EFC-Paul

On 14/08/2018 at 20:58, markjazzbassist said:

he has played for absolute garbage teams, norwich and soton.  given some actual quality around him i think he would be a fantastic signing.  cheap and english too.

I agree, you only have to look at Oxlade-Chamberlain his goal record is woeful considering he's played in much better sides than Redmond but he looks far more effective at the shite albeit sometimes playing through the middle 

He was a steal at £2m a few seasons ago always thought at the time we missed a trick with him 

In this order 

Huddersfield

Brighton

Cardiff 

12 hours ago, Quinn31 said:

This.

I'm curious as to the source of Usmanov's money - I assume he got all of it during the privatizations of the 90's post USSR like most of the other billionaires. 

He claims that he didn't participate in any of the share auctions of these privatizations, of which many were rigged/bribed and thus billionaires made and politicians paid off. Not sure if I believe him, or even if that's true, that the methods used weren't another form of corruption/theft. It's an inevitable problem in a country privatizing all of its state owned assets with a poor citizenry - the only people with access to resources to acquire are the government, those who are in bed with said government officials, or foreigners with pooled capital. What a mess Russia and that part of the world is. Makes me thankful to live in a much more fair society.

He's made the vast majority of his money since 2007 onwards (£2.7bn to £14bn est) 

The vast majority of billionaire's are corrupt businessmen with their hands in various shady pie's, would people shun Bill Gates's money? A man that has avoided paying mindbogglingly large tax bills via "aid illusion" nope I'm pretty sure we wouldn't you can find "moral" negatives with them all 

I couldn't care less where the money is coming from the man has far to many connections and is far to powerful to be simply thrown out of the UK and everything he's attached to crumble in the process

I still hope it's purely down to him not being a 100% fit 

He'd have caused Wolves problems if he'd have been available yesterday, he'll get his chance from what Marco has been saying 

It's the first time in a very long time we've got some great attacking options and the players to change our system completely if needs be we shouldn't be looking to offload the lad 

3 hours ago, Shukes said:

Ye he ruined my Acca twat haha

He nearly did mine but they got one back late on, Scunthorpe needed one more goal as did Sheff W for £10k from £2

1 hour ago, Matt said:

Which means very little. Any player needs a full season to be judged 

By who's measure? 

It doesn't take a full season Matt to see if a player is going to cut it or if they have the potential to improve 

We've had and so has this league loads of players who've never had anywhere near a full season and have been deemed not upto it so what makes Mo any different? 

Not bashing the lad I just don't see any reason for him to be here collecting a wage for doing nothing over three years for us regardless of injuries etc 

1 hour ago, pete0 said:

Because most people would judge a player over a proper run of games. Rather than a sporadic number of games between injuries. Judge him when he's match fit. 

He's played he's been match fit 

Absolutely shite always finding ways to fuck ourselves over 

All that from a nothing situation

Piss poor touch from Jags but he seemed to get the ball for me? Didn't look a red 

6 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Across how many seasons?

Crock? He's had three seperate injuries with the last one being his cruciate. Give him time. 

Plaudits? Done well enough at boro for them to make an offer and on here whenever he's played he's done more good than he has bad. Give him time to get fit and see what he's capable of. 

Why does it matter how many seasons it's across appearances are appearances!?

Crock yes if we use your logic that's the reason he hasn't played and not lack of ability, he's had three long term injuries as you mentioned so he's either a crock or not good enough, give him time? I'd say being with a club for three years plus is plenty

The Championship! different kettle of fish different team different level, I could pull multiple name's out of my arse to say they've done ok at that level it doesn't mean they should be here    

12 minutes ago, pete0 said:

He was injured for the best part of two seasons and had successful loan spell to regain fitness. 

When he's played he's mostly got plaudits for his performances with a fair amount motm votes per game. 

He's made 37 appearances that's plenty to see the lad isn'ttt upto the standard we want but if you want to look at it from your point of view then the lads a crock

As said multiple manager's have seen plenty of the lad (5/6) and he's never been given a decent run of games for a reason when he's been fit

Plaudits? I've rarely bar on here heard anyone mention how well the lads played or that he's a good player bar the odd Boro game, I'd bet he's had less MOTM nominations than Williams!!

He's 25 clearly isn'tttt in the current manager's plans nor was he in the previous five or six manager's has only two teams from the Championship after him yet he's good enough.... 

4 hours ago, StevO said:

I get that Matt, but if he had anywhere near the talent you and plenty of others think he has, then why has no one else tried to come in for him? It can’t just be that the only people who don’t rate him are football managers. No one from the premier league has tried to take him, even the likes of Cardiff could do with a bit of bite but didn’t go near him. 

Maybe he just isn’t very good and I was right as always haha

Spot on this is how I see it 

Injuries haven't hampered three years here nor have pig headed manager's his ability isn'tt upto scratch its that simple 

I like the lad he seems a good professional etc but he's living off chasing after Messi in one game years ago, he's done nothing of any worth for us 

Scored today played well by the sounds of it as well 

14 hours ago, Matt said:

Glad we’ve kept hold of him if true, my gut instinct is still that there’s a player in there who just needs a break

Three seasons here and now under his 5th (6th if you include Unsworth) and he's never really been a first team regular that speaks volumes to me 

With the players we've brought in and the direction Silva and co seem to be moving the lad will just keep collecting a wage for doing next to nothing, having a little bite to your game doesn't make you a good player 

11 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Just as an aside, if you’re posting a twitter link just press space after the link and it’ll embed it  

You think I've had time for that whilst I've got about ten tabs open TV blasting and two feral kids to contend with

3 minutes ago, nyblue23 said:

Not mad about this at all.

I am as its extra wages on a player who doesn't have a future here 

I wouldn't be surprised to see him and Yannick go out on loan to Boro or another Championship side like Leeds 

Yep all done and dusted won't be announced till later officially as he's flying over by all accounts

3 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

We haven’t actually completed any of them yet, so what exactly aren’t you used to?  

Ey don't piss on my chips

3 minutes ago, aaron said:

is this a normal thing?

Yerry Mina just left the Hospital again. He greeted us smiling. His uncle and representative Jair about his future has said that "let's see, you will see."

Hopefully just left his phone on the side after smashing a Liverpool supporting nurse 

Few reporting this now, what the fucks going on I'm not used to this!

Probably his level tbh, good lad and professional hope it works out for him 

Tell you what if we pull these off sell Besic and Bolasie and I'll be made up 

Brands Silva and the club certainly ain't fucking around 

29 minutes ago, aaron said:

Desperate to join Marco's big blue revolution. Lovely, simply lovely.

Great bit of business of it happens 

Coming off the back of an injury ATM and gives us scope to properly see what he's about, reminds me a bit of Ross but with a brain to match his feet 

Just watched a few clips of him and had a nosey around on line and loads of Barca fans say similar to what Haf did in the other thread he needs games and his confidence building 

Very good player great with the ball good vision etc but he's been battered by the fans who just want to see Messi and co line up week in week out 

In one clip he's bearing down on goal and Suarez is shouting and pointing for him to play it backwards 15/20 yards to Messi which seemed to sum it up for me