Gwlad

Or a Boeing aircraft.

Or a Boeing aircraft.

Love mushy peas, me.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/12/champions-league-draw-to-be-made-by-computer-due-to-complex-new-format
I'm sure there's no scope for anything dodgy here at all.

I still think he is the perfect man for the job given the circumstances and I really don’t see those circumstances improving, they may well get even worse, for the foreseeable future
He is the first manager to get a tune out of these players for years but people seem to forget that. I think we had a very good first half of the season but given how threadbare the squad  is, not Dyche’s fault, I think it was inevitable we would struggle over the festive period anyway. And that is before you factor in all the off field issues, the run of fixtures and the points deduction
Is it really any wonder that it’s knocked the confidence out of the side?
We need to break this cycle of changing managers every year, that’s what has got us in this mess in the first place
If people want to throw stats about and completely ignore the context surrounding them then that is up to them but thankfully Dyche still appears to have the support of those that matter, the players and Thelwell
 

Please don't talk to your dad again until after the end of the season.

He's out of a job again.

I agree, think he will move on. He has more than shown he is ready to step in to most Premier league clubs and demand to be in their starting line up.
If he get called up for England squad, which is a big possibility, we all have seen in the past how that turns heads.
It will all be about extracting the very maximum fee for him. Not many clubs with massive budgets this year, but we have to play Levy type hardball and make clubs pay a premium. At his age a buying club would really have a CB they build a team around - could have him in the team for +12 years. There will be lots of clubs interested in him, we simply have to be ruthless in our demands.

we have come off the pitch well and truly beaten in both performances and results wise under a lot of managers in our recent history, players going on the pitch with lack luster efforts at best. Preceeding managers have not been particulay unlucky, they have just put teams out that have come of the pitch deserving to be beaten. It's been embarressing to watch - most of them with much better resources available to them than Dyche has. The past few months our team has been frustrating to watch as we have deserved more from a lot of the games. I don't feel embarressed by this team.
Even Ancellotti, he had a good run of a dozen game up to Xmas, but that team died a slow death after the turn of the New Year and played some pretty poor football. We have to remember a fair bit of the financial pain and anxitiy being suffered  this season is actually down to the money spend in the Ancelotti season. 
I don't think anybody is saying that Dyche is the best manager since sliced bread. He is however, better suited to where this club are now than the a lot if not all who have been here over Moshiri ownership.  We don't have a great record in chopping and changing managers. It seems that bit by bit each manager has chipped away at the club, even Ancelotti given the financial concequence of that season.  
Performances and effort of the player on the pitch are nowhere near bad enough for me to warrent sacking yet another manager. A new manager bounce isn't a given, and generally comes when a managers loses a dressing room. I don't beleive Dyche has lost the dressing room.

Please don't talk to your dad again until after the end of the season.

Loads on social media calling for his head, have these people learnt absolutely nothing these past 8 years?

My therapist says I shouldn't support Everton.

All pace and belief has gone.
Can't see how we get anything out of this now if we can't pick up the pace again.

End of season tension for the third year running 😟

Behind the scenes this club must be a cauldren of stress and anxiety at the moment. It is effectievly rudderless at the very top with lot of very seriouse stuff going on - 3/4 the way thought a new stadium build with massive cheques needing to be signed weekly, point deducutions and appeals going on over the whole season (the results of which could make the difference between us going down and staying up), possible new owners who everybody knows are not without there own risks (we are NOT getting a Middle East consortium with effectively endless resourses), we are effectively searching down the back of the sofa for any spare £1M at this moment in time to try and fund our new stadium and intrest payment that come with it.
This is not a great place to be a manager at the moment - anybody with a ounce sence would steer clear for the next 18months until the dust has well and truly settled. I am pretty sure if Dyche had crystal ball and had known what was likley to be the working conditions at the club when he was offered the job, he may very well have passed and waited for a more normal job to come along, one that was simply about the football on the pitch!! .
If the club paniked and got rid, who of the calibre needed would be queing up to take on the Everton manager roles and be better placed than Dyche to get us over the line in the next 11 games.
I think Dyche has been very supportive of the players who are going on the pitch week in week out. It's obviouse for all to see that players ARE missing chance after chance, he can only say some many time - they have the 'freedom to miss chances'. We all know; players included, they are going to have to start put a few more of them away at sometime. He is far from throwing players under the bus.
I and others are a long way from thinking Dyche is perfect, but he is a fairly good fit for this club at the moment. He is a manager who does not go around crying about the situation the clubs in, he rolls his sleeves up and deals with it, and he is getting players to do the same. There are plenty of things going on at this club where a managers or players could be quite easily thinking "what's the f8cking point' its a circus around this place, I'll probably be better off somewhere else come the summer!!". I don't feel this at all from Dyche and the squad.  
None of us were expecting miracles this season, we all though mid table mediocrity would be plenty acceptable this season given upheaval and resources at the club, just keeping away from a third relegation battle. If we take away the point deductions, then that is pretty much where we are as a footballing side (and maybe this is what Dyche is as a manager). But at this very moment in time I am more than satisfied with mediocrity, I am very weary of trying to change things up on the management side, as another minor slip in this department would see us relegated. Premiership is a very unforgiving league and given o
A time to stick not twist. 
 

Sev , we don't choose our siblings!!

Oh. And I'm watching Married... with children again. Like the series.

I like it. I'm useless at formatting so it makes  a nice change to see a chart I understand 😂

I might find watching these a bit depressing.

I like it. I'm useless at formatting so it makes  a nice change to see a chart I understand 😂

Thelwell did indeed do what was possible with the lack of funds we have and how attractive our club is. Respect for him and very much agree with you.
But to hope that players can perform is not really my cup of tea... ehh coffee; if it's up to hope then you have no control Then you leave the decisions to things not reachable. But ok, I know what you mean 🙂

I think Dyche is doing a good job under extremely difficult circumstances, are there any board members left at the club.
Questions about our point's appeal, about the new ground, about the ownership, about players in or out.
Only one man is in front of the camera SD and he never dodges a question. 
This club is in the worst pace at the moment in its history, one man is keeping it going and fighting for us fans.
Without our points deduction we are 13th and comfortable, not been able to say that for many a year.
Give the man time, and a budget, and a proper run club, then judge him.

I think in normal circumstances Dyche might be going through a run of games where questions might start to be rasied about the team and how it's progressing results wise and playing wise under his management. 
However, we are so far removed from normal circumstances as a club could be.  Dyche is working under the most unusual circumstances we could really imagine at a football club. The points you have won being taken off you based on things that went on before your arrival and then with the spectre of even more points being taken away from you hanging over you. You add to this the madness of how the ownership and board situation is at this club, the long standing Chairman passing away. All these signficant things happening off the pitch over 2/3's of a season is quite astounding really.
All this has to negatively affect the players and football management side of the club.
The biggest thing that is really going against Dyche and the wider team at the moment seems to be a bit of luck - Performance wise easily half of our defeats/draws could have quite easily have turned out as wins on a different day. I don't beleive he as lost the players or dressing room at all, in fact they all seem to be working together to try and change the results. 
I imagine he would have loved to have been in the position 10 games ago to try and take on games a little more going in to them as a mid table team. However, he has had the tractor beam of the points deduction that is keeping us (and will do now for the rest of the season) pulled toward the bottom three - that in itself brings a nervouseness to the players and fans alike. 
Everton are at what I feel is a very delecate tipping point at the moment -  Until the points deductions and ownership issues are sorted out, the last thing we should do is be trying to change manager again. Especailly as Dyches main downfall to me has been that he's been very unlucky this season - both on and off the pitch.
If this had been a 'normal' season, just about football - I could quite easily see this team having a two or three more wins under their belt and now being safe on between 35-40 points. 
I would actually like to see Dyche manage in to next season, with hopefully points deduction behind us and a new owner and board in place - to me he has and is showing enough to suggest he deserves a normal season.

We haven't had the money to spend so I think Thelwell has made the best with what he had. Desperately need a proven goal scorer but DCL is not at the party right now (personally hope he has a moment and can kick on). We haven't managed to get points from opponents that we probably should have so time is running out especially with another points deduction hanging in the balance. Can only hope that the likes of Doucs, Branthwaite, Harrison can chip in as well as DCL and Beto.

You won’t be surprised when I say I don’t feel sorry for them in the slightest!