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Would like to see one more defender or striker if possible, but ultimately the roster is in a good spot before the season has even begun. Many months of panic for nothing. Just reinforces that Martinez needs to be trusted until he gives us a reason not to.

I don't see why the two are mutually exclusive.

I don't see why the two are mutually exclusive.

I don't see why the two are mutually exclusive.

Nah work permits are not a problem for Everton , we can even get them for players we haven't signed

"It's definitely off, but he's currently having a medical at FF." - Sky

What you see is what you get. He's like Naismith, only on the back end. He's not going to stand out but he's not going to fuck everything up, either. Cheap, experienced, and content with his role. Perfectly fine #4 CB.

They will be valid concerns if there are no more additions before 1st September. Until then theyre frustrations, understandable frustrations, and nerves considering the "lack of depth" we have.
 
But consider this. When Martinez talks about bringing kids through, I imagine it will be the League cup, to an even greater extent than last year, which will balance out somewhat the 1st teamers availability for Europe. Depends of course, who we draw and how we progress.
 
Then theres the players coming back from injury and the players who had breakthrough seasons. Stones is likely to be more involved, who wasnt considered much in the 1st half of the season. Neither was Alcaraz since he was always injured as was Hibbert. So we already have twice the backup at CB and another RB going into this season. Garbutt has put in a few decent performances in preseason again and Oviedo (who missed most of the season either injured or playing second fiddle to Baines) now offer genuine backup rather than names on the books. Besic and Gibson (again, injured most of the season) offer genuine backup, competition even, to Barry and McCarthy. Pienaar and Kone also missed a lot or most of last season so same applies. McGeady should be getting better match fitness so we have potential backup on the wings.
 
So between Stones, Alcaraz, Garbutt, Oviedo, Hibbert, Oviedo, Besic, Gibson, McGeady, Kone and Pienaar we have 11 players that we couldnt really turn to during the season (Besic the obvious exception), mostly because of fitness. Thats why we struggled; all the injuries forced us into picking from a vastly reduced squad. All of them are on their way back. It could be argued that thats exactly why we need more people in but theres no guarantee that will help either mind you, see our ill-fated loaned striker from January. We have the depth, we just need better luck with injuries and more youngsters breaking through. Luck we cannot influence, the kids however we can.
 
Im not sure if this makes sense, Ive done my shoulder in and am on horse pills for the pain so might be talking out of my ass (excuse the poor joke) but does it make sense? And, not to repeat myself again, there are 3 weeks to go until the window closes! We have done excellent work this transfer window in getting so many important players and the manager tied down, lets celebrate what we've done rather than worry about what may or may not happen in the near future.

I know I take the glass half full POV on just about everything but to me the squad is very close to being complete. One winger and one striker loan/permanent i dont really care. I dont understand all the pissing and moaning about the squad we've got. It is the deepest squad we have had in years. So our 4th CB and 2/3 option at RB aren't good or old and our 3rd ST is coming off a torn ACL and our 4th CM the same....this is what it is like to play with the big boys and I am over the moon that we challenged for 4th last year and this year we can do the same and play in Europe.
 
I know this forum is for opinions and I understand that we could use 5-6 more really good players but they aren't coming in, period. 14/20 PL clubs would die to be in our position we need to appreciate how special this squad is given the financial restrictions we operate under. Bitch and moan about that all you want (I know I do) but also realize how incredible the squad is considering.

Sounds pretty accurate to me.

I'll trust that Roberto knows what he's doing, but my initial reaction to this is negative. Yes, it's nice that he'll get minutes there, but that club is an absolute trainwreck right now. Not sure I'd want a young kid in that environment.

He reminds me of a lesser version of Tim Cahill. Not identical players, and I think Cahill is better, but both get their job done with hard work and workrate rather than technical ability or flash. Also both seem to be excellent role models off the pitch. Good on him.

Also need to account for increased minutes for Barkley and Stones. Then hopefully Kone and Alcaraz can stay at least sort of healthy. And then you figure one or two of Garbutt, Kennedy, Browning, etc. will earn some chances. And hopefully Martinez is leaving enough room in the budget for an addition or two in January.
 
 
We haven't added many new faces, but we haven't lost any, either. The squad's improvement will hopefully come from internal progression, being a bit healthier, and the few moves that Martinez has either already made or will make.

You all appear to be insane...which only confirms I made the right choice for a club.

Hi Ben, I really don't want to sound harsh and I am happy you have chosen everton as your preferred team but I have never fathom how someone can just pick a team and start supporting them.
 
It's either drilled into you or an experience has made this choice for you.
 
Supporters really do baffle me nowdays. When I was young I never listened or toll on board anything my dad said but due to him supporting everton and me being around that experience I was hooked. It's like something you cannot choose. I could have taken a easier more smug, glory hunting path when I was younger and followed man utd or liverpool for that matter but it chooses you.

Me too. I will openly admit I thought we had no money IF this goes through I'm happy to say I was wrong and well done EFC

I'll hold my hands up and say my skepticism about us having the funds there this summer was misplaced. Well played, Everton, well played!

Holy shit does it feel good to have this opened up, and not even for a loan this time. He's ours. Not Chelsea's, not anyone else's. He's not here merely on a mission to improve himself. He's 100% Everton.

Stones (20) - McCarthy (23) - Barkley (20) - Lukaku (21).
 
What a spine.

The good thing is that the Lukaku signing was really the only move left that ABSOLUTELY HAD TO be made ASAP. The squad is strong enough that Martinez can wait until the final days of the transfer window if he wants. I imagine we're going to add another winger and maybe a CB.

The good thing is that the Lukaku signing was really the only move left that ABSOLUTELY HAD TO be made ASAP. The squad is strong enough that Martinez can wait until the final days of the transfer window if he wants. I imagine we're going to add another winger and maybe a CB.

So many people freaked out over nothing. Unsurprising, really. Let's all learn from this and have a bit more faith in Martinez and even Kenwright, yes?

So many people freaked out over nothing. Unsurprising, really. Let's all learn from this and have a bit more faith in Martinez and even Kenwright, yes?

It's not a question of knowing what's coming but of having faith that the people at the top will sort things.
 
Some of us did and some didn't, psychic doesn't come into it.