalie in Legia until he moved to Arsenal in '07. He was no-ones favorite, but proved his worth. Kept a clean sheet for 634 minutes in 07-08 and appeared in all the games last season. Him about moving to Everton: "I am an ambitious guy and I always said that I love English football and English weather. Despite my affection for Premiership I rejected the first offer made by Everton. After proving my worth with Arka (our defense last season was basically non-existent and it was up to him to save our skin) they came back with an offer I just couldn't refuse. I'm interested in playing proper football, offers from Spain, Italy and France are all good, but secondary when it comes to fulfilling my dream by playing in England." He was picked footballer of the year with 70% of votes. Other English clubs that were interested in him: Wigan, Sunderland, Tottenham, Arsenal and Stoke. I saw Arsenal's scouts myself on a number of occasions. I'm glad he's moving to Everton though, I hope you guys will greet him warmly on Goodison Park.

 

He really should pay me for this good pr, but he doesn't :(

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Fair enough. Can't say I've got giant knowledge about Everton so I'll leave that to your judgment. Mucha's a bit younger so he has time to prove his worth.

 

Some additional info if anybody cares: He sat on the bench for a year when Fabiański was goalie in Legia until he moved to Arsenal in '07. He was no-ones favorite, but proved his worth. Kept a clean sheet for 634 minutes in 07-08 and appeared in all the games last season. Him about moving to Everton: "I am an ambitious guy and I always said that I love English football and English weather. Despite my affection for Premiership I rejected the first offer made by Everton. After proving my worth with Arka (our defense last season was basically non-existent and it was up to him to save our skin) they came back with an offer I just couldn't refuse. I'm interested in playing proper football, offers from Spain, Italy and France are all good, but secondary when it comes to fulfilling my dream by playing in England." He was picked footballer of the year with 70% of votes. Other English clubs that were interested in him: Wigan, Sunderland, Tottenham, Arsenal and Stoke. I saw Arsenal's scouts myself on a number of occasions. I'm glad he's moving to Everton though, I hope you guys will greet him warmly on Goodison Park.

 

He really should pay me for this good pr, but he doesn't :(

Legia, i trust your judgement mate and i'm looking forward to watching him first hand in the W.cup. He will get a warm welcome, don't worry, all new players do! Ive only seen videos after we were linked with him and he doesn't do too bad but to get over 70% of the league votes is impressive and more so for a GK! So we shall see :)

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(Has anyone actually seen Taxi lately!!???)

 

Whether he gets in the first team or not is irrelevant to some extent.. the most important thing is that T-How is pushed for his position (as much and as well as all the other players/positions are).. as it only makes them better. If he does manage to break into the first team, great!.. if he manages to make T-How better, great!... it's only if he does neither, or is so bad that T-H 'disproves' (sorry, little bit drunk and can't think of the opposite to 'improve'), that we can say he's a failure. I, for one though, am a bit excited about this signing, I'm hoping he's gonna push a little bit harder than our recent keeper signings have (Nash, etc).

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