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Laudrup isn't a feasible choice. I don't care if he's won a few games at Swansea or done well for a short period, is that really going to make a difference to us ?

 

Please read the answers on here or look him up. Laudrup has done really well as a manager since 2002. That 11 years of successful management. Not a few games, not a short period. Ill help you out:

 

2002–2006 Brøndby 2007–2008 Getafe 2008–2009 Spartak Moscow 2010–2011 Mallorca 2012–

Swansea City

 

After his playing career ended with Ajax, Laudrup became a coach at age 36 when he started serving as an assistant coach for the Danish national team coach Morten Olsen in 2000. The national team would play a 4–2–3–1 formation, depending on two fastwingers and with the aim to dominate games with a short-passing possession game. Together they led Denmark to the knock-out stage of 2002 World Cup, after which Laudrup took the job as manager for Brøndby in the Danish Superliga. As his assistant coach, Laudrup paired up with former Danish championship winning manager John Jensen, who had played alongside him in the Danish national team.

At the start of his reign, Laudrup proclaimed a tactical scheme close to that which Olsen and he had coached at the national team. Laudrup renovated the Brøndby team by letting a large contingent of older and experienced players go, in favour of several new offensive players, and he gave the chance to young talents from the club's youth scheme. To ensure the defensive strength of the team, he hired the proven national team player Morten Wieghorst. In his first year as head coach, he managed the team to aDanish Cup win against FC Midtjylland in the final. After finishing runners up twice, he finally led the team to The Double in 2005.

 

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magnify-clip.pngLaudrup as Brøndby manager

After finishing runners-up in the 2005–06 season, Laudrup left Brøndby along with assistant coach John "Faxe" Jensen. He could not come to an agreement with Brøndby about renewing his contract, and therefore decided to leave the club. He was associated with several new jobs, including head coach of former club Real Madrid and rumours that he would replace Lars Lagerbäck as head coach for the Swedish national team. In 2007, Brøndby decided to name a new lounge at the stadium "The Michael Laudrup Lounge", with Laudrup's approval.

On 21 June 2007, he was linked to a move to Madrid's La Liga team Getafe by sports newspaper Marca. This was confirmed on 9 July 2007. During his stay in Getafe the club reached the final in Copa del Rey, but lost to Valencia, and the quarter finals in the UEFA Cup (lost in extra time to Bayern Munich). During his tenure, as successor to former Real Madrid manager Bernd Schuster, he brought a new brand of exciting and free-flowing attacking football to the club which brought back memoires of Laudrup as a player. His team, which was not one of the established forces in Spanish football, enjoyed comparative success. However, he performed only one season as manager, tendering his resignation in May 2008.[16]

After he announced his departure from Getafe he was linked with jobs at Valencia, Benfica, Chelsea, Blackburn Rovers, Panathinaikos, CSKA Moscow and West Ham United. He almost got the job at Panathinaikos, but according to Danish media he wanted an option to allow him to leave, if he got an offer from a Spanish club. This could not be accepted by the Greeks, who chose Henk ten Cate instead. [17] On 12 September 2008, it was officially announced that Laudrup signed a 18-month contract with Spartak Moscow. However, he spent only 7 months in the post, being sacked on 15 April 2009 after Spartak's 0–3 loss to Dinamo Moscow in the Russian Cup.

 

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magnify-clip.pngLaudrup at a Champions League press conference in November 2008, after the match Spartak Moscow and Udinese

On 22 October 2009, Spanish media announced that Laudrup would be appointed as new manager of Spanish side Atlético Madrid, replacing the short and unsuccessful run of Abel Resino, following Atletico's 4–0 Champions League defeat at the hands of Chelsea, but Laudrup and the club weren't able to agree on terms. The day after, on 23 October, Resino was sacked and Quique Sanchez Flores was appointed as coach as second choice instead of Laudrup.

In July 2010, Laudrup was appointed manager of RCD Mallorca on a contract that was to run until the end of June 2012. In his first season in Mallorca, Laudrup managed to keep a struggling Mallorca team from relegation, which was suffering from losing many first team players and who was ejected from the Europa League due to a bad financial situation. At the beginning of the 2011–2012 season, on 27 September 2011, Laudrup resigned from his job, following the firing of his assistant, Erik Larsen. Laudrup cited that great frustration with Lorenzo Serra Ferrer, the club's Director of Football, leading to a bad work climate as the main reason for his resignation.[18]

On 15 June 2012, he was appointed manager of Swansea City on a two-year contract. His first competitive match as Swansea manager came as an impressive 5-0 away win at Loftus Road versus Queens Park Rangers.[19] At Swansea City, Alan Tate says that Laudrup was considered to be the best player in training despite being age of 48.[20]

On 23 January 2013, Laudrup lead Swansea into their first ever major Cup final, defeating Chelsea 2–0 on aggregate over two legs in the League Cup semi-finals.[21]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Laudrup is my first choice if Moyes goes.

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Laudrup ticks all the boxes for me, been there done it. Can still boss a game in training - demonstrating what he expects from his players. Plays good football. Will have 1 year remaining on his contract in the summer so will not cost a fortune...

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Laudrup ticks all the boxes for me, been there done it. Can still boss a game in training - demonstrating what he expects from his players. Plays good football. Will have 1 year remaining on his contract in the summer so will not cost a fortune...

 

That last bit is an important point!

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In a word No. Maybe some would welcome the idea for that famous bit of sportsmanship a decade ago, but I simply can't even imagine Di Canio being Everton manager, and there's a few number that don't even welcome the idea of having a non-British manager when Moyes finally leaves.

 

I saw the Laudrup honors list and profile or whatever you see it as, and maybe there is scope there to do something, but I still don't think he could be a success here and certainly not duplicate the league success that Moyes has. All I recognize is, he was a quality player in his time, and is a decent individual and while not aware he has been involved in management for so long, and had moments of recognition, It's simply not a name to get excited about. Just differences of opinion is what it is.

 

Say for arguments sake we end up with nothing this season and with it miss out on a european place and Moyes says 'that's all', and Laudrup comes in during the summer, and by end of next season we have a first trophy in what will be 19 years or even a Euro berth, with the Dane, I'll be more than proud to stand up and say 'well done' but the fact of the matter is, I'm just skeptical he could do a job here.

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In a word No. Maybe some would welcome the idea for that famous bit of sportsmanship a decade ago, but I simply can't even imagine Di Canio being Everton manager, and there's a few number that don't even welcome the idea of having a non-British manager when Moyes finally leaves.

 

I saw the Laudrup honors list and profile or whatever you see it as, and maybe there is scope there to do something, but I still don't think he could be a success here and certainly not duplicate the league success that Moyes has. All I recognize is, he was a quality player in his time, and is a decent individual and while not aware he has been involved in management for so long, and had moments of recognition, It's simply not a name to get excited about. Just differences of opinion is what it is.

 

Say for arguments sake we end up with nothing this season and with it miss out on a european place and Moyes says 'that's all', and Laudrup comes in during the summer, and by end of next season we have a first trophy in what will be 19 years or even a Euro berth, with the Dane, I'll be more than proud to stand up and say 'well done' but the fact of the matter is, I'm just skeptical he could do a job here.

 

I actually do respect your opinion, but you still haven't given us a reason as to why you don't think he can do a job here. I would love to know why.

 

DM had managed Preston for four years before he came to Everton. First year he avoided relegation, then he took them to two playoffs which they lost. Next year he achieved promotion to league 1 and managed to keep them there in his last season.

No honours at Everton.

 

Laudrup has been a manager for 11 years (almost as long as Moyes)

Left Bröndby after 3 titles in 4 years

Got to the quarter finals in the UEFA cup with Getafe

Runners up in Copa del Rey with Getafe

Got Swansea to their first ever cup final

 

I'm the first to say that I would prefer it if DM signed a new contract with Everton, but I think that Laudrup would be the ideal replacement if he doesn't.

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It's 4-00 in the morning and we've just got home but once again Laudrup isn't a feasible choice. I don't care if he's won a few games at Swansea or done well for a short period, is that really going to make a difference to us ? I don't mind Moyes as an individual, he's done well, but where's the end product ? 11 Years now and nothing won, although this season does represent an opportunity to finally once again win something, but it's too early to tell. Even if we had the investment to do something, Moyes' dour and lacklustre tactics and philosophies dictate we won't get very far. It's one main reason why Manchester United will never accept him. He's had over a decade and nothing won, but I want to see someone else come in and have a go. Yes we may get european soccer every now and again but all it amounts to is stabillity and safety first. We have a very good opportunity this year with a feasible chance of FA cup semi-finals but we've seen before how Moyes loses it at the most critical stages or when there's a tangible chance to win something.

 

To the above, I simply can't envisage Hitzfeld, Advocaat etc ever being Everton manager, so I don't know quite where that leaves us. I'm not even aware of a Thomas Tuchel ?, but something has to give sooner or later. If Moyes does depart at end of season, I'll be a little sad to see him go after all these years, and it'll be strange to see a new face in charge, but I'm adamant he's done as much as he can and maybe it's time for someone else to have a go and see where it takes us. We still once again have opportunities this season so will wait 'til then but that's how I feel about it.

Potentially if Laudrup guides Swansea to a cup victory at the weekend, then he has won more than Moyes has and done it in his first season with a smaller club than ours, which is also why i don't agree with the view that we MUST have investment to have success, it's nonsense imo. You gave Redknapp, Curbishly and Pardew as choices? really they are yesterdays men and would offer us nothing. Laudrup has obviously continued the good work done by others, has an eye for a player and plays the game in the right way, he is everything we should look for in a manager imo.

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Pardew has been a manager since 1999 and only won one single trophy. The Football league Cup. A non trophy in my opinion.

He has been sacked from 2 clubs. Had the longest defeat record at one.

Spoke badly about Everton and has signed a 8 year contract with Newcastle.

 

 

Curbishly has been a manager since 1995, has only won league 1.

Has not managed a team since 2008?

 

 

Redknapp has a few honours to his name but please god no not Redknapp. Corruption allegations and arrests. Spending way over the top. Puts himself in front of the team. Loves being in media.

 

Can we please stop talking about these 3?

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In a word No. Maybe some would welcome the idea for that famous bit of sportsmanship a decade ago, but I simply can't even imagine Di Canio being Everton manager, and there's a few number that don't even welcome the idea of having a non-British manager when Moyes finally leaves.

 

I saw the Laudrup honors list and profile or whatever you see it as, and maybe there is scope there to do something, but I still don't think he could be a success here and certainly not duplicate the league success that Moyes has. All I recognize is, he was a quality player in his time, and is a decent individual and while not aware he has been involved in management for so long, and had moments of recognition, It's simply not a name to get excited about. Just differences of opinion is what it is.

 

Say for arguments sake we end up with nothing this season and with it miss out on a european place and Moyes says 'that's all', and Laudrup comes in during the summer, and by end of next season we have a first trophy in what will be 19 years or even a Euro berth, with the Dane, I'll be more than proud to stand up and say 'well done' but the fact of the matter is, I'm just skeptical he could do a job here.

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I have I posted before that Laudrup is the OUTSTANDING candidate, rumours are Chelsea are looking at him. I love Moyes but if he wants to go he has done his rip and deserves the chance to better himself if he wants. Lets face it Laudrup is a multi millionaire and im sure he will take half of what Moysie is on

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I have I posted before that Laudrup is the OUTSTANDING candidate, rumours are Chelsea are looking at him. I love Moyes but if he wants to go he has done his rip and deserves the chance to better himself if he wants. Lets face it Laudrup is a multi millionaire and im sure he will take half of what Moysie is on

Let's be frank, no manager is going to come in right away and make what Moyes earns. Moyes earns so much because he has been here for 11+ years, has been very successful, and needs to be on high wages in order to discourage him from leaving for a club that might offer similar wages to him and a better transfer budget.

 

*edit* Moyes is in a unique situation, and I don't think it can be assumed that Everton would pay any manager what we pay Moyes.

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I still think Moyes is on too high a salary, despite his good work, but money in soccer and wages is a general concern I have, in that they're without question more than enough. Do some players really need, or even justify £150,000 a week ? Fucking nonsense...

 

Back to the Laudrup debate, and I don't see him as an outstanding candidate, merely just a name that has been talked about recently. I realize now he has been in management longer than I first assumed, and has done well here and there, and is a decent man and all round good individual, but heads must rule hearts on this for me. I say it again, I don't think he could be a success here. What works in one country or league may not work for another. Take Walker at Norwich as a home example though, when he arrived in 1993/94 and many thought great things were expected, but the sum total was a near relegation and all round poor show. The thing is, we simply can't tell if Laudrup or any other name, when Moyes goes, and comes in, will work or not, but I feel I have pretty good instincts. It's all about opinions and that's what I have to say on the issue, right or wrong.

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When Moyes was appointed, who on here shouted ''Brilliant, we have a great manager in the making!'' or ''Who the hell is he?'' or even ''Meh"....................! I went with "Never heard of him, well that's it then, we're doomed captain Manering! Turned out oh do differently though...........COYBs[1].gif

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Martinez has just gone up in my rankings. Much better tactics than Moyes. Would be interesting to see what he would do with our squad.

I don't think Martinez is bad. He knows a player in the transfer market, has to deal with selling his best player transfer every summer, has minimal funds to work with, and is very tactically adept. I mean how many players in this day would try either the 3-5-2 or 5-3-2 or 3-4-3 or whatever it is he goes with.

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Is that why they are almost relegated ?

 

Let's not get too carried away with our loss.

 

We're all pissed off, but seriously.

repeatedly too. But, thats more down to the fact he has a crap defence. Hes similar to Holloway many ways, their main faults being theyre too gung-ho.

 

If Moyes goes? I have no doubt in my mind that he will now, and i dont care. When he goes, there will be celebrations and all his hard work over the last 11 years will be undone by his inability to adapt or hold his hands up occasionally.

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Is that why they are almost relegated ?

 

Let's not get too carried away with our loss.

 

We're all pissed off, but seriously.

They barely have any fans other than the 18000 who turn up every week and have to deal with losing their best player every season and only pay half the wages we do. This season alone they lost 3 first team players Rodallega, Moses, and Diame we only sold Rodwell (who only managed 14 games for us) and got more money for him than Wigan brought in. Keeping Wigan up is much more difficult job than finishing in the top half with Everton.

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They barely have any fans other than the 18000 who turn up every week and have to deal with losing their best player every season and only pay half the wages we do. This season alone they lost 3 first team players Rodallega, Moses, and Diame we only sold Rodwell (who only managed 14 games for us) and got more money for him than Wigan brought in. Keeping Wigan up is much more difficult job than finishing in the top half with Everton.

 

 

Would you say Wigan are any worse than the Everton team Moyse took over?

 

Difference being Moyse turned us around from relegation fodder to European challengers, Wigan have not progressed under Martinez

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They barely have any fans other than the 18000 who turn up every week and have to deal with losing their best player every season and only pay half the wages we do. This season alone they lost 3 first team players Rodallega, Moses, and Diame we only sold Rodwell (who only managed 14 games for us) and got more money for him than Wigan brought in. Keeping Wigan up is much more difficult job than finishing in the top half with Everton.

 

Neither are comparable Pete.

 

My point is we lose today and fans need to deal with it, as the alternatives are what? Wigan were better than we were, and, everything went right for them. Our team don't have the mental strength to be winners.

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Would you say Wigan are any worse than the Everton team Moyse took over?

 

Difference being Moyse turned us around from relegation fodder to European challengers, Wigan have not progressed under Martinez

Not hard to take Everton away from the relegation zone. We had a manager that was playing Steve Watson upfront, the team was much better than people like to make out, easy job making us into a top half team again. He nearly relegated us then was very lucky to get the cash injection from the Rooney sale. Unbelievable that we haven't won away against a Sky4 for over a decade and he's kept his job. He's done a good job, but not good enough. Much like Sam Aladyce at Bolton.

 

Ridiculous to compare Wigan with Everton, as financially we are worlds apart. It's a miracle they have survived this long. Their top earners are on roughly the same as Anichebe who was just about a squad player when he last had his wages boosted.

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The annoying thing for me is that the same players get picked time and time again.

 

We should take a risk with the rest of the season, and the worst that could happen is we would have young players with experience come the end of the season.

 

Give Duffy a go in defence, and Oviedo a go in midfield, or even at RB, and so on.

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If Moyes leaves by end of season, and there's a real increased chance of that I feel right now, then I'll be pleased enough. Too much frustration, the inability to get results over teams we should be beating, bizarre tactics and squads, embarrassments, I don't have all day to elaborate further. Simply can do no more for this club, and as for winning anything, it's a fucking pipe dream. Cannot handle or manage the big occasions as this year once again demonstrated. If Wigan get Millwall or Rovers in the semi-finals it'll only add insult to injury from today but there's no sense in crying over spilt milk. Still irritated by everything.

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Not hard to take Everton away from the relegation zone. We had a manager that was playing Steve Watson upfront, the team was much better than people like to make out, easy job making us into a top half team again. He nearly relegated us then was very lucky to get the cash injection from the Rooney sale. Unbelievable that we haven't won away against a Sky4 for over a decade and he's kept his job. He's done a good job, but not good enough. Much like Sam Aladyce at Bolton.

 

Ridiculous to compare Wigan with Everton, as financially we are worlds apart. It's a miracle they have survived this long. Their top earners are on roughly the same as Anichebe who was just about a squad player when he last had his wages boosted.

 

Exactly people seem to overlook this. Wigan probably average around 20,000 fans for each home, have risen to the topflight in area which is traditionally the home of supporters of the Manchester and Merseyside clubs (ie lack of merchandise sales) and they probably have the lowest commercial appeal of the Premier League (ie low sponsorship deals).

 

To put it in a litle perspective Wigan's CURRENT wage bill is £39.9mil and Turnover of £50.5mil.

 

Everton's wage bill in 2004-5 was £30.8mil and £37mil in 2005/6 with turnover in 2005/6 at £60mil.

 

Everton's current wage bill is £63.4mil and TO of £80.5mil.

 

The point of this is that way back in 2005-6 we had a similar wage bill to what Wigan have now and that I would guess that the average premiership wage has increased by 75-80% in that time. Even now, our wage bill is bigger than Wigans total turnover.

 

Its actually amazing that Wigan are still in the league tbh. They have several Championship level players even ones that were playing today, and they still taught our lads a lesson. Martinez set his team out perfectly. They pressed our CM's who gave the ball away countless times, they completely shut Baines and Fellaini down and they exploited Colemans lack of positional sense. They ran rings round our midfield and Moyes didnt have an answer.

 

Even in the second half when they looked a bit jittery, they still limited us to half chances and they even threatened themselves.

 

Martinez has done very well with the resources at his disposal, especially to get his team to play the way they did today and especially of a moral crushing defeat the week before. You could see that he had learned his lesson, something I havent seen from Moyes in his 11 years.

 

I'm not saying that he should be the next Everton manager but to dismiss his credentials is just pure ignorance.

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Moyes as a tactician is SHITE! no bottle, no plan B, no player development.

 

He's very good at getting certain players to do 4-5-1 the way he wants. No evolution in his time, but the way he carries himself you'd think he's won the league.

 

There is a new era of managers, tacticians, forward thinkers and moyes isn't in that category. Martinez, laudrup, lambert, Lennon, I'd have any of them.

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That's enough we are not good enough and moyes cannot reply. The performances since Xmas has been shite I think all the talk about contract is affecting the team. Move on moyes and let someone who has a bit of tactical mouse and a plan B takeover. Sell fellani or stop fucking playing out of position

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That's enough we are not good enough and moyes cannot reply. The performances since Xmas has been shite I think all the talk about contract is affecting the team. Move on moyes and let someone who has a bit of tactical mouse and a plan B takeover. Sell fellani or stop fucking playing out of position

 

I don't laugh much but that did raise a snigger.

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Really not bothered if he goes. Infact, I'm starting to look forward to it.

me too, and I feel guilty.

 

He is undoing all the good work he spent a decade building up in the space of 3-4 months because of his refusal to adapt.

 

Moyes as a tactician is SHITE! no bottle, no plan B, no player development.

 

He's very good at getting certain players to do 4-5-1 the way he wants. No evolution in his time, but the way he carries himself you'd think he's won the league.

 

There is a new era of managers, tacticians, forward thinkers and moyes isn't in that category. Martinez, laudrup, lambert, Lennon, I'd have any of them.

Lambert and Lennon, no no no no.... Laudrup isnt going to happen, Martinez might well...

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My stomach actually went a little funny after reading that he may have been sacked. Whilst I think he's ran out of ideas I dread to think who we would replace him with as at the moment I can't think of any suitable candidates. crying.gif

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Cannot see this happening. Why sack him and have to pay him off when his contract is up in the summer anyways?

 

Pay off would be relatively small with only a few months on his contract.

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Moyes as a tactician is SHITE! no bottle, no plan B, no player development.

 

He's very good at getting certain players to do 4-5-1 the way he wants. No evolution in his time, but the way he carries himself you'd think he's won the league.

 

There is a new era of managers, tacticians, forward thinkers and moyes isn't in that category. Martinez, laudrup, lambert, Lennon, I'd have any of them.

 

I think he actually did well start of the second half against Wigan. We made changes, had a different shape and played much differently - that was the plan B. But to be chasing 3 goals at that time was a big ask.

 

BUT - as pointed out he's stubborn and seems to be only one dimensional when he's drawing up a team sheet at the start of the match.

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In the forum on Matchdays I reckoned that Bill has areal opportunity here to solve many problems at once.

Man up and sack Moyes now and the team has the rest of this season with a new manager to get sorted out, bring the younger players up to speed, instil some guts, determination and tactics into the squad for little outlay.

As MikeO has said, Moyes is at the end of his contract so there is little to pay out.

This season has gone already and we won't be relegated so what's the harm in getting a fresh start now while there is time? Blood the younger players, give them their opportunity while there is little harm if they don't win......FFS they won't be crying gutless pricks like Fellaini at the very least!

Sell Fellaini in the summer and get in hungry players who want to play here....midfielders who want to play, not mercenary pricks who play for the money then whinge when things don't go their way.

If Moyes was half a manager he'd resign, if Bill was half a chairman he'd sack him. Man up Bill. Do it. You know you have to for the good of the club.

 

Stand by for the tirade of "what'll we do without Moyes?", "who'll replace him?", "he just needs to change a few things", "the sky is falling, the sky is falling".

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Why sack a guy when there are just 10 games left ?

 

This is a guy who has given us 10 years.

 

 

In the forum on Matchdays I reckoned that Bill has areal opportunity here to solve many problems at once.

Man up and sack Moyes now and the team has the rest of this season with a new manager to get sorted out, bring the younger players up to speed, instil some guts, determination and tactics into the squad for little outlay.

As MikeO has said, Moyes is at the end of his contract so there is little to pay out.

This season has gone already and we won't be relegated so what's the harm in getting a fresh start now while there is time? Blood the younger players, give them their opportunity while there is little harm if they don't win......FFS they won't be crying gutless pricks like Fellaini at the very least!

Sell Fellaini in the summer and get in hungry players who want to play here....midfielders who want to play, not mercenary pricks who play for the money then whinge when things don't go their way.

If Moyes was half a manager he'd resign, if Bill was half a chairman he'd sack him. Man up Bill. Do it. You know you have to for the good of the club.

 

Stand by for the tirade of "what'll we do without Moyes?", "who'll replace him?", "he just needs to change a few things", "the sky is falling, the sky is falling".

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Too early to sack Moyes... we still have a chance at a Euro place.. and DM is the best man at the moment to guide us there at the moment. Bringing in someone new would just be disruptive - if you were to make a change of managers, do it in the off season (early).

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Too early to sack Moyes... we still have a chance at a Euro place.. and DM is the best man at the moment to guide us there at the moment. Bringing in someone new would just be disruptive - if you were to make a change of managers, do it in the off season (early).

What good in the world would a Euro campaign do us? Our squad is pitifully small, I honestly think Euro would be too much at present. Better I think to re-group now and have a longer opportunity to build for next season.

Please don't tell me that a Euro spot would bring the team together etc etc. A Cup 1/4 final didn't do it! Bring new players into the club?......nah! didn't happen for Stoke or any of the others that have floundered in Euro comps. Geordies?.....OK, but they had to pay big for them!

I for one would rather bite the bullet now with good prospects on the horizon than suffer more of the shite we are being served up as football. Sometimes you just have to do it for the better future of the club and forget about the current season. Shortsightedness and short-term band-aid fixes are not viable alternatives when the better option is available at comparitively little cost. Could cost very little if we don't get a manager that costs 3mill a year.

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The prospect of European football would be attractive to new players. Maybe more attractive to investors, plus financial benefits. More games would mean more opportunities for fringe and younger players. I think it's still worth going for.

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Rumour has it Moyes has been sacked.

 

Don't kill the messenger, but it was posted by one of the admins of the biggest Everton forum.

 

 

My quotes are off on my pc. ;) serves me right for saying that everything was fine.

 

Meant to ask Avin if the forum was Loveeverton.proboards and if the admin with the rumour was him.

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