Haiku

1 minute ago, memmaclub2 said:

Can ppl see with the right manager getting a good team from this squad?

Yes, I can see us lower mid but safe with a proper manager.

Surely this is the lowest low we have ever been. I would be surprised if Frank isn't gone by tomorrow. I would resign if I was him.

39 minutes ago, London Blue said:

Thirlwel and Lampard and his team are part of a plan to bring longer term stability to the club. Sacking Lampard now would be giving in to short term panic. We have to hold our nerve and see this through. 

Sorry, but this sounds naive. Who was appointed for anything else apart from Allardyce? We can easily find ourselves looking for stability in the second tier if we don't act immediately. Stability means steady progress and we are no better than last season.

P.S. Actually we are worse. We were sitting 14th with 18 points after 16 games last season.

32 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

Dyche is a survival specialist? Um - what happened to Burnley?

TBF they sacked him 8 games prior to being relegated. Not a fan of his though.

14 minutes ago, patto said:

It’s not an option to sack Lampard and his staff we have to spend whatever money we have on new players. 
and back Frank and Thelwell. 

why?

I think he was a panic buy. We couldn't identify and sign a player we need, they knew that, but we had to sign someone.

Makes little sense to keep him nevermind where do we finish. We have no improvement over last season. He was consistantly bad throughout his stint at Goodison. It wasn't him that saved us from relegation. Awful on field decisions, awful recruitment. Bringing in another manager could do nothing and we end up relegated, but a new manager could turn things aroud like Howe did with Newcastle. There's no better time to pull the triger now before it's too late. We are going nowhere with Lampard.

1 minute ago, c1982 said:

 

100% if we were to sack Lampard our shortlist would read…

David Moyes

Roberto Martinez 

 

Truth to be told If we can take the best out of both we will be flying high.

I know it is unpopular opinion, but I think Roberto can get us out of this mess at least only temporary.

He was my idol as a player, but I did not wanted him as an Everton manager. We need experienced guy who knows how to build from the bottom up. Frankly, not many are up for the challenge we are offering.

He was once the most potent attacking midfielder in the league. The fact that we are in dire need of goals and he isn't playing speaks volumes.

We lack a striker and Dele, who once scored 20 PL goals for a season is sitting on the bench. 

I'm sorry not following right now, what happened to Douc? Another injury?

2 hours ago, SpartyBlue said:

Thanks. It’s odd though given that he’s scored 26 goals in something like 41 games of time over the last couple of seasons. That they have multiple strikers they prefer over a player with that sort of return is a bit unusual.

That's true, but it's not as simple as converting minutes to full matches. Oumar Niasse would have 9 goals in just a little over 16 games for us, which is even greater return. If nothing else, that makes Guirassy a prolific bench striker, but there are doubts he's good enough for a regular starter.

57 minutes ago, SpartyBlue said:

Which begs the question, at 26 and with a good goal record, why has he not played more?

Because he's not their first choice striker, Gaetan Laborde is. Rennes supporters fancy the chance of selling him to Everton and bringing someone better in. They think he lacks technical ability and that he doesn't suite Rennes fast paced football. That's pretty much a consensus on their forums.

2 hours ago, Ghoat said:

I'd rather have Lorenzo Lucca if we're going for size, but I have no problem with a towering striker if he has some technical skills.

Yeah well, Lorenzo is a gem in football manager, but in reality all he got is a run of 6 goals in 6 matches in Italian Serie B and then season long dry patch. Nowhere near ready for top league football. Furthermore he already signed for Ajax.

Stats wise that Sasa lad is more mature, but apparently missed half a season with shoulder injury. Also what strikes me he caught COVID 3 times last season.

Woah. Did we really paid €40m for this kid?

For once we signed two premier league captains speaks a lot. We were lacking characters on the pitch. If these types of signings don't work out I just have no clue what else will. I'm hoping for a safe mid-table finish, that's all.

38 games , 11 Goals 13 assists last season with Rennes. Impressive stats.

11 minutes ago, StevO said:

I agree. If it’s a loan with an obligation to buy then why not just buy him and defer the payment, that’s all it’s doing anyway. And taking up a potential loan spot for someone else. 

There's certain advantage, because they do it quite a lot in Italian Serie A. I've seen players on two year loan with arranged transfer to the loanee club. Frank Kessie to AC Milan being a prime example, though he just joined Barcelona on a free.

12 hours ago, Goodison Glory said:

In case anyone was in any doubt about how unreliable this guy is...an hour per game on average for those games he actually plays...and only 25% of all mins played since we bought him. #shocking

This is for last season only, mate. Average since we bought him:

73.5 minutes per game

43.5% of mins. played

12 minutes ago, RuffRob said:

http://sportwitness.co.uk/marcel-brands-details-everton-issues-structure-problems-figting-managers-difficult-transfer-interference/

Its actually good to hear those in the thick of the club actually publically speak, and pretty much confirm what has been going on this past 5-6 years. Its the reason I can't get overly enthusiastic about Lampard or Thelwell or whoever comes in on the football side of this club - current owners have continually poked their beaks in and unravel any steady progress that may have been going. It was only January when we where the biggest shambles of all. 

We desperately need new owners.  

Let's not forget he signed a new 3 year deal prior to his sacking, so he got hefty compensation. I wonder why he didn't just run down his contract and left by himself?

9 minutes ago, c1982 said:

Our saviour…

I don't get why anyone would protest against oil painting. 

Pienaar story all over it. He'll be back soon and we'll be competing with Tottenham for top 6 in 3 years, mark my words. 

6 hours ago, StevO said:

My first thought too. I hope they are telling the club not to be selling anyone until they have control. 

I guess we are under transfer embargo until the takeover situation is resolved.