Palfy

Exactly someone tell bull shit talk he can't leave the past behind.

John if the over 65s hadn't been allowed to vote the remain would have won, I can't help feeling that people who it has least effect on have possibly effected the future of those who are still setting out in life for a Britain they remember with nostalgia.

I go to the Ryder cups the Americans only have one chant USA USA from now on I expect to hear USR USR.

Still here Jazzy just got out the shower.

I think you do

The problem is when your dealing with Mourinho if he's got a figure in his head that he wants for a player he won't budge, he's been like that everywhere he's been and doesn't back down he'd rather let someone play in reserves than lose on a deal. There not desperate to sell so you've got a choice meet their value or look elsewhere

I can't believe that the people who have been defending Koeman with post of the age of defence and DCM, have said they would be happy to take another 33 year old, if Koeman attempts to buy him and the board allow it then our future looks very bleak

Looks like history repeating itself at the moment.

I can't help thinking it would have been interesting to have given him one more opportunity, to see if the form he had hit in the U23s could have been replicated in the first team, it would have cured my curiosity. Good luck to him in a lot of ways he's been a model pro took it on the chin that he didn't fit in Koeman's plans and worked hard to earn himself a move to fight another day.

I didn't know Koeman was forced to sell Stones before he could buy Bolasi, Stekkers and Gana, there's me thinking that Moshiri said he could go because he had been promised he could go at the end of the season, and that they had money to spend.

The way the table is looking at this moment in time, we could finish on less points this season but still be in a higher position in the league, if that was to happen to me that would be failure not improvement.

No you wouldn't expect him to change it completely, but after approximately 40M spent and six in the job it wouldn't be unfair to expect better than where getting.

Koeman hasn't got the dressing room with him, they are for the most the same players as last season who bar sloppy defending and able to hold on to a lead still played some very good football. We didn't hear or see any adverse reactions to Martinez's players after the first 5 games of the season when we were 2nd with 13 points. Then we play Norwich he thinks that this is a gimme or Mickey mouse cup and makes changes and we get tonked, that knocked us out of our stride and from that point on he as constantly changed shape and personnel, even if a player had a good game next week he would be on the bench and you can see in the interaction between him and his players there's not a lot going on, if you look at the the relationship Klopp has with his players you can see they love him and would do anything for him the respect is so great. Koeman has only him self to blame for the lack of football inability he is serving up week in week out and to blame the players and the previous manager for the last four and a half months is burying your head in the sand, he has to be responsible for our displays he sends his team out.

Most sensible thing said today, and what happens from here on is down to others, unless someone would like to organise a wholesale demonstration, but were not quite at that stage yet but not far off.

Golden parachute as you call it, do you know of anything that is written in Koeman's contract that said if we sack you in the next year you go with nothing, if you don't and that was to happen then the amount we gave Martinez would pale into comparison to what koeman would get, but that's business and that side doesn't worry me, because if it wasn't them it would be someone else.What concerns me is the way we have been playing and the managers lack of any understanding of what to do, now if Koeman has to go I'd rather he went with his 20M than suffer what we are seeing for much longer, in the grand scheme of things both payoffs are a spit in the ocean and good luck to them, that's lottery of finding a good manager, and maybe the board should brush up on their interview techniques before they go throwing millions around.

Who the cat

So not a lot of backlash against Trump or Republicans from Democrats about the possible validity of his win. Sounds like people are coming to terms with what happened in the election and just want get on with what's been dealt, regardless of their feelings towards Trump.

But why keep changing the system, we looked fairly good last half hour against Southampton and go to win the game, and then next game it's like he's learnt nothing and completely changes the system and personnel.

Spot on

It's like Koeman is only person who doesn't know Barry can't do it any more, I said it days ago you are better off with Cleverley on than Barry.

All he needed to do was put someone in Gana's place, but know he has to keep changing things week in week out.

It's called fucking clueless the man's a fucking joke end of.

Hollystove how do Americans feel about the Russian hacking of the Presidential campaign, and the fact that Trump tweeted and totally dismissed it and criticised his intelligence agencies for for better words making it up. I always felt that a lot of his supporters were fanatical Americans from the mid states where Russian is a dirty word. If this had been exposed before the vote are people thinking it could have been a different outcome, and is there any challenges to the result legally or otherwise.

I know if Puttin is hacking this, he'd be telling his advisers don't mess with the British there crazy.Next thing will be a Everton recipe forum Saturday Kitchen won't be the same.

If I was good enough to be a professional he's the sort player I'd aspire to be, that's how much I rate him. He's the pivotal player you need to dominate the middle dare I say like a Gerrard or Vierra. If we get him 24M that well spent money.