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Before we all get too carried away with Martinez, I'm waiting to see when the defensive change happens.
 
This defence was built under Moyes, a defensive tactician who got at least one thing right - his back four. Built on solid foundations for Martinez to add his attacking players and knowledge.
 
The big question mark over Martinez will be his ability to replace Moyes back four. If he does this with success then we have a real talent on our hands. However, previously we have seen his sides ship goals. Put it this way you wouldn't see a Moyes side go to Anfield and lose 4-0. On another night it could have been 8-0. A scoreline, that we have seen Martinez sides get beat (or close to).
 
For me this is the major question mark. Let's see who he replaced Distin and Jags with. So far his only defensive signing has a red flag waved over his head. No pace and always injured.

I'm not ya mate ya bellend and teams don't create atmosphere's is that why we were still singing at 4-0 down against the shite.... If yav got to pipe up about something at least make it constructive MATE

Nice try, Mark!

Im surprised to see Stones getting some stick.
 
He isnt a natural full back and that is obvious. Long term he isnt going to be playing that position but in the short term he has done pretty well.
 
All this getting to the byline and whipping crosses in is bollocks. Coleman very rarely does that anyway because unless its on Martinez wanta his full backs to recycle the ball if a chance iant on and both Baines and Coleman knock it back and start again lookong for more penetrating balls into the box like the one Stones played to Osman.
 
Stones doesnt have the 1v1 skills that Coleman or Baines have but neither does Hibbert or anyone else that can play RB.
 
Stones did well yesterday and used the ball intelligently and until we have Coleman fit again he is more than capable of holding his own in that position.

Matt I honestly don't understand how you can't see he's not good enough for our system and really is a poor option. Not trying to sound like a nob but are you American?
 
He consistantly slowed down our attacks by playing it backwards from advanced positions. You watch the difference when Coleman come back.

I think thats the bit he is lacking in to be honest,
 
I know it is unfair to compare him to Coleman, but in situations where Seamus would take the full back on and either get a shot in or hit the bi line and get a dangerous cross in Stones would either turn around and pass it backwards or lump it into the box from deep when we havent got anyone in there who could get on the end of it
 
Apart from his positional play being a bit iffy I dont think there is too much wrong with him defensively but he offers nothing going forward. I can see him having a big future at the club but just not at RB

Stones is an awful RB going forward. We've been lucky to have an exceptional RB who can defend and go forward just as well, it's part of the modern game. An old School RB would at least get the crosses in. It's just doesn't exist from Stones. I watched him get into a good position time and time again
 
Stones gets into a crossing position and passes it backwards without fail.. So frustrating!

could be that...maybe we're just spoiled and setting the bar too high...or maybe it's because he's looked so cool at cb he just looks clumsy at rb..not sure what it is but i just never felt he looked comfortable

who other than the shite? we won the game, stop spreading your doom and gloom and be a real fan and be happy we won.

biggest win of the season..made it hard for ourselves but a stunner to win it
 
thought naismith did really well again down the middle...showing more that he isn't a winger

to be honest mate i thought he was shit as well...just doesn't look comfortable for me

Why on earth would anyone want Rodwell back? He's never fit.

Someone who we could acquire who is better than Lukaku for £20m is Benteke. Much much much better player.

Think you need to look at the stats Mirallas.
 
Lukaku has 9 in 20 appearances.
 
Benteke has 7 in 18 appearances in a much worse team.
 
Hardly "much much much" less.

Honestly mate, I've only been on this forum a week but some of you're views are way off the Mark. We did not create anywhere near enough clear cut chances. There was 2 in the whole game. Mirallas drive and McCarthy. Everything else is not even worth mentioning.

Holtby would be a great buy he is being touted for around £5 million... Surely we cant pass up on a bargain like that?

Of those 18 chances we didn't make The keeper work at all. 18 shots makes it look as those their goal was under severe pressure. It wasn't.

I love Roberto but I think he got it horribly wrong tonight. He opted to play his favourites when some of them clearly were not fit enough
Hibbo should have played ahead of Stones and a fit Hietinga is surely a better bet than an unfit Alcaraz and an unfit Jags
 
Osman should have started ahead of a clearly unfit Piennar
 
Rodgers did his homework and they had us sussed before a ball was kicked
 
We were way to gung-ho and should have been trying to get a foothold in the game instead of playing straight into their hands and leaving Sturridge and Suarez the freedom of the park
 

Typical as if it's not bad enough that I have the shitest night imaginable having to listen to those inbred Norwegian fuckers taking the piss all night I have to go and miss the part where Everton had a go 

Well that was a bad day at the office and typically it had to be against them lot....
 
All went wrong from the start the selection wasn't great but obviously due to injuries there was not much more choice but the one player right from the off that looked woeful was Pienaar.
 
He just seemed to be lost and completely off the pace lost the ball countless times in the first 15 minutes I'd have started McGeady over him all day long.
 
We can harp on about injuries which fair enough have obviously had a big effect on what went on today but excuses aside we got a spanking and from how we played the first half a fully deserved one at that.
 
We'll move on dust ourselves down and hopefully come back with a few players fit and ready and give Villa a good spanking.

Mirallas, Barkley, Deulofeu, Coleman & Baines. They are real talent. The rest can't change a game with magic.

Of those 18 chances we didn't make The keeper work at all. 18 shots makes it look as those their goal was under severe pressure. It wasn't.

Mirallas, Barkley, Deulofeu, Coleman & Baines. They are real talent. The rest can't change a game with magic.

Mirallas was the only positive of tonight but he had no one to feed his final ball too.
No good having more passes if it comes to nothing. What was the shooting stac's?
That's where it counts, especially when they're on target.

You call that having a go? Seriously? Yeah we had lots of the ball but we did fuck all with it. We weren't sharp in attack, we were slow and lethargic (unless Mirallas had it) so all the shite had to do was sit in. They barely had to do a thing.