Palfy

Everton 1-1 Liverpool Baines

Cornish how bizarre to suggest that whether someone is executed or not is a trivial matter that people don't care about, to be fair I don't remember that particular vote and I'm 57, had a look at you profile to see how old you are, but it doesn't show, when I voted I consulted my children as even at my age I considered it was more their future than mine, fortunately for me the 3 of them were going to vote to stay in which was perfect cause that's the way I wanted to vote, but there grandparents all chose to vote out and there all in their late 70s and early 80s, I think there should have been an age restriction on if you were given a vote, because the younger generation voted to stay in by over 70% but that was taken away from them by people who may have died from old age before we even leave. The vote should have been for people of 16-65 and if you're older than that tuff what difference is it really gonna make to them.

To say Koeman was brave because of the 4 changes he made from the Watford game is probably the worst piece of sports journalism I've read this season. 1) People on TT have been saying for weeks that he needed to start with Valencia after his cameo roles when coming off the bench, it didn't take a genius to see that he was turning games around, but Koeman couldn't see it. 2) Jags for Mori is that really inspired management, not really either would have been as capable in that game due to the midfield putting a shift in, and giving the defence some respite, Jags struggles along with the rest of the defence when they are constantly under pressure for most of the game. 3) The inclusion of Barkley, he shouldn't have been out the team in the first place, I don't think there would be many managers who would leave a talent like Barkley out there team, I know we haven't seen him at his best in recent months, but I put a lot of the blame for that with Koeman he has completely taken away his confidence, by firstly criticising him in public, and stifling his freedom to express his talent by playing him in positions were he becomes in affective, and in some ways coaching the creativity out of him, by wanting to change him instead of working with what he's got. 4) Playing McCarthy in probably the only position we know he is capable of playing in, again is that brave management don't think so, play McCarthy in that role and that is what you get from him, stick him in midfield as your playmaker and he becomes a passenger, still cannot believe that Koeman thought he could play that role, that is inept management at its worst, which then created the hysteria we witnessed of people flagging of McCarthy and demanding he goes in January, when really it was Koeman who fucked up by dropping Barkley and expecting McCarthy to play that role, it isn't McCarthy who has taken Barry's position once fit for me he was always going to be an automatic choice, unfortunately it was Gana who has come into the team and played Barry out, love Barry but at his age it was always going to happen sooner rather than later. 5) Playing Lennon instead of Delli or Mirallas was about the only brave or inspired decision he, that did pay off for me, but based on everything else he's done was that more luck than judgment. To summarise Koeman for me is not a brave insightful manager who knows what he's doing far from it, it has taken him months to realise the things that people have been shouting for for a long time. God help us with this man.

Still think he's a prick wouldn't give him any credit what so ever for that win, it was all down to the players who were shown the way by McCarthys dogs of war display the same McCarthy that about 70-80% of people were saying was shite and should be ousted in January.

Unfortunately never saw the game listened on radio and followed TT forum, from what I'm hearing a proper toffee performance, full of fight with a dash of good football. Love this club.

If anyone believes he wasn't involved in the signings of Bolasi, Williams,Gana, Stekkers and the loan of Valencia, then they need a serious reality check, Walsh will look and highlight players but Koeman will have the final say on any business done 100%. He regularly started games with his first 4 signings, which is equivalent to about 38% of the starting 11, so surly we should have expected to see some improvements, but we are seeing quite the opposite, personally that scares the shit out of me.

Stekkers. Holgate. Jags. Mori. Coleman. Oviedo. Delli. Gana. Barkley. Lukaku. Valencia. That's what I would like to see, but what ever he chooses he must be prepared to make substitutions as early as 30 minutes if players aren't doing as told, that might give them the kick up the arse they need.

Who brought in 4ft-6 Gana not clown shoes, yet you use Gana to back up his claim that the team is weak and not up to the physical aspect of the league. That's what I call an own goal do your homework.

Thanks for posting that Luke, brought back happy memories and gave me a lift in these lean times, send it to Koeman then he might grasp what this club and City are about.

For me he's a good average player no better or no worse than we've got, not worth the fee we paid for him due to his age very expensive for a short term fix.

But as stated on match of the day 2 that is not the style of football he played or promoted at Southampton. I think he's looking to make the players scapegoats for his failings, to give him a load of money in January could be the biggest gamble this club has taken in years, I truly believe he will squander it, and we will be looking down the barrel of relegation, with him and his brother laughing all the way to the bank. The shit sisters need to go now we are the worst team in the league at the moment, with our results and general play. He never inherited a team that was this bad he added to it and made it the team it is today, possibly the worst football I have seen an Everton team play since the nineties. We have a duty as the supporters and the people that love this club, to express our discontent of the management to let Moshiri know we want a change, if we don't Moshiri may stand by him for to long out of not wanting to be seen as a he made the mistake of bringing him here. It's time to start calling for dismissal, the way we are playing it shouldn't be suggested it's to early let's make sure it's not to late.

Like the changes Steve well done mate. Everton 1-4 Arsenal Lukaku

How can you possibly equate what's happening at Utd and City with what's happening with us, we've managed only one win in ten games and four draws, and we were lucky to get away with them. Your right one window hasn't fixed it or won't fix it, but there can't be anyone who thought that with the window he's had that he would take us so far backwards that it's going to take someone far more capable than him to get us out of it, that's why he needs to go now to give someone else a fair crack of the whip to unravel the mess he's created.

Thought Delli started well then went missing then come back strongly for last 15 minutes. I also thought Barry worked his balls off in the worst midfield I've seen this season, he must have covered more ground than most and he's the old man of this team, so because of that leading by example and a never die attitude it's Barry for me.

And so would you Bill, but I agree.

That's what you call taking the piss, still very interesting.

Gutted don't know what to say, bar what I've been saying for weeks, the shit sisters have to go sorry for repeating myself feel totally destroyed. Did anyone else notice at the end when he shook hands, he caught the camera on him and had the look of a beaten man who was caught in the headlights and hasn't got a clue what to do.

Marco and your not now

If we got relegated we'd struggle to stay in the championship. The shit sisters have to go GOAL they still have to go

That's cause Gana has been shit and an old man like Barry has been covering his shit

This is a fucking nightmare, new name for the Koeman brothers, the shit sisters.

Where's the fucking pressing

Where's the fucking midfield none existent.

Moyes tactics long ball to big striker, and hopefully someone can feed off his knockdown, not pretty but it's bringing Lukaku more into the game.

great ball Barry